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Featured How does the Beast Convince the World he is God /Jesus

Discussion in 'Eschatology - Endtimes & Prophecy Forum' started by Just The Facts, Feb 3, 2019.

  1. timothyu

    timothyu Well-Known Member

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    Along the lines of making the world great again.
     
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  2. ewq1938

    ewq1938 Well-Known Member Supporter

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    2Th 2:11 And for this cause God shall send them strong delusion, that they should believe a lie:
    2Th 2:12 That they all might be damned who believed not the truth, but had pleasure in unrighteousness.
     
  3. timothyu

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    Those Christians of the Kingdom will not be deceived, they will be annihilated. Those that are still of the world will carry on with the flow.
     
  4. Invalidusername

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    This part has always puzzled me until recently and I had a revelation or rather just a "Duh!" moment. I used to wonder why Satan would fulfill God's prophecies. Isn't that pointless? The devil is trying to rebel! Why not take a different approach and then avoid hell for a longer period of time. Then I realized that it is because as God has allotted humans a limited time to live, God has allotted the devil a certain amount of time before he must be cast into the lake of fire. So thus the devil simply wants to deceive as many people and as quickly as possible before the end comes. Because the Satan knows that "his time is short".
     
  5. timothyu

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    It's been a long work period for the Tempter since the Garden without a break. Retirement is on the horizon. :)
     
  6. Invalidusername

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    Thankfully.
     
  7. timothyu

    timothyu Well-Known Member

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    Hey, the Tempter deserves credit. Without it many may not have come to the realization of how backwards the will of man is compared to God's will. Anyone should know we learn best from our mistakes.
     
  8. Erik Nelson

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    the Beast was spiritually defeated 1700 years ago

    the modern era corresponds to the "little time" of Gog and Magog (Revelation 20:7-9)

    every deceit helps the Deceiver

    Gog and Magog don't inherit a Millennium, as they apparently expect

    They will be destroyed by fire from Heaven (Revelation 20:9)

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    "Use the Irish mercenaries. Arrows cost money. The dead cost nothing" -- Edward Longshanks ( portrayed as an evil Germanic villain), Braveheart
     
  9. Pethesedzao

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    I will see the Antichrist just before Jesus destroys him with the breath of His mouth.
     
  10. eleos1954

    eleos1954 God is Love Supporter

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    Until Jesus returns there is still sin active in our world. So, unless we are in heaven with Jesus then whoever or whatever power(s) and their claims of being God are to be ignored/discounted, and certainly not worshiped, regardless of what goes on, including strong signs, wonders, perceived miracles and/or any type of forced worship.

    2 Thessalonians

    8 And then shall that Wicked be revealed, whom the Lord shall consume with the spirit of his mouth, and shall destroy with the brightness of his coming:
     
  11. ewq1938

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    The beast doesn't exist yet so cannot have been destroyed already. The beasts (there are two) will be defeated when Christ returns after they ruled the world for 42 months.

    No, the modern era is now and is long before the "little time" when Satan is released from the pit. He isn't cast into the pit until after the 42 month GT.


    Gog and Magog aren't Christians and wouldn't believe in such a concept let alone expect one plus the Mill is over by the time they are deceived a last time and then are destroyed.
     
  12. timothyu

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    Read what scripture says about crossing the Euphrates. A highway has already been built.

    Rev 16:12 And the sixth angel poured out his vial upon the great river Euphrates; and the water thereof was dried up, that the way of the kings of the east might be prepared.
     
  13. Tone

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    Are you referring to being a member of His body?
     
  14. Tone

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    Yeah, this whole Trump thing with MAGA and The Wall is setting the stage for the beast. We have a counter-reaction to the socialist agenda of wealth redistribution, by "securing our borders" (a symbol of national sovereignty), which seems like it could be slowing the process down, but I believe it is expediting it. We have the whole world watching the U.S.'s protective posture and their desire to be "prosperous" is inflamed. The prosperity gospel has been flooding third world nations for decades and they want a piece of the pie, so I feel an exponential push for global economic equality rising.
     
  15. timothyu

    timothyu Well-Known Member

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    How about making the Kingdom great again :)
     
  16. Neogaia777

    Neogaia777 Apprentice Supporter

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    He will probably in fact be able to convince a great many people that those God's (YHWH and even Christ Himself or themselves), actually "hate us", and they involved, or sometimes involve and/or use us and this world, for very sinister plans, and or ultimately very selfish and self-centered reasons, ect, ect.... that if "we only knew", we would consider them the same, ect...

    God Bless!
     
  17. Neogaia777

    Neogaia777 Apprentice Supporter

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    "Who knows" exactly what he is going to do...? But it will be thing like these, or this, and related to them...

    Anyway,

    God Bless!
     
  18. TheLostCoin

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    From the Catechism of the Catholic Church:
    "675 Before Christ's second coming the Church must pass through a final trial that will shake the faith of many believers. The persecution that accompanies her pilgrimage on earth will unveil the "mystery of iniquity" in the form of a religious deception offering men an apparent solution to their problems at the price of apostasy from the truth. The supreme religious deception is that of the Antichrist, a pseudo-messianism by which man glorifies himself in place of God and of his Messiah come in the flesh.

    676 The Antichrist's deception already begins to take shape in the world every time the claim is made to realize within history that messianic hope which can only be realized beyond history through the eschatological judgment. The Church has rejected even modified forms of this falsification of the kingdom to come under the name of millenarianism, especially the "intrinsically perverse" political form of a secular messianism.

    677 The Church will enter the glory of the kingdom only through this final Passover, when she will follow her Lord in his death and Resurrection. The kingdom will be fulfilled, then, not by a historic triumph of the Church through a progressive ascendancy, but only by God's victory over the final unleashing of evil, which will cause his Bride to come down from heaven. God's triumph over the revolt of evil will take the form of the Last Judgment after the final cosmic upheaval of this passing world."

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    14 Saints Reveal Details About the Antichrist
     
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  19. TheLostCoin

    TheLostCoin A Lonesome Coin Supporter

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    I'm not Catholic, but I thought I'd show Erik what his Church teaches - although he says he is non-denomination, he often times shows his support for Rome as the True Faith.
     
  20. Pethesedzao

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