Is there separate heavens?

[Principium]

All of the earth is now under the weight of sin and satan. That is why evil and bad thing now exist.

Originally God creation was not like it is now and eventually God will return the creation back to its original sinless condition.

I understand, but wouldn`t this take million of years perhap? If so, what is god solution for an ending existance here on earth like people say it`s gonna happen, I mean when the sun explodes or something like people say it`s gonna happen

 

[d taylor]

John said that if you dont have love for your brothers and sisters in Christ then you simply don't know God.

I would call having so much hatred for your fellow believers that you would prefer not to go to heaven if other people would be there a possible sign/indication of what John was speaking of. (aka not having a deep knowledge of God)

In which case, some prayer might be in order to receive a heart with the capacity to love..

Where is said that not loving a person is then hating a person. Lets say I do not love you but i also do not hate you.

If you want to make a case that love is required to receive eternal life. Then that would have to be made from the Gospel of John.
Being that the Gospel of John is the only book of the Bible written specifically to tell people how to have life (eternal life).

 

[Hazelelponi]

Where is said that not loving a person is then hating a person. Lets say I do not love you but i also do not hate you.

If you want to make a case that love is required to receive eternal life. Then that would have to be made from the Gospel of John.
Being that the Gospel of John is the only book of the Bible written specifically to tell people how to have life (eternal life).

I quoted one of the verses already which says that. Anyway, I'm just trying to share a Biblical teaching and not insult anyone, so I'm out of the conversation... I'm certainly not going to argue when I've already quoted one verse.

 

[d taylor]

I understand, but wouldn`t this take million of years perhap? If so, what is god solution for an ending existance here on earth like people say it`s gonna happen, I mean when the sun explodes or something like people say it`s gonna happen

No this current earth will be destroyed by fire, and then the new one will be created. I am sure quite fast.

A lot of questions like you are asking is not really answered in detail in the Bible so really we do not know the full picture.

 

[Principium]

Where is said that not loving a person is then hating a person. Lets say I do not love you but i also do not hate you.

If you want to make a case that love is required to receive eternal life. Then that would have to be made from the Gospel of John.
Being that the Gospel of John is the only book of the Bible written specifically to tell people how to have life (eternal life).

Yes I understand what you`re saying to him because I often find myself not wanting to be around people anymore because they act sexual, swears alot and so forth I`m still not that sure about it now ether, but I guess I have to show love sort of to find it in my to do so still after all

 

[d taylor]

I quoted one of the verses already which says that. Anyway, I'm just trying to share a Biblical teaching and not insult anyone, so I'm out of the conversation... I'm certainly not going to argue when I've already quoted one verse.

Ok, so one verse is more important than a whole Bible book.

 

[Principium]

No this current earth will be destroyed by fire, and then the new one will be created. I am sure quite fast.

A lot of questions like you are asking is not really answered in detail in the Bible so really we do not know the full picture.

Okay, I understand a new planet will be created, kinda exciting though really, a brand new planet to explore

 

[d taylor]

Yes I understand what you`re saying to him because I often find myself not wanting to be around people anymore because they act sexual, swears alot and so forth I`m still not that sure about it now ether, but I guess I have to show love sort of to find it in my to do so still after all

I am not a people person myself, but i do not hate people. I do get mad at people, but getting mad at someone is not hating them.

 

[Principium]

I am not a people person myself, but i do not hate people. I do get mad at people, but getting mad at someone is not hating them.

I see, yes I agree

 

[d taylor]

Okay, I understand a new planet will be created, kinda exciting though really, a brand new planet to explore

No new planet, a new earth.

If you have not read my signature below, I am a biblical flat earther

 

[Principium]

No new planet, a new earth.

If you have not read my signature below, I am a biblical flat earther

You believe the planet is flat?

 

[d taylor]

I see, yes I agree

And i will add i do not get mad at people with out a cause.
Like a month ago a person next door was having trees cut down and the tree service cut down one of my trees.
I was mad for sure but i did not hate that person.

 

[Principium]

And i will add i do not get mad at people with out a cause.
Like a month ago a person next door was having trees cut down and the tree service cut down one of my trees.
I was mad for sure but i did not hate that person.

Yes, alot of things happen in this world which could make one angry but we still go on

 

[d taylor]

You believe the planet is flat?

I believe Gods creation is flat and stationary. Heaven (where we have been talking about) is right above our heads above the blue. God is really not far away and is actually looking down on His creation from above.

 

[Principium]

I believe Gods creation is flat and stationary. Heaven (where we have been talking about) is right above our heads above the blue. God is really not far away and is actually looking down on His creation from above.

But I mean ... since the planet is spinning around like everything else, wouldn`t it create a round planet in the end then because of the gravity?

 

[Albion]

Yes, but this generation of people today they talk alot sexually and swears alot and so forth, how can god stop they from doing it in heaven?

First, if they ARE in heaven, they will not want to do it. But also, never doubt that God can transform people.

 

[Principium]

First, if they ARE in heaven, they will not want to do it. But also, never doubt that God can transform people.

Okay, I will trust it

 

[d taylor]

But I mean ... since the planet is spinning around like everything else, wouldn`t it create a round planet in the end then because of the gravity?

Well that is what science has lead everyone to believe is our earth.

But that is not the earth described in the Bible.
The earth is not moving nothing is moving but the sun, moon and stars

 

[Principium]

Well that is what science has lead everyone to believe is our earth.

But that is not the earth described in the Bible.
The earth is not moving nothing is moving but the sun, moon and stars

But again ... how is water held in place if it had egdes?

 

[Hazelelponi]

Ok, so one verse is more important than a whole Bible book.

Again, I really don't care to needlessly argue, but there is a clear difference between a requirement for salvation and a sign or indication of a heart that's been saved.

Love is in the sign of a heart that's been saved and knows God category.