My Marble Challenge

[AV1611VET]

Thats not how it works.

That's because it's not science -- it's history.

 

[Belk]

Do you have evidence that God created the earth ex nihilo?

What is it? a plasma cloud? microwave background? ion trail? time crystals? anything? anything at all?

Who said anything about "ex nihilo"? Your statement was you have no evidence God created.

 

[AV1611VET]

Who said anything about "ex nihilo"?

Then ditto for ex materia.

Your statement was you have no evidence God created.

That is correct: You have no evidence God created.

God did not use science when He created the universe.

He used a series of miracles over a six-day period that raised the level of mass/energy in the universe from zero to its current level.

Anyone asking for evidence of that doesn't understand science, IMO.

 

[Belk]

Then ditto for ex materia.

Agreed.

That is correct: You have no evidence God created.

God did not use science when He created the universe.

He used a series of miracles over a six-day period that raised the level of mass/energy in the universe from zero to its current level.

Anyone asking for evidence of that doesn't understand science, IMO.

I agree, you have no evidence of this. So I guess this is a successful challenge to show that you have no evidence. You really did not need to go through the elaborate setup though. We were always aware you had no evidence.

 

[Speedwell]

God did not use science when He created the universe.

That doesn't make any sense. No one uses science to do things. Science is an intellectual tool of human creation used to find out how things were done.

 

[AV1611VET]

God did not use science when He created the universe.

No one uses science to do things.

Isn't that what I said? God is no exception in this case.

 

[VirOptimus]

Then I guess you're SOL (short on luck).

Nope.

 

[VirOptimus]

That's because it's not science -- it's history.

No, its a belief.

 

[AV1611VET]

Nope.

Ya ... science is myopic.

 

[AV1611VET]

No, its a belief.

Which came first? the event, or the belief in the event?

 

[VirOptimus]

Which came first? the event, or the belief in the event?

Belief do not require facts or real events.

 

[VirOptimus]

Ya ... science is myopic.

You dont understand even the most basic things about science. Ignorance is not a virtue.

 

[AV1611VET]

You dont understand even the most basic things about science. Ignorance is not a virtue.

Ignorance is only one step down from being well-educated in the myopic.

 

[FrumiousBandersnatch]

Anyone asking for evidence of that doesn't understand science, IMO.

Fortunately, science isn't defined by your opinion.

 

[VirOptimus]

Ignorance is only one step down from being well-educated in the myopic.

And the point you think you are making is... ?

 

[Ophiolite]

And the point you think you are making is... ?

It's actually quite a good sentence. It is grammatically correct. There are no spelling or typing errors. It has a nice rhythym to it. And, this is the important bit, it sounds as if it might mean something profound. That is, seemingly, AV's modus operandi: throw out superficially catchy phrases that will fool some of the audience some of the time. And you and I (and a bunch of others) are not his target audience.

 

[AV1611VET]

Fortunately, science isn't defined by your opinion.

Then test my opinion.

Ask for evidence of something that occurred in Genesis 1, and see if you get it.

If not, perhaps science needs to recognize its limitations?

 

[FrumiousBandersnatch]

It's actually quite a good sentence. It is grammatically correct. There are no spelling or typing errors. It has a nice rhythym to it. And, this is the important bit, it sounds as if it might mean something profound. That is, seemingly, AV's modus operandi: throw out superficially catchy phrases that will fool some of the audience some of the time. And you and I (and a bunch of others) are not his target audience.

It's what is often called a 'deepity' - something that is superficially true or logical, but lacks any interesting substance.

 

[FrumiousBandersnatch]

Then test my opinion.

Ask for evidence of something that occurred in Genesis 1, and see if you get it.

If not, perhaps science needs to recognize its limitations?

Genesis is a myth, one of many creation stories.

Science is well aware of its limitations - that's why the scientific method, the abductive criteria, the provisional nature of scientific theory, etc.

 

[AV1611VET]

And the point you think you are making is... ?

Weather weez smot er dum, weez awl en thuh saim bote.