Hell is not permanent.

[EchoPneuma]

Fine Linen, was it you that I was debating with a few months ago regarding universal salvation?

 

[Der Alte]

[SIZE=-1]*snip* Irrelevant bloviation omitted.[/SIZE]

[SIZE=-1]The subjunctive mood indicates action that is possible or potential.

3. Subjunctive Mood.

This is the mood of probability. It implies some doubt as to the reality of the action. It expresses an uncertainty of an action which may or may not happen.[/SIZE]

A half truth, is a whole lie.

The highlighted portion was omitted to deliberately slant the meaning of the definition.

G5792 Mood-Subjunctive

The subjunctive mood is the mood of possibility and
potentiality. The action described may or may not occur,
depending upon circumstances. Conditional sentences of the
third class ("ean" + the subjunctive) are all of this type, as
well as many commands following conditional purpose clauses,
such as those beginning with "hina."
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Here is an example.

Mal 3:7 Even from the days of your fathers ye are gone away from mine ordinances, and have not kept them. Return unto me, and I will return unto you, saith the LORD of hosts. But ye said, Wherein shall we return?​

 

[EchoPneuma]

Just for reference I am posting all the scriptures that teach universal salvation of all men. We keep hearing that we need to take the WHOLE bible as our guide. Well here is what the WHOLE bible teaches about it.

“Who will have all men to be saved, and to come unto the knowledge of the truth.” I Tim. 2:4

“He doeth according to his will in the army of heaven, and among the inhabitants of the earth; and none can stay his hand, or say unto him, What doest thou?” Dan. 4:35.

“He worketh all things after the counsel of his own will.” Eph. 1:11.

“Behold, all souls are mine; as the soul of the father, so also the soul of the son is mine.” Ezek 18:4

“Having made known unto us the mystery of his
will, according to his good pleasure which he hath purposed in himself, that in the dispensation of the fullness of times he might gather together under one Head, all things in Christ, both which are in heaven and which are on earth, even in him.” Eph. 1:9,10

“But I would have you know, that the head of every man is Christ; and the head of the woman is the man; and the head of Christ is God.” I Cor. 11:3.

“For thou hast created all things,
and for thy pleasure they were and are created.” Rev. 4:11.

“As I live, saith the Lord God, I have no pleasure in the death of the wicked.” Ezek. 33:11.

“My counsel shall stand, and I will do all my pleasure.” Isa. 46:10.

“We both labor and suffer reproach because we trust in the living God who is the Savior of all men, especially of those who believe.” I Tim. 4:10.

“We have seen, and do testify, that
the Father sent the Son to be the Savior of the world.” 1 John 4:14.

“For this purpose the Son of God was manifested, that he might destroy the works of the devil.” I John 3:8.

“Ask of me, and I will give thee the heathen for thy
inheritance, and the uttermost part of the earth for thy possession.” Ps. 2:8.

“The Father loveth the Son, and hath given all things into his hand.” John 3:35.

“Thou has given him power over all flesh, that he should give eternal life to as many as thou has given him.” John 17:2. (Compare to above verse)

“But we see Jesus, who was made a little lower than the angels for the suffering of death, crowned with glory and honor; that he by the grace of God should taste death for every man.” Heb. 2:9

“He gave himself a ransom for all to be testified in
due time.” I Tim. 2:6.

“And the ransomed of the Lord shall return and come to Zion with songs and everlasting joy upon their heads: they shall obtain joy and gladness, and sorrow and sighing shall flee away.” Isa. 35:10.

“And he is the propitiation for our sins, and not for ours only, but also for the sins of the whole world.” I John 2:2.

“And the Lord hath laid on him the iniquity of
us all.” Isa. 53:6.

“Behold the Lamb of God which taketh away the sin of the world.” John 1:29.

“And I, if I be lifted up from the earth, will draw all men unto me.” John 12:32. (not might, but WILL)

“I saw in the night visions, and behold, one like the Son
of man came in the clouds of heaven, and came to the Ancient of Days, and they brought him near before him. And there was given him dominion, and glory, and a kingdom, that all people, nations and languages should serve him; his dominion is an everlasting dominion which shall not pass away, and his kingdom that which shall not be destroyed.” Dan. 7:13, 14.

And when all things shall be subdued unto him, then shall the Son also himself be subject unto him that put all things under him, that God may be ALL IN ALL.” I Cor. 15:24-28.

“That was the true light which lightest every man that cometh into the world.” John 21:9.

