[MOVED] Denying God's Creation because we prefer the darkness

[Speedwell]

Just another FYI, telling other Christians they aren't Christians is also against the forum rules.

(I also find it odd that creationists immediately assume that "non-literal Bible" = "God is a liar". It's like the idea of metaphors, allegories, etc, go completely over your heads.)

Weren't you the one who pointed out the relatively low education level of your average creationist?

 

[AV1611VET]

Again, not supported by the Bible.

Really?

Are you sure about that?

 

[essentialsaltes]

It just simply observes water on a stove and records that it boiled at 100 degrees Celsius.

I'm surprised you can say such a secular scientific thing without your tongue bursting into flame.

 

[pitabread]

Really?

Are you sure about that?

Indeed I am. And nobody is demonstrating anything to contrary.

 

[AV1611VET]

Weren't you the one who pointed out the relatively low education level of your average creationist?

Did Jesus have a Ph.D.?

 

[Speedwell]

No, you're saying he's not a Christian.

So did you.

My question was,
"Are you saying that a person who accepts the theory of evolution cannot be a Christian?"
Your answer was,
"Absolutely."

 

[Occams Barber]

Then why does It say the law was made for man, and not man for the law?

I have no idea what you're on about.

Believe me, there's coming a time when these laws (gravity, thermodynamics, etc. will take a hike).

The Bible predicts the end of physics?
Can I get a Biblical reference on that? (or did you just make it up?)

OB

 

[pitabread]

No, you're saying he's not a Christian.

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I never said that, you did. When it comes to determining who is or isn't a Christian, I can only accept what people tell me at face-value. If a person self-identifies as a Christian, I accept that.

 

[AV1611VET]

Indeed I am. And nobody is demonstrating anything to contrary.

You mean like here?

Mark 13:19 For in those days shall be affliction, such as was not from the beginning of the creation which God created unto this time, neither shall be.

 

[lifepsyop]

“This is rather as if you imagine a puddle waking up one morning and thinking, 'This is an interesting world I find myself in — an interesting hole I find myself in — fits me rather neatly, doesn't it? In fact it fits me staggeringly well, must have been made to have me in it!' This is such a powerful idea that as the sun rises in the sky and the air heats up and as, gradually, the puddle gets smaller and smaller, frantically hanging on to the notion that everything's going to be alright, because this world was meant to have him in it, was built to have him in it; so the moment he disappears catches him rather by surprise. I think this may be something we need to be on the watch out for.”

― Douglas Adams, The Salmon of Doubt

OB

Comparing humans to puddles.... and this is probably regarded as witty critique?

See? Puddles aren't so special! Why do you think humans are special???

This is the kind of abysmal reasoning that comes from naturalistic philosophy. You begin reducing everything in reality to that same primordial sea of matter and energy, and then, voila, humans are no more special than puddles. It is a collapsing of reason.

Imagine believing that humans are no more special than mud puddles... and then realize such absurdity is considered high conventional wisdom in our age. It's Science!(tm) ...

This is darkness suppressing the truth. We are at war with our Creator. We don't want to live under God's authority.

 

[pitabread]

You mean like here?

Mark 13:19 For in those days shall be affliction, such as was not from the beginning of the creation which God created unto this time, neither shall be.

Okay. And? How does this make Jesus a creationist (keeping in mind the context, we are talking about literal 6 day creation).

 

[pitabread]

Comparing humans to puddles.... and this is probably regarded as witty critique?

See? Puddles aren't so special! Why do you think humans are special???

It's a criticism of the Fine Tuning argument, which you're effectively making in your OP.

Do you understand the Fine Tuning argument?

 

[AV1611VET]

The Bible predicts the end of physics?

A new set is coming.

Can I get a Biblical reference on that?

2 Peter 3:10 But the day of the Lord will come as a thief in the night; in the which the heavens shall pass away with a great noise, and the elements shall melt with fervent heat, the earth also and the works that are therein shall be burned up.

 

[AV1611VET]

Okay. And? How does this make Jesus a creationist (keeping in mind the context, we are talking about literal 6 day creation).

Jesus is a creationist ... and we should be too.

 

[pitabread]

2 Peter 3:10 But the day of the Lord will come as a thief in the night; in the which the heavens shall pass away with a great noise, and the elements shall melt with fervent heat, the earth also and the works that are therein shall be burned up.

That doesn't say anything about new physics.

 

[pitabread]

Jesus was a creationist ... and we should be too.

For which there is no Biblical support, as I pointed out.

If you can find a Bible passage and explain how it supports this claims, then by all means. Otherwise, I'm not going to go in circles with you.

 

[AV1611VET]

That doesn't say anything about new physics.

What do you want? a Bible study on the New Heavens and New Earth, so someone can accuse us of "preaching"?

1. No death, no sorrow.
2. Lions eat straw.
3. Asps and cockatrice's don't bite.
4. Nothing rusts.

Just to name a very few.

 

[AV1611VET]

For which there is no Biblical support, as I pointed out.

If you can find a Bible passage and explain how it supports this claims, then by all means. Otherwise, I'm not going to go in circles with you.

Did you see my Tilt-a-Whirl thread?

 

[pitabread]

What do you want? a Bible study on the New Heavens and New Earth, so someone can accuse us of "preaching"?

I want a well-evidenced discussion to support the claim that Jesus was a 6 day creationist (per what was claimed in this thread).

If you're not up to the task, so be it. Quit wasting our collective time on this.

 

[pitabread]

Did you see my Tilt-a-Whirl thread?

I generally ignore most of your threads, because much like this current discussion, they tend to be a waste of time.