Is the fundamental gap between creationists and non-creationists...

[AV1611VET]

I believe in Jesus, not the Bible.

Have you read It?

 

[Bungle_Bear]

There is historical data that the Gospel is accurate.

I bet you can't provide any.

There is also empirical evidence that confirms intelligent design

I bet you can't provide any.

Since it had a beginning it therefore had a cause and that cause had to be uncaused at some point in regression.

Assertions are not evidence.

 

[AV1611VET]

Indeed. It's pretty cool that we name such an important celebration after Eostre.

In spite of the Bible, or with respect to It?

Acts 12:4c ... intending after Easter to bring him forth to the people.

 

[Speedwell]

Have you read It?

Of course. St. Paul explained the reason very clearly. 2 Timothy 3:16.

 

[Bungle_Bear]

In spite of the Bible, or with respect to It?

Acts 12:4c ... intending after Easter to bring him forth to the people.

In spite of it. Spring festivals existed long before Easter. Interesting that the English speaking world chose to celebrate a pagan goddess, don't you think?

 

[AV1611VET]

In spite of it.

Thanks for an honest answer.

Spring festivals existed long before Easter.

If that's true ... and I believe it is ... then Easter is in spite of those spring festivals, not with respect to them.

Interesting that the English speaking world chose to celebrate a pagan goddess, don't you think?

You'll find much of "the English speaking world" choosing to celebrate anything, so long as it's not in the Bible.

 

[Bungle_Bear]

You'll find much of "the English speaking world" choosing to celebrate anything, so long as it's not in the Bible.

Lol. You have no real comeback, do you? Does it hurt that the most important celebration in the Christian calendar is named after a pagan goddess?

 

[AV1611VET]

Does it hurt that the most important celebration in the Christian calendar is named after a pagan goddess?

About as much as it "hurts" that Thursday is named after Thor.

And "Easter" is God's choice of wording; not man's.

Easter is to Eostre, as Paul is to Phil.

In fact, if I remember correctly ... (I'm too lazy right now to look it up) ... Wrong's Concordance has that word as "paschal," or some such bologna.

 

[renniks]

Endless anything is a terrifying proposition.

Of course, if you no longer feel anything or think for yourself, that's a different proposition. But that's not what is being offered.

Why? You desire to cease existing? You might want to consider therapy for that.

 

[essentialsaltes]

... a disagreement over basic reality?

In many cases yes. Science takes the stance that you can take chunks of reality (called evidence) and study them and make certain inferences.

If you are a "The Bible said it, that settles it" type creationist, chunks of reality have no evidentiary value. Strangely enough, their 'reality' is not tied to reality.

 

[Bungle_Bear]

And "Easter" is God's choice of wording; not man's.

Easter is an English name, the choice of Anglo-Saxon Christians. They were not God.

Easter is to Eostre, as Paul is to Phil.

Huh? Paul is of Latin derivation meaning "small". Phil is from Greek "horse lover". What are you talking about?

In fact, if I remember correctly ... (I'm too lazy right now to look it up) ... Wrong's Concordance has that word as "paschal," or some such bologna.

Most languages use a word derived from "pascha", Latin for the Passover feast. Makes perfect sense. Even English uses the adjective paschal.

 

[AV1611VET]

Most languages use a word derived from "pascha", Latin for the Passover feast. Makes perfect sense.

Only in a classroom.

The Christians weren't celebrating the Passover ... that ended at the Cross.

Nor were the Christians celebrating some Feast of Ishtar ... that is idolatry.

They were celebrating a newly-created holiday that God called "Easter."

Acts 12:4 And when he had apprehended him, he put him in prison, and delivered him to four quaternions of soldiers to keep him; intending after Easter to bring him forth to the people.

I'm sure the Passover was in progress at the time; and I'm sure the Feast of Ishtar was in progress at the time; but Herod was going to kill Peter after their new holiday: Easter.

 

[Bungle_Bear]

Why? You desire to cease existing? You might want to consider therapy for that.

Personally offensive posts are not helpful. If you cannot address the point being made you're better off saying nothing.

 

[Bungle_Bear]

Only in a classroom.

The Christians weren't celebrating the Passover ... that ended at the Cross.

Nor were the Christians celebrating some Feast of Ishtar ... that is idolatry.

They were celebrating a newly-created holiday that God called "Easter."

Acts 12:4 And when he had apprehended him, he put him in prison, and delivered him to four quaternions of soldiers to keep him; intending after Easter to bring him forth to the people.

I'm sure the Passover was in progress at the time; and I'm sure the Feast of Ishtar was in progress at the time; but Herod was going to kill Peter after their new holiday: Easter.

It really bothers you that the English word "Easter" comes from a pagan goddess, doesn't it?

 

[SelfSim]

'Endless joy' is not a testable state .. It can't be objectively real then.
Why target the pursuit of an unreal state of being?

 

[SelfSim]

'Endless joy' is not a testable state .. It can't be objectively real then.
Why target the pursuit of an unreal state of being?

I guess its an imaginary state then(?)
Kinda like the square root of (-1) is an imaginary number ..

 

[AV1611VET]

It really bothers you that the English word "Easter" comes from a pagan goddess, doesn't it?

Next you'll try to convince me that a nor'easter is a storm emanating from the same deity?

 

[Bungle_Bear]

Next you'll try to convince me that a nor'easter is a storm emanating from the same deity?

A simple "yes" would have sufficed.

Funny, I didn't realise you were so insecure in your religion.

 

[AV1611VET]

Funny, I didn't realise you were so insecure in your religion.

I didn't realize you won't accept coined words.

 

[essentialsaltes]

As the Venerable Bede explained it...