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Featured If the United States is Babylon...

Discussion in 'Eschatology - Endtimes & Prophecy Forum' started by akaDaScribe, Apr 19, 2018.

  1. akaDaScribe

    akaDaScribe Well-Known Member Supporter

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    And God says come out of her my people...
    Where the heck could we go?
     
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  2. Jenniferdiana

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    It means dont be like her...
     
  3. seventysevens

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    Abandon the false church and seek where true Jesus is taught and followed
     
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  4. HereIStand

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    I agree with @Jenniferdiana. Babylon (in the case of prophesy) doesn't refer to a literal place. It refers to the secular system set against the church.
     
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  5. TribulationSigns

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    Babylon the Great is NOT the United States of America or ANY political nations.
     
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  6. football5680

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    Canada?
     
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  7. akaDaScribe

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    15And he saith unto me, The waters which thou sawest, where the whore sitteth, are peoples, and multitudes, and nations, and tongues. 16And the ten horns which thou sawest upon the beast, these shall hate the whore, and shall make her desolate and naked, and shall eat her flesh, and burn her with fire. 17For God hath put in their hearts to fulfil his will, and to agree, and give their kingdom unto the beast, until the words of God shall be fulfilled. 18And the woman which thou sawest is that great city, which reigneth over the kings of the earth.

    9And the kings of the earth, who have committed fornication and lived deliciously with her, shall bewail her, and lament for her, when they shall see the smoke of her burning, 10Standing afar off for the fear of her torment, saying, Alas, alas, that great city Babylon, that mighty city! for in one hour is thy judgment come.

    18And the woman which thou sawest is that great city, which reigneth over the kings of the earth.

    This kind of sounds like a place to me. Sounds like a rich superpower that gets wiped out by an alliance against it.
     
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  8. akaDaScribe

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    I'm thinking Canada won't be that much different than the US.
    And Mexico? Well we'll probably have a wall up by then blocking us in XD (how ironic)
     
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  9. OldWiseGuy

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    Babel or Babylon = "confusion (by mixing)" (Hebrew)

    Babylon/confusion probably applies more to Christians that have one foot in church and one foot in the 'world'. Worldly people have no problem with said confusion as it is their primary way of thinking.
     
  10. Oldmantook

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    Babylon is not just a geographic location but refers to the whole worldly system. The saints are warned to come out of the system and not participate in her sins.
     
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  11. TribulationSigns

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    First, you need to find God's definition for:

    1.) waters.
    2.) horns.
    3.) number 10
    4.) beast
    5.) Woman
    6.) kings of the earth

    You can't just make a claim and say, "Oh she must be a political country filled with professed Christians, called, America because she is building walls". Seriously!
     
  12. TribulationSigns

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    Not quite. Babylon the Great is not the world or "the worldly system." Rather she is New Testament Congregation, the church, who have been a representative of God's kingdom on earth making up of True Believers and Professed Believers. However, she has "BECOME" a home of the devils (false prophets and christs) like Joel Osteen, Joyce Meyers, etc which caused her to become a harlot! That is where God commanded His people to come out of His unfaithful congregation to avoid being deceived and judged by God prior to Second Coming!

    Nothing to do with USA, Europe, Wall Street, RCC, Rome, etc!
     
  13. akaDaScribe

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    I am not just randomly drumming up a theory. You haven't had any exposure to theories of the United States being Babylon before? I guess I'm dating myself and I made a bold assumption.

    That will take a minute to assemble. I'll have to post that over the weekend.
     
  14. Oldmantook

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    I don't disagree with you that the church is also a part of Babylon as the church is part of the system. The coming one-world gov't is also representative of "the system" and I don't think you want to be a part of that do you?
     
  15. TribulationSigns

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    Forget one world government, wall street, whatever that is outside of God's congregation! God is talking about HIS CONGREGATION alone. She has become unfaithful SPIRITUALLY from the INSIDE.
     
  16. Kaon

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    You have to come out of the culture and identity of what makes one a "Babylonian." We are to be citizens of Jerusalem first, and strangers/visitors of a foreign land.
     
  17. Oldmantook

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    I disagree but you are certainly entitled to your own opinion.
     
  18. God bless Joshua

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    Babylon the whore is the fake church of end times which actually control and rule the world in the coming new world order/the grief tribulation under antichrist's rule.

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  19. Marilyn C

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    Hi DaScribe,

    Well Aussie land is still a great place to be. So far South it is off people`s radar!!!!

    Still seriously, Babylon is what God says it is, Babylon the city. It is actually getting rebuilt by the US and UN. Look on utube. Anyway the city of Babylon will be the capital of the world when the `Assyrian` has his way. Then it will house the false religion till the 10 kings/ leaders (of Islam) decide to get rid of it.

    Then we know from Rev. 17 & 18, that the city not only has the religious aspect but also will be the economic capital of the world. The prophet Zechariah tells us that the economic infrastructure will be moved from its present day setting to the land of Shinar. Where is Babylon? Right, in the land of Shinar. (Zech. 5: 5 - 11) It is presented as pictorial imagery.

    Marilyn.
     
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  20. AlasBabylon

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    Jeremiah 50/51 is the OT prophecy about the fall of ancient Babylon. It also tells Babylon's captives to leave Babylon. Yet, in OT history that did not happen until Cyrus conquered Babylon and liberated God's people to return to Jerusalem to rebuild the temple [Ezra 1.] Cyrus is an OT archetype of Christ.

    The symbolic name, Babylon, is used in Revelation for the end of the age globalist empire. No where to physically run when the evil empire is global.

    Btw... Rev 16:12... the angel drying up the Euphrates river to make way for the kings of the east... is how Cyrus conquered ancient Babylon... by diverting the water from the Euphrates at Babylon, so his troops could secretly invade the city by going under Babylon's "invincible" wall in a surprise attack.

    As in Rev 16:15, Cyrus conquered ancient Babylon, "like a thief."

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