Harry Potter should not be watched by Christians.

[Bible Highlighter]

Not all fantasy is sin. Fictional fantasy, even with magic and monsters, is just art, there is no evil in it's intention. Just stop, you are just embarrassing christians.

No. You are not wanting to see the truth.
Just saying it is art or imagination does not undo the reality of sin.

 

[Cis.jd]

If it is just 100% fantasy then why all the real similarities to the real occult and witchcraft world? If it is just fantasy, no harm in thinking of it 24/7 for 6 months?

Because it is fantasy! That is what fantasy is, it is a suspension of reality. There are forms of art that is much more entertaining when there are visuals, characters, plots and a story based on human imagination. There is no harm at all thinking of these things in a form of making a story or an art.

I want to make a story about the supernatural in where my characters are battling the forces of evil. So, to make this story as good I will include things such as monsters, demons, ghosts, and powers.. it's just for entertainment.

 

[Cis.jd]

No. You are not wanting to see the truth.
Just saying it is art or imagination does not undo the reality of sin.

You are the one who refuses to see the truth. The only thing a christian-seeker and a non-believer is going to see from your posts is a negative example of christianity.. and no, it's not because "you know God and they don't".

edit: as I said before, one of the things satan can do is use the Bible against Christians, by having them so closed minded to scripture that they have lost or disregarded all knowledge and reason and tag it as "world views", hence they are unable to determine things with out a fundamentalistic sense and develop superstition and the inability to comprehend what is real and what isn't. This has been displayed since the dark ages with gypsies and the victims from salem.

 

[Bible Highlighter]

Because it is fantasy! That is what fantasy is, it is a suspension of reality. There are forms of art that is much more entertaining when there are visuals, characters, plots and a story based on human imagination. There is no harm at all thinking of these things in a form of making a story or an art.

I want to make a story about the supernatural in where my characters are battling the forces of evil. So, to make this story as good I will include things such as monsters, demons, ghosts, and powers.. it's just for entertainment.

So what about cartoon porn movies? It is pure fantasy. No harm in that because it is art or fantasy, right?

 

[Bible Highlighter]

You are the one who refuses to see the truth. The only thing a christian-seeker and a non-believer is going to see from your posts is a negative example of christianity.. and no, it's not because "you know God and they don't".

edit: as I said before, one of the things satan can do is use the Bible against Christians, by having them so closed minded to scripture that they have lost or disregarded all knowledge and reason and tag it as "world views", hence they are unable to determine things with out a fundamentalistic sense and develop superstition and the inability to comprehend what is real and what isn't. This has been displayed since the dark ages with gypsies and the victims from salem.

No. You are imagining things. The unbeliever is going to see hypocrisy if Christians fantasize about sinful things that the Bible condemns.

 

[timothyu]

Just enough fantasy to dupe people.

Into what?

 

[Bible Highlighter]

Into what?

That putting sin in their mind is okay because they write it off as 100% fantasy. The story may be fantasy and the characters may be fantasy but the sin is still very real.

 

[SPF]

The desire of lusting after another is fantasy. People create lustful thoughts of another and it involves a realm of fantasy. So no. It is not in how you describe it. In the real world, people who lust after others includes an element fantasy as a part of their lusting after them.

The sin is the lusting and the coveting, not the use of one’s imagination.

Witchcraft will always be condemned in all its forms by God.

I agree, but reading the Chronicles of Narnia is not practicing or endorsing witchcraft.

It sounds like you’re trying to say that “fantasy” aka imagination is somehow wrong, and it’s just not. Our imagination can be used in positive ways and negative ways.

Veggie Tales is fantasy, yet I think it’s very edifying and good.

Green Eggs and Ham is fantasy, is it a sin to read that book to my children?

Elves, dwarves, unicorns, dragons, ogres, leprechauns, zombies, and every single instance of an animal, plant, or food talking is fantasy - are all those wrong and sinful?

Fantasy and imagination are good things that God has blessed us with. I would even go so far as to say that part of being created in the Image of God is the fact that we can fantasize and be imaginative and creative.

Narnia is not witchcraft, nor did CS Lewis promote witchcraft or encourage people to get involved in witchcraft.

