Masks can help you stop the virus

[ZNP]

You don’t have to be at risk to get the virus. I have a friend who is a police officer—someone in very good health—who got it despite being in good health and not having any of the risk factors.

I had it, and I don't have any of the risk factors.

 

[ZNP]

I'm not talking about being "at risk" in the sense of me not getting it at all, I'm saying I'm at lower risk both getting it and passing it on to someone who would be likely to need hospitalization.
Basically it is unlikely anyone around me would die if I got infected and infected them.

I wasn't hospitalized, still it took me a month before I could walk around the block and after 3 months I am still not back to 100%.

 

[Sophrosyne]

I wasn't hospitalized, still it took me a month before I could walk around the block and after 3 months I am still not back to 100%.

I worked with 2 guys about 10 years ago that got this flu that they were sick for a month and still not back to normal for weeks after that. I've heard that some get hit hard by this virus. I seem to be very resistant to most bugs as I have gotten regular colds the cough part that goes on but I tend to get over it faster than most and there have been plenty of places I've worked where I was the only one who had perfect attendance. I haven't had the flu for over 25 years now never had any vaccines either to protect me and been around people who got it that had been vaccinated must have been the wrong strain that they were "protected" from I guess.

 

[BABerean2]

wow nice lying there really helps your case.

Really? What did CBS News say below?

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[loveofourlord]

Really? What did CBS News say below?

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can't see the linnk doesn't show in my country, and it's well known it wasn't from wuhan lab.

 

[JacksBratt]

I am just relating what I read in another debate somewhere. If you can infect yourself anywhere by rubbing it stands to reason that someone sneezing or coughing and get the virus on that area of your body it could become infected. Now I am clueless about the chance of infection as I am also clueless about the chance of infections in the mask vs non-mask vs distancing/non distancing vs combined etc. and probabilities of infection.
There is an overwhelmingly absence of factual information about this virus and transmission rates and masks and distancing so it is quite possible some genius that already is proven wrong about this mess overlooked the eye bit.

I think you are not alone... I don't think anyone knows the truth about this virus.. and our medical experts and politicians and leaders.... haven't kept any story straight...

So.... keep your distance.... wash your hands often... if your sick, wear a mask. Advice at the start... still good advice.

 

[A_Thinker]

Corona virus is not a new virus. Many of the common cold viruses are Corona viruses. These RNA viruses often mutate rapidly.

COVID-19 is a new strain of the Corona virus.

COVID-19 appears to have been accidentally released from the Wuhan lab.

COVID 19 is a new virus which is a member of the Corona virus family.

Some Coronaviruses mutate rapidly ... some not so much.

The scientific consensus is that the virus was of natural, not artificial origin.

 

[A_Thinker]

Anyway I've said enough to dispel the OP's notion that by wearing masks we can "stop" this virus.

The goal is to slow the spread of the virus ... so that we have time to prepare a viable vaccine.

It will be the vaccine that will stop the virus, but it's better if the virus spreads at a few hundred new cases per day (as it is now currently spreading in most European countries) ... than at 50,000+ per day, as it is spreading in the US currently.

 

[Sophrosyne]

I think you are not alone... I don't think anyone knows the truth about this virus.. and our medical experts and politicians and leaders.... haven't kept any story straight...

So.... keep your distance.... wash your hands often... if your sick, wear a mask. Advice at the start... still good advice.

As I work construction wearing gloves all day I am used to not directly touching my face with my hands I use my sleeves or shoulders as too often my gloves are soaking wet or dirty or have sand and grit and even metal splinters in the fingers. I also wear reading glasses when I am shopping so the eye infection but is probably negated if it does happen and I distance and avoid people that have obvious colds a little more and when I cough I cought through my nose as when I work in the winter coughing into a mask saturates it more with humidity making it more wet and harder to breathe through. When you are wearing glasses masks too often fog up on you and blind you when it is cooler like indoors.

 

[Sophrosyne]

The goal is to slow the spread of the virus ... so that we have time to prepare a viable vaccine.

It will be the vaccine that will stop the virus, but it's better if the virus spreads at a few hundred new cases per day (as it is now currently spreading in most European countries) ... than at 50,000+ per day, as it is spreading in the US currently.