“All things were created by him and for him.” Col. 1:16.

“And having made peace through the blood of the cross, by him to reconcile all things unto himself; by him, I say, whether they be things in heaven or things on earth.” Col. 1:20.

“God was in Christ reconciling the world unto himself, not imputing their trespasses unto them; and hath committed unto us the word of reconciliation.” II Cor. 5:19

“Therefore, God hath highly exalted him, and given him a name which is above every name that at (in) the name of Jesus every knee shall bow of things in heaven, and things in earth, and things under the earth; and that every tongue should confess that Jesus Christ is Lord to the glory of God the Father.” Phil. 2:9-11.

“no man can say that Christ is Lord, but by the Holy Ghost.” I Cor. 12:3.(compare to above verse)

“all nations whom thou hast made shall come and worship before thee, O Lord, and shall glorify thy name.” Ps. 86:9.

“As in Adam all die even so, in Christ, shall all be made alive.” I Cor. 15:22.

“The last enemy, death, shall be destroyed.” I Cor. 15:26.

“Christ hath abolished death, and hath brought life and immortality to light through the Gospel.” II Tim. 1:10.

“The word which God sent unto the children of Israel, preaching peace by Jesus Christ: he is Lord of all.” Acts 10:36

“Forasmuch, then, as the children are partakers of flesh and blood, he, also, himself (i.e., Christ), took part of the same, that through death he might destroy him that had the power of death – that is, the devil.” Heb. 2:14.

“Fear not,” said the angel who announced it, “for, behold, I bring you good tidings of great joy, which shall be to all people.” Luke 2:10.

“Glory to God in the highest, and on earth peace, good will toward men.” Luke 2:14.

“For of him (God), and through him, and to him, are all things.” Rom. 11:36

“Then shall the dust return to the earth as it was; but the spirit shall return unto God who gave it.” Eccl. 12:7.

“If I be lifted up from the earth, I will draw all men unto me.” John 12:32.

“Therefore, as by the offense of one judgment came upon all men to condemnation, even so by the righteousness of one the free gift came upon all men unto justification of life.” Rom. 5:18

We are required to love our enemies, that we may be like our heavenly Father. Matt. 5:44.

We are all required to “bless those that curse us,” that we may be “merciful, as God is merciful.” Luke 6:28, 36.

It is said, we must do good to them that hate us, that we may be merciful, as God is merciful. Matt. 5:44, 48. Luke 6:27, 36

Jesus said: “If ye love them (only) that love you, what reward have ye? Do not even the publicans the same?” Matt. 5:

“Be not overcome of evil, but overcome evil with good.” Rom. 12:21.

“But now commandeth all men everywhere to repent.” Acts 17:30. (isn't hell a part of "everywhere")

“And they shall not teach every man his neighbor, and every man his brother, saying know the Lord: for all shall know me from the least to the greatest.” Heb. 8:11.

“And he shall send Jesus Christ, which before was preached unto you, whom the heaven must receive until the times of restitution of ALL THINGS, which God hath spoken by the mouth of ALL HIS HOLY PROPHETS since the world began.” Acts 3:20, 21.

“all the ends of the world shall remember and turn unto the Lord, and all the kindreds of the nations shall worship before him. For the kingdom is the Lord’s, and he is the governor among the nations.” Psalm 22:27, 28.

“All kings shall fall down before him: all nations shall serve him, and men shall be blessed in him: all nations shall call him blessed.” Ps. 72:11,17

“The Lord is good to all, and his tender mercies are over all his works.” Ps. 145:9.

“All thy works shall praise Thee, O Lord.” Psalm 145:10

“The Lord is merciful and gracious, slow to anger, and plenteous in mercy. He will not always chide; neither will he keep his anger forever.” Psalm 103:8, 9.

“And in this mountain shall the Lord of Hosts make unto all people a feast of fat things, a feast of wines on the lees, of fat things full of marrow, of wines on the lees well refined.” Isa. 25:6.

“God will destroy in this mountain the face of the covering cast over all people, and the veil that is spread over all nations.” Isa. 25:7.

The Almighty says, “as the rain cometh down, and the snow from heaven, and returneth not thither, but watereth the earth, and maketh it bring forth and bud, that it may give seed to the sower, and bread to the eater; so shall my word be that goeth forth out of my mouth: it shall not return unto me void, but it shall accomplish that which I please, and it shall prosper in the thing whereto I sent it.” Isa. 55:10, 11.