You’re being nothing short of legalistic in the promotion of your opinion.

 

[timothyu]

The story may be fantasy and the characters may be fantasy but the sin is still very real.

Like what we watch on the news every day, especially the politics.

 

[Bible Highlighter]

Like what we watch on the news every day, especially the politics.

I am not sure you are getting at here. You are being too vague.

 

[Bible Highlighter]

Folks should look at ChristianHeadlines today.

Christian News - Breaking News Headlines in Religion & Faith

Maybe you will see what I am talking about.

 

[timothyu]

I am not sure you are getting at here. You s are being too vague.

The sin is still very real in most of what it portrays. The ways of man are contrary to the ways of the Kingdom, the will of God. What purpose does it serve to distract from that by focusing on fantasy. Reality is much more dangerous.

 

[Cis.jd]

No. You are imagining things. The unbeliever is going to see hypocrisy if Christians fantasize about sinful things that the Bible condemns.

You have fell in the same trap that christians in the dark ages and Salem fell for.

 

[Bible Highlighter]

You have fell in the same trap that christians in the dark ages and Salem fell for.

Not a chance. I believe in New Covenant Nonresistance. Problem in your view is that the sin is selective. Obviously you will not justify cartoon porn or other other acts of sexual immorality in fantasy, but witchcraft? Why not? God condemned that sin a long time ago. It’s such an old sin and it is not really a problem today. But go ahead and keep saying to yourself that fantasizing about witchcraft is okay because it is just art. You do realize that in Genesis 6 that one of the reasons listed as to why God sent a global flood is that their thoughts were evil continually? But they are just thoughts? Nothing bad about that, right?

 

[Bible Highlighter]

You have fell in the same trap that christians in the dark ages and Salem fell for.

Please do your homework for a change instead seeing what you want to see. Try reading up on how Harry Potter and Narnia use real occult junk within it. It is real occult stuff being pushed on children in a fantasy setting. Oh but it is just art. Not to the witches out there. But you can keep pretending like there is no problem if you like. Kids have already stated that want to do witchcraft based on watching Harry Potter.

 

[Cis.jd]

Please do your homework for a change instead seeing what you want to see. Try reading up on how Harry Potter and Narnia use real occult junk within it. It is real occult stuff being pushed on children in a fantasy setting. Oh but it is just art. Not to the witches out there. But you can keep pretending like there is no problem if you like. Kids have already stated that want to do witchcraft based on watching Harry Potter.

You are the only one who needs to do homework. Even history shows how wrong and bad your views are.

There is no real occult in any of the fantasy titles you've mentioned. Get over it.

 

[Cis.jd]

Not a chance. I believe in New Covenant Nonresistance. Problem in your view is that the sin is selective. Obviously you will not justify cartoon porn or other other acts of sexual immorality in fantasy, but witchcraft? Why not? God condemned that sin a long time ago. It’s such an old sin and it is not really a problem today. But go ahead and keep saying to yourself that fantasizing about witchcraft is okay because it is just art. You do realize that in Genesis 6 that one of the reasons listed as to why God sent a global flood is that their thoughts were evil continually? But they are just thoughts? Nothing bad about that, right?

You are fooled by satan. The historical track record of these views that you argue on is already evident, it has all lead to the false accusations that lead people being defamed and brutally killed.

satan has always used the bible in fooling christians - making them so closed to it that they have shut out all forms of knowledge under the deceivers of it being "worldly views", hence representing christianity in such an absurd and negative way.

You have to drop this cartoon porn comparison and do your homework. Porn has psychological effects on the brain triggering the same chemicals that a drug addict gets and it objectifies women, whether real porn or animated. Just listen to Ben Shapiro and Jordan Peterson when they talk about the dangers of pornography. The purpose of porn isn't to suspend people from reality through story-telling, like fictional fantasy, but to actually entice men sexually.

 

[JacksBratt]

But this is still outside of the points, other than God or satan there is also a 3rd possibility that there is no real power, it's all a performance (at best) or a scam.

Yes, I agree, if there is no supernatural event.. it is a performance or scam.

