Masks can help you stop the virus

[Sophrosyne]

again we just had a camp spread to 82 children I believe it was it's nonsense.

We shall see in time if it is true or not. The ramifications if it is true will change a lot of things like we could send children back to school and not have to have them wear masks which may be harder on children than adults.

 

[loveofourlord]

We shall see in time if it is true or not. The ramifications if it is true will change a lot of things like we could send children back to school and not have to have them wear masks which may be harder on children than adults.

I would rather we not use lives as guiniepigs.

 

[Sophrosyne]

I would rather we not use lives as guiniepigs.

There is two choices in that statement
1)Do nothing and let people live or die on their own
2)Do things what you are told because many in charge are just following the leaders who have shown to be wrong too often to trust that they know what they are doing. They have been using people as lab rats watching numbers to determine when to clamp down on people while their health departments require hospitals to use the best masks and equipment they don't care what we use as long as we cover our face with some sort of cloth thingy that satisfies them. Instead of mandating and supplying the most effective masks possible they tell us to jump in a maze of options and "find" one just like they do with lab rats. Some who advocate masks as the ultimate solution for now would say that choosing the best mask instead of a cheap one is more "safe" and "caring" while those in charge are just going to experiment on us and see how crappy masks protect people and maybe if the numbers don't go their way and everyone is wearing something they will have to them think maybe this experiment failed and we need to give them better masks as crappy ones aren't working.

 

[loveofourlord]

There is two choices in that statement
1)Do nothing and let people live or die on their own
2)Do things what you are told because many in charge are just following the leaders who have shown to be wrong too often to trust that they know what they are doing. They have been using people as lab rats watching numbers to determine when to clamp down on people while their health departments require hospitals to use the best masks and equipment they don't care what we use as long as we cover our face with some sort of cloth thingy that satisfies them. Instead of mandating and supplying the most effective masks possible they tell us to jump in a maze of options and "find" one just like they do with lab rats. Some who advocate masks as the ultimate solution for now would say that choosing the best mask instead of a cheap one is more "safe" and "caring" while those in charge are just going to experiment on us and see how crappy masks protect people and maybe if the numbers don't go their way and everyone is wearing something they will have to them think maybe this experiment failed and we need to give them better masks as crappy ones aren't working.

the do nothing approach is failing miserably, florida just had the worst day PERIOD in the united states today on a sunday of 15k cases. Keeping everything open and letting people get sick is not working.

 

[ZNP]

I think they don't know for sure but some data seems to suggest that younger children don't spread it enough to be concerned.
Coronavirus unlikely to be spread by children, research suggests – Orange County Register

I know a way we could run an experiment to find out. Let's open up the schools in September and see if that causes a huge spike in those who contract the disease.

 

[ZNP]

the do nothing approach is failing miserably, florida just had the worst day PERIOD in the united states today on a sunday of 15k cases. Keeping everything open and letting people get sick is not working.

That depends on what your definition of "working" is.

 

[Sophrosyne]

I know a way we could run an experiment to find out. Let's open up the schools in September and see if that causes a huge spike in those who contract the disease.

Some places ARE opening up schools I have heard so we shall see. I bet if there isn't a huge disaster that those who scoffed at the idea will still get their microscope out and proclaim that one child died from the virus etc..

 

[loveofourlord]

Some places ARE opening up schools I have heard so we shall see. I bet if there isn't a huge disaster that those who scoffed at the idea will still get their microscope out and proclaim that one child died from the virus etc..

Hindsight doesn't make doing dumb things smart, or smart ideas bad. This reminds me of the people that complained about the shutdown after seeing how bad it got in italy and new york.

 

[Archivist]

Some places ARE opening up schools I have heard so we shall see. I bet if there isn't a huge disaster that those who scoffed at the idea will still get their microscope out and proclaim that one child died from the virus etc..

Our governor has fortunately postponed the opening of schools to September.

 

[loveofourlord]

Our governor has fortunately postponed the opening of schools to September.

which one?

 

[Sophrosyne]

the do nothing approach is failing miserably, florida just had the worst day PERIOD in the united states today on a sunday of 15k cases. Keeping everything open and letting people get sick is not working.

Doing nothing too long is why we are seeing spikes now.. too much nothing for the young to do means they will resort to try more dangerous and destructive things.