“I will also give thee for a light to the Gentiles, that thou mayest be my Salvation unto the end of the earth.” Isa. 49:6.

“I will put my law in their inward parts, and write it in their hearts; and will be their God, and they shall be my people. And they shall teach no more every man his neighbor, and every man his brother, saying, know the Lord: for they shall ALL know me, from the least of them to the greatest of them, saith the Lord: for I will forgive their iniquity and I will remember their sin no more.” Jer. 31:33-34.

“The Lord WILL NOT CAST OFF FOREVER. But though he cause grief, yet will he have compassion according to the multitude of his tender mercies, for he doth not afflict willingly, nor grieve the children of men.” Lam. 3:31-33.

“He (God) retaineth not his anger forever, because he delighteth in mercy.” Micah 7:18.

“For the grace of God that bringeth salvation hath appeared to all men, teaching us, that denying ungodliness and worldly lusts, we should live soberly, righteously, and godly, in the present world.” Titus 2:11, 12

“EVERY CREATURE” which is in heaven, and on the earth, and under the earth, and such as are in the sea, and all that are in them, heard I, saying, Blessing, and honor, and glory, and power, be unto him that sitteth upon the throne, and unto the Lamb forever and ever

+++++++++++++++++++++++

I think that pretty much shows the whole context of the bible about universal salvation. Yet, those who believe in ET want to take a few verses out of the NT and because of MISTRANSLATED greek words, cling to a belief in an eternal hell...and ignore all these verses to the contrary.

 

[KCDAD]

DER ALTER: Back to my original answer. It does not matter. With God all things are possible. If God decrees a thing to happen, it will happen. Body, no body, spiritual, physical, or none of the above.

God decreed that Ninevah would be overthrown... did it happen? Or was it that "God changed his mind"?

 

[Soul Searcher]

Using the BDB
​

Just wondering here, Why did you title your post "Using the BDB" ? It appears to be talking about the BDAG rather than the BDB.

 

[FineLinen]

Fine Linen, was it you that I was debating with a few months ago regarding universal salvation?

Bingo...however I have at last come to my senses. Our heavenly Father hates His creation and anticipates keeping it locked in disobedience and misery for the endless ages, for.....

[move]From Him everything comes, through Him everything exists, and in Him less than everything ends. Potential Source, potential Guide, potential Goal of all that is, Amen![/move]





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[EchoPneuma]

Bingo...however I have at last come to my senses. Our heavenly Father hates His creation and anticipates keeping it locked in disobedience and misery for the endless ages, for.....

[move]From Him everything comes, through Him everything exists, and in Him less than everything ends. Potential Source, potential Guide, potential Goal of all that is, Amen![/move]






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Just wanted to let you know that I did as I said I would. I took it all to the Lord in much prayer and study, and the Lord changed my mind about universal salvation. I now see that it truly is what the bible teaches.

Remember I was struggling with WANTING to believe it, but I just couldn't see it. Now I can because God has helped me.

Just wanted to share that with you. I remember we had a good conversation and ended on a high note....

 

[Soul Searcher]

I think that pretty much shows the whole context of the bible about universal salvation. Yet, those who believe in ET want to take a few verses out of the NT and because of MISTRANSLATED greek words, cling to a belief in an eternal hell...and ignore all these verses to the contrary.

Execellent I didn't stop to count but it looked like there were more than 28 of them

Even with that list as long as it were I think there are still a few others that could have been in there too.

 

[gort]

SS quotes:

and round and round we go.
Looks like there is no point in attempting to talk with you on this subject at all.

You can ask a thousand times and I'll still give the simple direct answer. If you're looking for a deep meaning to the one unforgiveable sin, then you look too far.

So in his great mercy he neither forgives nor accepts due payment according to you?

In His great Mercy all sins are forgiveable, but not this on. And it's not according to me, but Jesus.

Ok so where is my error?

SS quotes:
By your reasoning if someone at somepoint has committed blasphemy then from that point on they should feel totally free to commit any and every sin they can think of for the punishement will be the same if it is done once or 1 million times, if it is thier only sin or if it is the first of millions no difference according to you.

Your error is thinking you know my thoughts and how you want to portray them.

Have you not said that if a person blasphemes the HS they will never be forgiven?
Have you not also said that there is no way to make amends or pay for this sin?
Have you not also indicated that the same will suffer an eternity in hell?

Already answered yes to these.