The series of HP is all performance... However, it creates an attraction, a dangerous one, to witchcraft and sorcery, that is of Satan... and it targets our impressionable youth.

that there are certain displays of "powers" that are not real. They are not from God or from satan, the person is either an artist (magician) or a liar (the pastor).

This is not real. There is no real power from God or satan, he is just a completely liar.

Yes, then it is a lie... However, there are displays of power and actual supernatural events that must only be from one of two sources... God... or Satan.

Right, so lets continue on with that point: what did the Christians of that time believed about the people they where accusing?

I don't know.. Some here have stated that it was about farming and such... What do you say that they are accusing them of?

In the end, it is just people wrongfully applying biblical ideals in a twisted fashion in order to achieve money or gain.... It's not of God. It's not new. Jesus said it would happen.

Anytime someone is using the bible and/or it's scripture, in a way that is not Godly... it is sinful. Happens all the time.

This doesn't change the fact that HP is a story about witchcraft and sorcery that attracts impressionable youth to the satanic cult.

I remember that argument in where you where using a magician in America's Got Talent as an example. You where even given videos and explained by others that these magicians are just keeping in character. It's like Kayfabe. It's not real, jack.

You say "It's not real"..... I say that much of illusionists is well rehearsed trickery with props and planted scripted people to pull it off.... Others... are demonic and satanic assisted work.

You can say "it's not real" ... I can say "some of it is totally demon assisted".... It's our right to have our opinion.

 

[JacksBratt]

You are the only one who needs to do homework. Even history shows how wrong and bad your views are.

There is no real occult in any of the fantasy titles you've mentioned. Get over it.

We do not fight against flesh and blood. We fight against a much more intelligent realm and group of supernatural beings form another dimension.

Hollywood is not winning any awards for it's righteousness. It overwhelms us with sex, violence and other ungodly fair. Satan is at the helm... From HP to Dead pool, to all the super hero movies that numb us to the demi gods and their ilk...to 2 and a half men... to any number of shows and movies that numb our sense of reality and righteous behavior..... Even sit-coms for kids like "The Wizards or Waverly Place" condition kids and parents that it is all just funny and entertainment...

Meanwhile, it is an ingenious plan to warp reality and Gods way.

Put a frog in boiling water and it will jump right out... Put it in a pot of cold water and slowly heat it to a boil and it will just stay there till it is soup..

That is what has been happening in the entertainment industry... To ignore it ... is the demise of society.

 

[Cis.jd]

The series of HP is all performance... However, it creates an attraction, a dangerous one, to witchcraft and sorcery, that is of Satan... and it targets our impressionable youth.

No, this is superstition.

Yes, then it is a lie... However, there are displays of power and actual supernatural events that must only be from one of two sources... God... or Satan.

So what if there is, the point is that there is claimed or staged magic out of no source. There is absolutely no evidence of satan having super powers.

Here is what I don't get about you Protestants and why I am a bit convinced that your "unapostalic" doctrines are influenced by satan.
You reject the idea of God's own people: Saints, having the ability to pray for people on Earth yet you actually believe satan to have this much power? Look at how much reverence you give satan yet shame on God with all this dark-age "witchcraft" hunt. You are the ones showing such interest into satan just by your accusations of various fantasy-arts. It's as if your faith is dependent on him.

I don't know.. Some here have stated that it was about farming and such... What do you say that they are accusing them of?
In the end, it is just people wrongfully applying biblical ideals in a twisted fashion in order to achieve money or gain.... It's not of God. It's not new. Jesus said it would happen.

But other than greed or gain, there are cases that people really believed they where following the Bible. Go back to Salem and just look at the accusations and trials. They had 0 knowledge of anything and only knew the world through the Bible, applying no knowledge or reason into their own theology. Which is what satan does. You are in this trap.

You say "It's not real"..... I say that much of illusionists is well rehearsed trickery with props and planted scripted people to pull it off.... Others... are demonic and satanic assisted work.
You can say "it's not real" ... I can say "some of it is totally demon assisted".... It's our right to have our opinion.

None of it is real and this is not an actual opinion, they are factually just not real.[/quote]