From what I've been hearing some say a vaccine may only work temporarily. I don't believe that a few hundred a day is manageable with as large of a population the US has probably 10k cases would be a more realistic goal but that would be only 200 per state..... which is a pretty small amount.

 

[Sophrosyne]

60,000 new cases is only 0.018% of the population it would take close to 2 months to equal 1% of the population at that rate I believe and to reach herd immunity of at least 60% would take 10 years.

 

[loveofourlord]

60,000 new cases is only 0.018% of the population it would take close to 2 months to equal 1% of the population at that rate I believe and to reach herd immunity of at least 60% would take 10 years.

yeah but 10k a day is already overhwelming 4 states, and less then that is overwhelming a few others, plus herd immunity may not happen so your banking the economy and a ton of lives on something that may not work.

 

[Sophrosyne]

yeah but 10k a day is already overhwelming 4 states, and less then that is overwhelming a few others, plus herd immunity may not happen so your banking the economy and a ton of lives on something that may not work.

Umm...... are you sure about that? last I heard we spiked around 60k for a day a huge amount more than 10k.
The thing is herd immunity is a valid plan, one that if no vaccine is possible we may have to resort to. I think if we have to live this type of life sooner or later the same mindset that started all the BLM protests will up the ante 100 times over this virus maskadistance dance. It has a horrible beat and isn't even in the top 300 million favorite hits.

 

[BABerean2]

It will be the vaccine that will stop the virus, but it's better if the virus spreads at a few hundred new cases per day (as it is now currently spreading in most European countries) ... than at 50,000+ per day, as it is spreading in the US currently.

No vaccine will stop COVID-19, just as the seasonal Flu virus vaccine has not stopped the seasonal flu.

What eventually happened to the 1918 Spanish Flu, which killed Donald Trump's grandfather?
Was it stopped by a vaccine?

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[loveofourlord]

Umm...... are you sure about that? last I heard we spiked around 60k for a day a huge amount more than 10k.
The thing is herd immunity is a valid plan, one that if no vaccine is possible we may have to resort to. I think if we have to live this type of life sooner or later the same mindset that started all the BLM protests will up the ante 100 times over this virus maskadistance dance. It has a horrible beat and isn't even in the top 300 million favorite hits.

well I meant 10k per state, florida, texas, california are all hovering around 10k, with georgia, arizona and a few others around 5k but already having trouble.

 

[A_Thinker]

I think if we have to live this type of life sooner or later the same mindset that started all the BLM protests will up the ante 100 times over this virus maskadistance dance.

Wearing a mask and distancing to protect yourself, your family, and your neighbors is that bothersome to you ?

I guess that I'm glad you don't live around me ...

 

[A_Thinker]

No vaccine will stop COVID-19, just as the seasonal Flu virus vaccine has not stopped the seasonal flu.

What eventually happened to the 1918 Spanish Flu, which killed Donald Trump's grandfather?
Was it stopped by a vaccine?

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Vaccines have stopped many viral diseases in the past ...

Smallpox
polio
measles
mumps
rubella
rabies

Vaccines are more effective with relatively slowly mutating viruses, of which the COVID virus appears to be ...

 

[BABerean2]

Vaccines have stopped many viral diseases in the past ...

Smallpox
polio
measles
mumps
rubella
rabies

Vaccines are more effective with relatively slowly mutating viruses, of which the COVID virus appears to be ...

The raccoon who bit my neighbor a few years ago must not have gotten the word that rabies had been stopped.

The only virus on your list that has been eradicated is Smallpox.

All viruses are not the same.

RNA viruses, like COVID-19, mutate more rapidly and are therefore harder to deal with.

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[Archivist]

The raccoon who bit my neighbor a few years ago must not have gotten the word that rabies had been stopped.

The only virus on your list that has been eradicated is Smallpox.

All viruses are not the same.

RNA viruses, like COVID-19, mutate more rapidly and are therefore harder to deal with.

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Did your neighbor get the rabies vaccine before he was bit?

 

[BABerean2]

Did your neighbor get the rabies vaccine before he was bit?

She did not, and neither did the raccoon.

How many people who get the seasonal flu vaccine still get the flu?


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