Is it possible to suffer a greater penalty?
What is the penalty if one comits the act of blasphemy more than once?, more than 100 times?, a million?
Do other sins combined with this one or many add to the eternity of punishment somehow?
Is what I said a logical fallacy as you state or is it exactly on the mark of what you have been saying?

1. Nobody knows

2. Only one eternity in the LOF

3. Only one eternity in the LOF

4. Your fallacy is presuming to add words to what I said to reach an unsubstantiated conclusion attempted to be put in the least amount of light possible.

 

[timlamb]

Tim, a couple of questions for you regarding damnation?

1. Is all damnation equal?

2. Is the elect House of God subject to eternal damnation?

3. Is the greater damnation of the Scribes and Pharisee's the same greater damnation as those described by the Apostle James as "my brothers", specifically teachers?

4. What is damnation?

[move]"Assuredly the Bible is not the story of sin, deepening into eternal ruin, of God's Son worsted in His utmost effort; it is from the opening to the close the story of grace stronger than sin--of life victorious over every form of death--of God triumphing over evil."[/move]

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This is an old post, you were not there for the conversation, everything is subject to intent.
If you wanted to share your thoughts with me you would do so, but it appears to me you are just baiting be for your own gain, otherwise, you would look up the definition for yourself.
damn; To pronounce an adverse judgement upon; criticize adversely.
damnation; the act of damning or the condition of being damned.
The definition does not state eternal, thus the clairifier for biblical purposes.
There are other definitions but I saw the fit being thrown on der alter of choosing appropriate definitions over the first, so I stuck to the first.
This business of eternal meaning only for the age does not wash with me. You universalist types ignore that arguement when it comes to eternal life. Also, just because judgement was passed in one age does not mean it will not last into the next and the next and on, we expect grace to last from this age and beyond.
I expect that since Lucipher, God's number one guy, will be cast off forever, all creation is subject to damnation.
Most people on this thread, when they ask loaded questions like these, come back explaining they wanted my opinion. Well, I base my opinion on the facts as I have them, so that is what I give you. I have no more answers for you, I do not want to put the time into researching them, especially since you do not really care what I think unless it agrees with you.
I have to get back to work.
Just checking in, bye all,
timlamb

 

[KCDAD]

My ears actually perked.... whoa....
John 1:29 Sin ... singular... The one singular sin of the world.
This is coming from John who EVERYBODY agrees is a prophet.. Pharisees, Muslims, Christians... aardvarks.

 

[Merzbow]

You can ask a thousand times and I'll still give the simple direct answer. If you're looking for a deep meaning to the one unforgiveable sin, then you look too far.

Daneel, you didn't answer my question. How can you resolve the doctrine (which I presume you hold) of sola fide with the supposed existence of the unforgivable sin? It's impossible. Otherwise you have to admit that any man who speaks against the Holy Spirit as a non-Christian, and then is turned to Christ and professes and has faith in him, cannot be saved.

And my point about Paul was not that he did this as Paul, but potentially as Saul. Unless Saul was a very polite, very soft-spoken persecutor of Christians.

 

[EchoPneuma]

Daneel, you didn't answer my question. How can you resolve the doctrine (which I presume you hold) of sola fide with the supposed existence of the unforgivable sin? It's impossible. Otherwise you have to admit that any man who speaks against the Holy Spirit as a non-Christian, and then is turned to Christ and professes and has faith in him, cannot be saved.

Excellent point! If it really WAS unforgiveable and could NEVER be forgiven.....then that means that those Pharisees (who had blasphemed the Holy Spirit) could NEVER be saved even if they had repented and turned to Jesus. By their sin of blasphemy of the Holy Spirit they had eternally sealed their fate NO MATTER WHAT THEY DID FROM THAT POINT ON. Yet, Jesus tells them that the kingdom of God was WITHIN THEM and that the prostitues and tax collectors would enter in BEFORE THEM....meaning they WOULD enter in one day.

Yet another thing that the proponents of ET can't reconcile.

And my point about Paul was not that he did this as Paul, but potentially as Saul. Unless Saul was a very polite, very soft-spoken persecutor of Christians.

How about the fact that Paul says that he is the worst sinner ever to have lived and yet he was saved by the GRACE of God. But apparently, according to Daneel, the Pharisees were WORSE sinners than Paul and COULD NOT EVER be forgiven because they had committed the unforgiveable sin and it would NEVER be forgiven them.

 

[Merzbow]

Another poster boy for Universalism. Again, NOT!

Let's consider the evidence, shall we?

Clement of Alexandria VI.-From the Book on the Soul.

