My Marble Challenge

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If a marble is created ex nihilo, raising the amount of mass/energy in the universe accordingly, is it wrong to deny it on the basis of not having evidence of same?
I dont understand.

The new marble adds mass.
But there's no evidence of added mass.

???
 
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If it was something which had never been seen to happen before, and it appeared to contravene a law of nature, you would need to come up with good reason why people should believe it. All the physics text books would need rewriting, unless it was a one off miraculous event. (And how would you know that?)
 
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If it was something which had never been seen to happen before, and it appeared to contravene a law of nature, you would need to come up with good reason why people should believe it.
Suppose I'm not around?

Suppose this marble is created ex nihilo on Pluto? (So it wouldn't matter if I was around or not.)
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All the physics text books would need rewriting, unless it was a one off miraculous event. (And how would you know that?)
You don't have to know it.

The OP wants to know if you would be wrong if it did happen, and you say it didn't.
 
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Suppose I'm not around?

Suppose this marble is created ex nihilo on Pluto? (So it wouldn't matter if I was around or not.)You don't have to know it.

The OP wants to know if you would be wrong if it did happen, and you say it didn't.

If nobody had observed it happening, then neither you, nor anybody else, would have any reason to suppose that it happened. It could be that I have an exact double living on a planet a million light years from here. But I have no reason to suppose that is the case. In the absence of any reason to suppose something is either true or untrue, I would shrug my shoulders, and dismiss it as pointless speculation.
 
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In the absence of any reason to suppose something is either true or untrue, I would shrug my shoulders, and dismiss it as pointless speculation.
You would be justified in denying it, but you would be wrong, wouldn't you?
 
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Suppose I'm not around?

Suppose this marble is created ex nihilo on Pluto? (So it wouldn't matter if I was around or not.)You don't have to know it.
But you are still around .. as is evidenced by your supposing that this marble is created ex nihilo on Pluto! How could you possibly do that if you weren't?

Do you not read what you write, and understand, then know what you write?
(Sometimes I just have to wonder about all that ...)
 
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If a marble is created ex nihilo, raising the amount of mass/energy in the universe accordingly, is it wrong to deny it on the basis of not having evidence of same?
If a sphere could be cubic, is it wrong to pay gas oil with chocolate bars?
If it snowed upwards, is it wrong to eat soup with a fork?
If the US would border China, is it wrong to sell prisoners?
If there were no atomic bombs, is it wrong to pick flowers in the spring?
If all laws were written in poetry, is it wrong to ignore basic math?

If a man, created in the image of god, endowed with intelligence, with all humanity's knowledge and 21st century technology at his fingertips uses all these gifts to launch nonsensical challenges, is it wrong to parody him?
 
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If a man, created in the image of god, endowed with intelligence, with all humanity's knowledge and 21st century technology at his fingertips uses all these gifts to launch nonsensical challenges, is it wrong to parody him?
You'd be surprised at how my challenges bring out the ... well ... um ... "best" in answers from intelligent people.

A well thought-out challenge like this one can go for a hundred posts or more.
 
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You'd be surprised at how my challenges bring out the ... well ... um ... "best" in answers from intelligent people.

A well thought-out challenge like this one can go for a hundred posts or more.
100 posts just telling you that you challenge doesn't make sense? Unglorified apes learn faster.
 
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Unless one is omniscient to the amount of mass/energy in the universe before and after an object is created ex nihilo, one cannot scientifically claim evidence of same.

Put another way, we have no evidence God created the Earth, and must rely on His documentation.

All that to say "I have no evidence you just have to take my word for it"? OK.
 
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All that to say "I have no evidence you just have to take my word for it"? OK.
Do you have evidence that God created the earth ex nihilo?

What is it? a plasma cloud? microwave background? ion trail? time crystals? anything? anything at all?
 
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