Thanks for all responses.
There wasn't an answer explaining satisfyingly(to me) explained why Jesus will not suffer in hell for eternity if there is eternal torment for lost souls.
But i got reminded, that Jesus just forgave sins when he was alive. "Your sins are forgiven". How is that possible without him crucified, yet? We even have authority to forgive sins ourselves.
John 20,23 Whose soever sins ye remit, they are remitted unto them; and whose soever sins ye retain, they are retained.
So there is a whole new aspect of the law system for me that i will dig in. I will trust the spirit more than scripture or men; why not trust men is obvious, why i don't perfectly trust scripture? Because translations might be manipulated. E.g. "Jakob 1,13 Let no man say when he is tempted, I am tempted of God[...]" "Mt6,13 And lead us not into temptation, but deliver us from evil[...]"
But thats my own journey. The disciples didn't have a new testament, there for it must be optional for salvation.
To sin against an eternal God means eternal punishment made sense to me. However, Jesus would have to suffer eternally then. How is it possible for anyone to become happy, when you know that somewhere billions suffer immeasurable pain?
I was wondering if anyone actually answered your question? It seems to me like you are asking - Assuming God is fair to everyone; how does Jesus overcome an eternal punishment?
(I think I may be able to answer your question.)
Couple of things here:
1 - You are correct. Eternal punishment is eternal punishment regardless of who is paying it!
2 - If Jesus is not in hell; but reigning at the right hand of the Father; then..... how'd He get out?
3 - How can Jesus tell someone their sin is forgiven before actually having atoned for it?
All good valid questions and I also agree; it is inadequate to say "you need more faith" or "you're a finite human and you'll never understand so don't bother" yada, yada, yada, Yoda! (May "the Force" explain this to me!) LOL
First off; this is how I consider how "time" and "eternity" gel together.
Picture a sphere within endless space. With in that sphere is the created universe. The created universe consists of all the material world, carbon based life, non carbon based entities (angels, demons, Satan), what we call "hell" (or Sheol). The universe as it exists today has a distinct beginning and will have a distinct end. Time only exists in the created universe and time only goes in one direction.
Outside of that sphere is God's application of eternity. Having no beginning and having no end. "From everlasting to everlasting." That is God's domain. He is omnipresent. He fills up the "space" of eternity as well as the space of the created universe. And yeah, that's a little hard for us to wrap our brains around because our experience is confined to the created universe. None the less; God is also all knowing, all powerful and immortal in HIS eternal existence. As soon as He entered the created order as a created entity He became "killable" and this is part of the reason as to how Jesus could die.
Now looking at this sphere, where time only goes in one direction which resides within this all powerful eternal "space" of this entity (God) who has no beginning and no end. So being that entity that has no beginning and no end; He is able to interject Himself into this created universe at any point and in multiple points that He desires.
Revelation 13:8 tells us Jesus is "the lamb slain from the foundations of the world". And how that is possible can be conceived upon if we understand the created universe exists within God's eternity. So not only does atonement take place inside of time; it also takes place outside of time in eternity. So this is how Jesus can say to a sinner: Your sins are forgiven; before that has actually happened within creation's time. See, we tend to look only at the box that we are in. We often don't see outside that box; because we are so confined to our own understanding of time as we exist in a created universe.
So just like the atonement has establishment in both time and eternity; God's wrath only has "application" as it applies to the origin of creation. Prior to there being a created universe; the only entity that existed was God and God being without shadow of turning and wholly converged of the same purpose as a unified entity; there was no sin to be wrathful about; so obviously there was no wrath. (Are you following me? Does that make sense?)
Now, let's define "the wrath of God". God is angry at sin. It offends Him because He knows it not. It's foreign to His existence. God can't disobey Himself. LOL. So because sin is evil and destructive is why He hates it. Yet God existed before His own wrath did; because God existed before sin did. So because there was an aspect of Jesus's personhood that is eternal (outside of time and outside of creation - He existed in that space outside the sphere). This is how He could overcome an "eternity" in hell. Because He is greater than an "eternity" that "begins" and only moves in one direction.
And this is why not only is there a "hell" (or Sheol) in this life; there is a "lake of fire" in the next. There will be a recreated heavens and earth that over comes the corruption inherent in this current universe. And a lot of aspects that are present in this universe will not be in the next. There will be no time. There will be no death. There will be no sin. There will be no potential for corruption.
Yet keep in mind that the new heavens and earth; though will be an incorruptible reflection of this endless sphere of eternity; never the less it is still a "created" thing. And why (ultimately) does that exist? Remember the verse "by him and for him were all things created...". Once the second person of the Trinity because part of the created world (and doing so was the only way HE could redeem it). That gave "creation" a certain type of permanence; because now God starting from incarnation moving all the way through the remainder of "eternity" now "required" a "space" to exist in. And this was the reason for redemption.
Now the Scripture declares that "God is love". And the very witness of that is the fact that He would not have created a universe He knew to be fundamentally unredeemable. God is not only a loving entity; He's a practical one. LOL. There is no point; no glory in creating something you know you will only destroy in the end. That is not a display of love. That's tyranny.
Now why are some redeemed when others are not? If you know the Scripture well enough to know that's ultimately the sovereign decree of God's will. But why doesn't He redeem everyone? He could have; but He doesn't. The Scripture tells us that all of what God does; springs forth from the base of what His character is (which is love); for the sake of His greater glory. Now this is a little hard to wrap our heads around as fallen creatures because we're inclined to scream "That's not fair." Yet if we truly acknowledge what we ALREADY know to be true (that the wrath of God is revealed from heaven....) we'd all be condemned. If we got what was "fair"; that would be the end result of all of us. We'd all be condemned.
So to those who are redeemed; what is to God's greater glory? "Oh God, how nice of You to save all of us." or "The knowledge of what I know I deserve; is so overwhelming, that I don't have anything to say!" (God who am I to complain about what You decide when I deserve condemnation myself. And I know (and You know that I know) You did not have to come into this world to redeem any of us!) Do you recognize the difference between that reality and he who complains against God in his own constant rebellion?
So what of those in the lake of fire on the other side of the recreated world? Some say they "remain there because they continue to sin"; yet if that was true; that would mean that fundamentally speaking - the new heavens and new earth would be corruptible and the evidence there of regarding that corruptibility would be the presence of sin. And this is why I don't see those in the lake of fire as "containing to sin for eternity" as a concept that would be Scripturally sound.
Now the reality of someone being forsaken by God for all of "time" going "forward" is frankly something more horrendous that what I can wrap my brain around in this life. In the next life things will be different; including our perspective. Will the redeemed be aware of the condemned in the new heavens and new earth? I don't know if we actually have enough information to deduce that? We are given "pictures" of "heaven". Yet keep in mind that the place where deceased saints go now (called "heaven") is different than the new heavens and new earth will be. We actually have very little "descriptor" of the other side of eternity; other than we know no sin, no death, no corruption.
So to answer your question; (if you have not already figured the answer out for yourself) Jesus over came eternal punishment and "got out of hell" because He as eternal God in human form, was greater than the sum of His parts. Wrath is not all of what God exists as. It's just a reaction to sin based off the attribute of being without sin.