All souls are immortal, even those of the wicked, for whom it were better that they were not deathless. For, punished with the endless vengeance of quenchless fire, and not dying, it is impossible for them to have a, period put to their misery.

http://www.ccel.org/fathers2/ANF-02/anf02-79.htm#P10261_2871673

Nothing more than a FRAGMENT.

Clement of Alexandria Exhortation to the Heathen

For the author of evil, torment has been prepared; and so the prophet Zecharias threatens him: “He that hath chosen Jerusalem rebuke thee; lo, is not this a brand plucked from the fire?” What an infatuated desire, then, for voluntary death is this, rooted in men’s minds! Why do they flee to this fatal brand, with which they shall be burned, when it is within their power to live nobly according to God, and not according to custom? For God bestows life freely; but evil custom, after our departure from this world, brings on the sinner unavailing remorse with punishment.

http://www.ccel.org/fathers2/ANF-02/anf02-50.htm#P2691_785581

Punishment. Not everlasting punishment - there isn't even an aionios here.

Clement of Alexandria Who is the Rich Man that Shall Be Saved?

For though sparing, and aiming at testing, who will receive meritoriously or not, it is possible for you to neglect some that are loved by God; the penalty for which is the punishment of eternal fire.

http://www.ccel.org/fathers2/ANF-02/anf02-86.htm#P10493_2903393

Lemme guess - 'aionios' fire? We covered that. Either 'age-lasting', or eternal in the sense of timeless or the nature of the divine (as Plato used it, derived from Aristotle's use and definition of aion). NOT everlasting. And I'm betting he used the Greek word that means corrective punishment (as the NT does).

Now let's look at Clement's soteriological writings in his major works. Do they support the view that he believed one could not escape from this punishment? Assuredly not:

And, as I think, the Saviour also exerts His might because it is His work to save; which accordingly He also did by drawing to salvation those who became willing, by the preaching [of the Gospel], to believe on Him, wherever they were. If, then, the Lord descended to Hades for no other end but to preach the Gospel, as He did descend; it was either to preach the Gospel to all or to the Hebrews only. If, accordingly, to all, then all who believe shall be saved, although they may be of the Gentiles, on making their profession there; since God's punishments are saving and disciplinary, leading to conversion, and choosing rather the repentance thorn the death of a sinner; and especially since souls, although darkened by passions, when released from their bodies, are able to perceive more clearly, because of their being no longer obstructed by the paltry flesh.

http://www.earlychristianwritings.co...ata-book6.html

And:

And how is He Saviour and Lord, if not the Saviour and Lord of all? But He is the Saviour of those who have believed, because of their l wishing to know; and the Lord of those who have not believed, till, being enabled to confess him, they obtain the peculiar and appropriate boon which comes by Him....

For all things are arranged with a view to the salvation of the universe by the Lord of the universe, both generally and particularly. It is then the function of the righteousness of salvation to improve everything as far as practicable. For even minor marten are arranged with a view to the salvation of that which is better, and for an abode suitable for people's character. Now everything that is virtuous changes for the better; having as the proper cause of change the free choice of knowledge, which the soul has in its own power. But necessary corrections, through the goodness of the great overseeing Judge, both by the attendant angels, and by various acts of anticipative judgment, and by the perfect judgment, compel egregious sinners to repent.

http://www.earlychristianwritings.com/text/clement-stromata-book7.html

Sigh.

 

[katallasso]

Just wanted to let you know that I did as I said I would. I took it all to the Lord in much prayer and study, and the Lord changed my mind about universal salvation. I now see that it truly is what the bible teaches.

Remember I was struggling with WANTING to believe it, but I just couldn't see it. Now I can because God has helped me.

Just wanted to share that with you. I remember we had a good conversation and ended on a high note....

Welp, so much for these debates not being instrumental in changing anyones views.

 

[katallasso]

Are we getting off the subject with the unpardonable sin? Sure would hate to see this thread kiboshed by those with the cute mod hates on.

 

[katallasso]

KCDad, pretty remarkable when ya think about it, eh?

John 1:29 On the morrow, he beholdeth Jesus, coming unto him, and saith--See! the Lamb of God, who taketh away the sin of the world.


So with the sin taken away and our God not being a tyrant there is no need for and Eternal Hell !!!

YIPPEE !!!

 

[gort]

Daneel, you didn't answer my question. How can you resolve the doctrine (which I presume you hold) of sola fide with the supposed existence of the unforgivable sin? It's impossible. Otherwise you have to admit that any man who speaks against the Holy Spirit as a non-Christian, and then is turned to Christ and professes and has faith in him, cannot be saved.

