Holocaust Denier Eric Dubay

[A_Thinker]

It appears that Flat Earth promoter Eric Dubay is a Holocaust Denier.

Why the Holocaust Denial?

I wonder if Flat Earth enthusiasts understand that Dubay is the source for most of their arguments for Flat Earth and against the Globe Earth ?

Some of these are ...

"The horizon appears perfectly flat 360 degrees around ... "
"The horizon always rises to one's eye-level."
"Water always finds its level."
"Surveyors, engineers, and architects do not take curve into account."
"Planes would need to constantly dip their noses on a Globe Earth."

Dubay also references Airy's Failure, the Michelson_Morley and Sagnac experiments, and his incredulity regarding the ability of gravity to hold the oceans to a globe, while simultaneously allowing for bird and butterfly flight.

Just about every Flat Earth argument can find it's origin in Eric Dubay's "200 Proofs Earth is Not a Spinning Ball"

The PDF can be downloaded at the link below ...

http://www.freepdf.info/index.php?post/Eric-Dubay-200-proofs-earth-is-not-a-spinning-ball

 

[ananda]

Ad hominem.

 

[durangodawood]

Ad hominem.

Yes. And a valid one!

 

[ananda]

Yes. And a valid one!

Ad hominem attacks are never valid.

 

[durangodawood]

Ad hominem attacks are never valid.

I know many cases when they are not vaild. But why are they never valid?

 

[ananda]

I know many cases when they are not vaild. But why are they never valid?

An attack on a person's character is subjective - one person's hero is another person's villain. The nature of a hero/villian's character is irrelevant to the objective facts the hero/villain may or may not speak of.

 

[durangodawood]

An attack on a person's character is subjective - one person's hero is another person's villain. The nature of a hero/villian's character is irrelevant to the objective facts the hero/villain may or may not speak of.

What was non-objective about noting the guys published opinions on other topics like flat-earth.

Its an objective fact that he's published those.

 

[2PhiloVoid]

It appears that Flat Earth promoter Eric Dubay is a Holocaust Denier.

Why the Holocaust Denial?

I wonder if Flat Earth enthusiasts understand that Dubay is the source for most of their arguments for Flat Earth and against the Globe Earth ?

Some of these are ...

"The horizon appears perfectly flat 360 degrees around ... "
"The horizon always rises to one's eye-level."
"Water always finds its level."
"Surveyors, engineers, and architects do not take curve into account."
"Planes would need to constantly dip their noses on a Globe Earth."

Dubay also references Airy's Failure, the Michelson_Morley and Sagnac experiments, and his incredulity regarding the ability of gravity to hold the oceans to a globe, while simultaneously allowing for bird and butterfly flight.

Just about every Flat Earth argument can find it's origin in Eric Dubay's "200 Proofs Earth is Not a Spinning Ball"

The PDF can be downloaded at the link below ...

http://www.freepdf.info/index.php?post/Eric-Dubay-200-proofs-earth-is-not-a-spinning-ball

This is the first I've ever heard of the guy, and apparently, he not only denies a Round Earth along with the Holocaust but also has one more gimmicky card up his sleeve as well:

Jesus Christ Never Existed

 

[Strathos]

This is the first I've ever heard of the guy, and apparently, he not only denies a Round Earth along with the Holocaust but also has one more gimmicky card up his sleeve as well:

Jesus Christ Never Existed

Ironic, considering how many Christians follow his flat earth ideas.

 

[KeeperOfMemories]

And you feel the need to promote his ideas here? Why? Why give them airtime? Why give them the attention they so desire?

 

[Strathos]

And you feel the need to promote his ideas here? Why? Why give them airtime? Why give them the attention they so desire?

I think the idea is to make the people who already subscribe to his ideas think twice about it.

 

[ananda]

What was non-objective about noting the guys published opinions on other topics like flat-earth.

Its an objective fact that he's published those.

... and that has nothing to do with whether or not he is or isn't a "Holocaust denier"

 

[SoldierOfTheKing]

A prominent flat-earther also adheres to other fringe beliefs which are nevertheless more widely held than flat-earthism...

Is this surprising? Should it be?

 

[Nithavela]

Makes sense in hindsight. When you can make people disbelief what's right in front of their eyes, it's easy to make them disbelieve something that happened before their parents were born.

 

[FireDragon76]

An attack on a person's character is subjective - one person's hero is another person's villain. The nature of a hero/villian's character is irrelevant to the objective facts the hero/villain may or may not speak of.

It does show he's drawn to kooky fringe ideas.

 

[FireDragon76]

This is the first I've ever heard of the guy, and apparently, he not only denies a Round Earth along with the Holocaust but also has one more gimmicky card up his sleeve as well:

Jesus Christ Never Existed

Some folks are just drawn to kooky ideas based on scant or no reliable evidence. Remember the Birthers? There's a whole subculture now that trades in these sorts of wacky ideas and validates each other.

... and that has nothing to do with whether or not he is or isn't a "Holocaust denier"

It could if he is predisposed to a fantasy-prone mind and paranoia.

 

[pleinmont]

There seem to be a lot of crazy people in this world who deny things in spite of the supportive evidence, and visa versa.

 

[ananda]

It does show he's drawn to kooky fringe ideas.

That's also debatable. One person's kooky fringe ideas is another person's established fact.

 

[FireDragon76]

That's also debatable. One person's kooky fringe ideas is another person's established fact.

The Holocaust narrative is based on established facts, and responsible, ethical individuals don't debate it.

 

[ananda]

The Holocaust narrative is based on established facts, and responsible, ethical individuals don't debate it.

Have you witnessed those things for yourself?