Madison Avenue business center evicts New York City lawyer: disrepute re. his tirades about Spanish

[faroukfarouk]

 

[faroukfarouk]

If this (former) Madison Avenue NYC lawyer now knows what is in his best interests, it would probably be to resign proactively from the NY Bar, and if he eventually wants to apply to practise law again, apply eventually while furnishing certificates showing he has satisfactorily completed courses in multicultural awareness and anger management, preferably also with multiple references from prominent members of the Spanish-speaking community from whom he will have credibly maintained good relations over a significant period.

 

[Chesterton]

If this (former) Madison Avenue NYC lawyer now knows what is in his best interests,...

Yeah, if he knows what good for him...

Even if I disagree with everything he said, he should still have the right to say it without being punished to faroukfarouk's satisfaction, and forced to hold faroukfarouk's opinion, and being re-educated by multi-anger-culture-management whatever.

 

[faroukfarouk]

Yeah, if he knows what good for him...

Even if I disagree with everything he said, he should still have the right to say it without being punished to faroukfarouk's satisfaction, and forced to hold faroukfarouk's opinion, and being re-educated by multi-anger-culture-management whatever.

Why would his clients paying Madison Avenue fees want him to handle their affairs when they can watch his anti-Spanish rants and threats on CNN? He may not have broken the law. (I don't know.)

But there is such a thing as unprofessional behavior and bringing a business and a profession into disprepute; any formal investigation which carefully studied the matter with the testimony of multiple witnesses would probably find that he had done so.

(My opinions are neither here nor there.)

 

[Chesterton]

Why would his clients paying Madison Avenue fees want him to handle their affairs when they can watch his anti-Spanish rants and threats on CNN? He may not have broken the law. (I don't know.)

Any number of reasons, none of which concern you or me.

But there is such a thing as unprofessional behavior and bringing a business and a profession into disprepute; any formal investigation which carefully studied the matter with the testimony of multiple witnesses would probably find that he had done so.

He was not practicing his profession at the time. He was at a restaurant.

(My opinions are neither here nor there.)

They're here. I see them right up above.

 

[faroukfarouk]

Any number of reasons, none of which concern you or me.

He was not practicing his profession at the time. He was at a restaurant.

They're here. I see them right up above.

Most professional associations do have a clause whereby the member is expected not to bring the profession into disrepute by his or her behavior. (I'm sure the Chio State Bar is similar in this respect.)

It's hard to think that many clients and would be clients of this Madison Avenue lawyer would not have questions in their mind as to whether this had indeed happened. He is entitled to a hearing before a disciplinary panel (it would probably be in his best interests to resign proactively, though).

 

[dzheremi]

See, and here I thought that this guy had somehow won the racism lottery after I heard about how a mariachi band and a taco truck were sent to his office! I guess he won't be there to enjoy them, though. Too bad.

 

[faroukfarouk]

The fact is that this kind of brashness and arrogance - to which the Hispanic community is strongly objecting in this case - is mere the tip of the proverbial iceberg.

 

[brinny]

The video did not give very specific information. What did he say, exactly, and what laws did he break?

 

[faroukfarouk]

The video did not give very specific information. What did he say, exactly, and what laws did he break?

There is another thread with the relevant video of his objectionable tirade.

The point of this thread is - I guess - that he may not have broken any laws but there is also such a thing as bringing a profession into disrepute.

 

[rambot]

Put this in the "uppance came" file. You harrass a group of individuals, you may get harrassed back.

 

[brinny]

There is another thread with the relevant video of his objectionable tirade.

The point of this thread is - I guess - that he may not have broken any laws but there is also such a thing as bringing a profession into disrepute.

What did he say that was "racist"? And if he broke no laws, why would he be dis-barred?

 

[faroukfarouk]

What did he say that was "racist"? And if he broke no laws, why would he be dis-barred?

He objected to employees in a restaurant speaking to each other in Spanish and to them speaking Spanish to Spanish speaking customers (none of his business). He ranted and ranted (he was asked to leave the restaurant.) He threatened to expose the Spanish speakers to the authorities while he had no knowledge of whether the people involved were lawbreakers, with the sole evidence for his lawbreaking insinuation being that they spoke Spanish, as do also millions of Americans.

He may have broken no laws. But there is such a thing as bringing one's profession into disrepute. Clients paying Madison Avenue lawyers fees don't usually wish to see their lawyer behaving so disreputably on CNN. The term 'racist' was not mine, but I'm guessing its seen here in an ethnolinguistic context.

 

[faroukfarouk]

Put this in the "uppance came" file. You harrass a group of individuals, you may get harrassed back.

Make a yo-yo go 'yo', it may 'yo' back.

Usually Madison Avenue lawyers can figure this out, but...

 

[brinny]

He objected to employees in a restaurant speaking to each other in Spanish and to them speaking Spanish to Spanish speaking customers (none of his business). He ranted and ranted (he was asked to leave the restaurant.) He threatened to expose the Spanish speakers to the authorities while he had no knowledge of whether the people involved were lawbreakers, with the sole evidence for his lawbreaking insinuation being that they spoke Spanish, as do also millions of Americans.

He may have broken no laws. But there is such a thing as bringing one's profession into disrepute. Clients paying Madison Avenue lawyers fees don't usually wish to see their lawyer behaving so disreputably on CNN. The term 'racist' was not mine, but I'm guessing its seen here in an ethnolinguistic context.

He was a patron there in the restaurant?

Perhaps if you posted the other video you mentioned, it might provide some clarity.

 

[TLK Valentine]

Yeah, if he knows what good for him...

Even if I disagree with everything he said, he should still have the right to say it without being punished to faroukfarouk's satisfaction, and forced to hold faroukfarouk's opinion, and being re-educated by multi-anger-culture-management whatever.

How about by his bosses for failing to do the job they hired him for -- and in fact, doing the exact opposite of what they hired him for?

 

[faroukfarouk]

He was a patron there in the restaurant?

Perhaps if you posted the other video you mentioned, it might provide some clarity.

It's on another thread; I don't think I'm suppose to promote other threads; I've sent it to you. Blessings.

 

[brinny]

It's on another thread; I don't think I'm suppose to promote other threads; I've sent it to you. Blessings.

"Promote" Other threads?

 

[Ringo84]

To head off the hand wringing about "freeze peach": the First Amendment does not protect you from consequences of your speech.

There....saved the thread pages and pages of crocodile tears over a racist getting dumped for making his law firm look bad.
Ringo

 

[trunks2k]

His rant at the restaurant wasn't the first time he did something like that. There's a video of him from a year or so ago where he is berating a person who bumped into him; calling him a dirty foreigner (the guy in question was from Massachusetts). It seems he also once got arrested at a baseball game for being drunk and disorderly. He allegedly threatened to beat up the arresting officer.