And my point about Paul was not that he did this as Paul, but potentially as Saul. Unless Saul was a very polite, very soft-spoken persecutor of Christians.

Yes, I believe in sola fide, by/through faith are we saved by Christ alone. Versus salvation entirely of works of man to acquire said salvation.

But I don't believe in cheap grace either, and I reckon neither do you.

As it is not by cheap Grace, we are to abide in and follow Christ Jesus. Yet in all that Jesus taught, He said many times what the consequences are of what I term cheap Grace. I can list them if you like, but don't feel I need to.

Paul wrote of this too, as did John.

The clear doctrine of the blasphemy of the HS has a consequence. I've read many papers and opinion regarding this and come to the conclusion it is what it simply says. To blaspheme against the HS.

Regarding Saul/Paul, we have no Scripture showing that he did in any way. Timlamb points out that if one were to blaspheme their hearts could never have a love for God. A love for God is given to us by Him.

As to whether a non-christian could blaspheme the HS I have no knowledge. I don't think anybody else knows either.

More could be said regarding these subjects. another bat-time, another bat channel...

 

[gort]

Are we getting off the subject with the unpardonable sin? Sure would hate to see this thread kiboshed by those with the cute mod hates on.

The consequences of the unpardonable sin have relevance to the thread title. Probably most themes of Scripture have relevance.

 

[Merzbow]

Gregory of Nyssa, poster boy for Universalism, or is he?
Volume V. Gregory of Nyssa: Dogmatic Treatises; Select Writings and Letters

"In the treatise, De Pauperibus Amandis, II. p. 240, he says of the last judgment that God will give to each his due; repose eternal to those who have exercised pity and a holy life; but the eternal punishment of fire for the harsh and unmerciful: and addressing the rich who have made a bad use of their riches, he says, 'Who will extinguish the flames ready to devour you and engulf you? Who will stop the gnawings of a worm that never dies?'"

http://www.ccel.org/fathers2/NPNF2-05/Npnf2-05-07.htm#P180_18498

You give a PARTIAL quote from the source, giving the impression that who you quote agrees with you. He doesn't, he in fact agrees that Gregory had a strong universalist streak. Now let's look at the FULL quote:

But when it has passed away, what follows? That God will be "all in all." Gregory accepts the whole of Origen's explanation of this great text. Both insist on the impossibility of God being in `everything,' if evil still remains. But this is equivalent to the restoration to their primitive state of all created spirits. Still it must be remembered that Origen required many future stages of existence before all could arrive at such a consummation: with him there is to be more than one `next world;' and even when the primitive perfection is reached, his peculiar view of the freedom of the will, as an absolute balance between good and evil, would admit the possibility of another fall. `All may be saved; and all may fall.' How the final Sabbath shall come in which all wills shall rest at last is but dimly hinted at in his writings. With Gregory, on the other hand, there are to be but two worlds: the present and the next; and in the next the apokatastasij twn pantwn must be effected. Then, after the Resurrection, the fire akoimhtoj, aiwnioj, as he continually calls it, will have to do its work. `The avenging flame will be the more ardent the more it has to consume' (De Anima et Resurr., p. 227). `But at last the evil will be annihilated, and the bad saved by nearness to the good.' There is to rise a giving of thanks from all nature. Nevertheless21 passages have been adduced from Gregory's writings in which the language of Scripture as to future punishment is used without any modification, or hint of this universal salvation. <insert above partial quote>

How do you defend omitting this section of the quote, Der Alter?

Now let's look at your other quotes:

Severe and long-continued pains in eternity are thus decreed to sinners, not because God hates them, nor for the sake alone of punishing them; but "because what belongs to God must at any cost be preserved for Him. The degree of pain which must be endured by each one is necessarily proportioned to the measure of the wickedness.

I agree totally with Gregory here that an everlasting torment is not porportionate to the wickedness of any sinner. Thanks for the support!

In any and every case evil must be removed out of existence, so that, as we said above, the absolutely non-existent should cease to be at all. Since it is not in its nature that evil should exist outside the will, does it not follow that when it shall be that every will rests in God, evil will be reduced to complete annihilation, owing to no receptacle being left for it?

That's an argument against ECT if I ever saw one. 'When it shall be that every will rests in God, evil will be reduced to complete annihilation'? And you are posting this in SUPPORT of your position?!?