 

[Sophrosyne]

Our governor has fortunately postponed the opening of schools to September.

I don't think our schools will open either, I'm betting probably 45 of the states probably won't have school this winter semester and unless there is a "cure" maybe 1 or 2 will open. The one thing that could change their minds is if the article I posted has some merit to it.

 

[loveofourlord]

Doing nothing too long is why we are seeing spikes now.. too much nothing for the young to do means they will resort to try more dangerous and destructive things.

yeah all those kids fault and not the adults too childish to do even the modicum of effort because, "Mahhh rights."

 

[Archivist]

which one?

West Virginia. Republican governor, Republican legislature.

 

[Sophrosyne]

yeah all those kids fault and not the adults too childish to do even the modicum of effort because, "Mahhh rights."

No it is the "experts" fault if it turns out kids aren't the problem with transmission. We could have put in safety measures to protect them a lot easier than what is needed for adults because essentially you have a very small number of "infectors" to deal with vs regular population everyone is presumed to be an "infector" hence mandatory masking.

 

[JacksBratt]

yeah but 10k a day is already overhwelming 4 states, and less then that is overwhelming a few others, plus herd immunity may not happen so your banking the economy and a ton of lives on something that may not work.

I agree. Herd immunity may never happen if any antibodies formed only last 30 days to three months.... Same with a vaccine... useless.

 

[loveofourlord]

No it is the "experts" fault if it turns out kids aren't the problem with transmission. We could have put in safety measures to protect them a lot easier than what is needed for adults because essentially you have a very small number of "infectors" to deal with vs regular population everyone is presumed to be an "infector" hence mandatory masking.

You keep repeating that, but the fact that there has been multiple outbreaks in kids catching covid thats bunk.

 

[BABerean2]

Thanks to the Operation Warp Speed vaccine acceleration program, Fauci said he expects the US will have "hundreds of millions of doses" of the vaccine ready to deploy by early 2021. However, if a significant percentage of Americans refuse a coronavirus vaccine, the US might not reach the critical level of herd immunity needed to end the pandemic, he said during an interview posted on YouTube on June 28.

Coronavirus vaccine: Are we close to finding one? Here's what's happening

In South Korea, more than 160 people tested positive again after they had recovered from COVID-19. In China, 5%-10% of people tested positive again after they'd recovered, according to news reports. It's not clear whether:

• These people got infected again
• The virus reactivated in their bodies after being quiet for a while, or
• The test results were flawed

COVID-19: Herd Immunity and Reinfection

Months into the pandemic, the scientific community’s understanding of Covid-19, the illness caused by the new coronavirus, is rapidly evolving. New reports of patients testing positive, or appearing to suffer symptoms months after initial diagnosis, continues to generate concern that people who have had Covid-19 are getting infected anew.

Can You Catch Covid-19 Twice?

In conclusion, we are going to have a vaccine prepared in record time, probably by the beginning of 2021. By that time, best case scenario, even pie in the sky scenario, would have 80 million people worldwide who have been infected. Yes, it does mutate slower, but after only 8 million people had been infected there were already more than 14 strains
and one of those strains was more contagious than the others. Since random mutations are a simple numbers game we can expect by the time there is a vaccine that we'll have 140 strains and 10 that are especially virulent.

2nd, there is no way that 8 billion people will be given the vaccine in 2021, in fact it is doubtful that we would give the vaccine to more than 1 billion people in 2021. Therefore this virus will continue to mutate throughout 2021 and those strains that the inoculation does not protect you from will be the most successful in countries that do have the vaccine.

Dr. Rand Paul tested positive, and went home to quarantine in his basement, but never had any symptoms.

I suspect the testing is flawed.
Some cold viruses are Corona viruses.

A virus that grows within cells inside the lungs, and kills lung tissue is going to produce symptoms of disease.

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[ZNP]

Some places ARE opening up schools I have heard so we shall see. I bet if there isn't a huge disaster that those who scoffed at the idea will still get their microscope out and proclaim that one child died from the virus etc..

My reading of the prophets says that opening the schools will cause the palace to collapse. So I'll revisit this post in November to see which of us is right.

 

[BABerean2]

My reading of the prophets says that opening the schools will cause the palace to collapse. So I'll revisit this post in November to see which of us is right.

Some schools in Europe never closed.

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