Fixer Upper Stars Under Fire for Attending Evangelical Church

[Armoured]

It's quoted in the article in the OP. I believe JCF already posted the relevant bits.

Oh, the comments that are basic, non judgemental facts?

 

[Root of Jesse]

Well? Does he?Well? Is it?
And? if it's OK for some people to boycott businesses and individuals for being pro LGBT, why shouldn't the reverse apply?

Please let's not fall for the trick of getting swept up in an engineered publicity stunt. Celebrities' religious affiliations are rarely (if ever) made media fodder without them being complicit.

Yes he does, and yes it is, but so what? I go to a Catholic Church, which teaches that Homosexuality is a sin. How many of the hosts are Catholic?
I don't think they're complicit at all. I've never seen them expound their Christian beliefs verbally. I've only seen their amazing life expanding in various ways. I know that Chip Gaines does do public appearances and witnessing to men's groups on the side, but only because I have relatives in Texas who have gone to see him. They live a Christian marriage, obviously, to me. But I'm very sure they're not complicit.

 

[MoonlessNight]

Celebrities' religious affiliations are rarely (if ever) made media fodder without them being complicit.

What planet do you live on where the media requires explicit consent before releasing personal details of celebrities?

 

[Armoured]

Yes he does, and yes it is, but so what? I go to a Catholic Church, which teaches that Homosexuality is a sin. How many of the hosts are Catholic?
I don't think they're complicit at all. I've never seen them expound their Christian beliefs verbally. I've only seen their amazing life expanding in various ways. I know that Chip Gaines does do public appearances and witnessing to men's groups on the side, but only because I have relatives in Texas who have gone to see him. They live a Christian marriage, obviously, to me. But I'm very sure they're not complicit.

OK. BTAIM I'm not really seeing the "under fire" element here.

 

[Root of Jesse]

They might be, but what do any of those sources say that makes them "under fire"? Specifically?

They are under fire, in that the insinuation that they attend that church, they must believe what that pastor teaches, and that we should all be horrified and demand that they be squashed. My take? So what if they do believe as he does? It's their right. It is also their right to choose not to accept business from gay or LGBTQ people if they so choose.

The truth of the matter is that they didn't even really want to be on TV, and almost didn't make it because a film crew followed them around and was almost ready to pack it up, because they weren't natural TV people.

 

[Disciple37]

Christians should expect to face persecution. This has to be one of the hardest challenges they're going to face. To stand up in the face of the world. Homosexuality is a sin but we are to love them and hate the sin. So yes, all Christians should be against the LGBT community in as loving way as possible.

Serving a homosexual couple should be considered in prayer. Would being kind, loving, and gentle and serving them and being a good steward of God the way to go or do you feel lead to deny them service because God is convicting you. I do not think it's a simple answer of yes and no. Your service should be considered in prayer.

Denying service may benefit a homosexual more than giving them service. Giving them service may benefit a homosexual more than denying them service. And when i say benefit, ultimately leading them to Christ.

 

[Armoured]

They are under fire, in that the insinuation that they attend that church, they must believe what that pastor teaches, and that we should all be horrified and demand that they be squashed.

I think there's a bit of projection going on

My take? So what if they do believe as he does? It's their right.

of course it is

It is also their right to choose not to accept business from gay or LGBTQ people if they so choose.

Depending on where they do business

The truth of the matter is that they didn't even really want to be on TV, and almost didn't make it because a film crew followed them around and was almost ready to pack it up, because they weren't natural TV people.

Sounds unlikely, but OK.

 

[Root of Jesse]

OK. BTAIM I'm not really seeing the "under fire" element here.

Sometimes people don't see the problem unless they're the ones in the midst. When I was unemployed for four months, people didn't know that I was "under fire", yet I was. They are being pressured to disclose their personal religious beliefs, for one thing. Not that they should be afraid of it, or anything. But if they're being made uncomfortable, then that qualifies as 'under fire'.

 

[Armoured]

Christians should expect to face persecution. This has to be one of the hardest challenges they're going to face. To stand up in the face of the world. Homosexuality is a sin but we are to love them and hate the sin. So yes, all Christians should be against the LGBT community in as loving way as possible.

Saying "this person goes to a church with a pastor who preaches against LGBTI people" is not "persecution".

 

[Armoured]

Sometimes people don't see the problem unless they're the ones in the midst. When I was unemployed for four months, people didn't know that I was "under fire", yet I was. They are being pressured to disclose their personal religious beliefs, for one thing. Not that they should be afraid of it, or anything. But if they're being made uncomfortable, then that qualifies as 'under fire'.

Where are they being pressured to reveal personal religious beliefs?

 

[Root of Jesse]

I think there's a bit of projection going onof course it isDepending on where they do businessSounds unlikely, but OK.

Have you read the articles or heard the reporting? And it's not unlikely, it's true. Truth is, by the way, often unlikely.

 

[com7fy8]

Seriously, picking on a random host because of the church they go to?

Cosmo, buzzfeed, huffpo are specifically named.

Ones can say anything, just to get attention. Ones understand that Donald did this, and this helped him to win. So, may be they are learning from Donald

But yes, what goes around comes around. We will reap what we have been sowing > Galatians 6:7-8 < we have God's attention!

 

[Disciple37]

Saying "this person goes to a church with a pastor who preaches against LGBTI people" is not "persecution".

I am not saying they are facing persecution in a significant form at this very moment, but it's banging on their door and all they have to do is answer that door and speak the truth.

 

[redleghunter]

The article lists these:

“Chip and Joanna Gaines’s Pastor Preaches ‘Homosexuality is a Sin’” – blared a headline on Cosmopolitan.

“Chip and Joanna Gaines’ Church is Firmly Against Same-Sex Marriage,” screamed a Buzzfeed headline. “Their pastor considers homosexuality to be a ‘sin’ caused by abuse – whether the Fixer Upper couple agrees is unclear.”

And user base:

Our friends at Newsbusters tracked down this item from US Weekly:

“As a Fixer Upper fan, I would love to know @joannagaines and @chippergaines’s thoughts on their pastor’s hateful, anti-LGBT beliefs,” one viewer declared. Another went further, writing: “If Chip and Joanna Gaines end up being anti-LGBT, I am cancelling my mag subscription and ignoring their show.”

Well there you have it. All Chip and Joanna have to do to right the politically correct ship is to attend a spirit cooking performance.

We have now entered the Twilight Zone where churches are hateful for preaching sin is bad.


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[redleghunter]

Well? Does he?Well? Is it?
And? if it's OK for some people to boycott businesses and individuals for being pro LGBT, why shouldn't the reverse apply?

Please let's not fall for the trick of getting swept up in an engineered publicity stunt. Celebrities' religious affiliations are rarely (if ever) made media fodder without them being complicit.

Faulty conclusions. The show does not preach against homosexuality. If it did your point would be valid.


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[Root of Jesse]

Well? Does he?Well? Is it?
And? if it's OK for some people to boycott businesses and individuals for being pro LGBT, why shouldn't the reverse apply?

Please let's not fall for the trick of getting swept up in an engineered publicity stunt. Celebrities' religious affiliations are rarely (if ever) made media fodder without them being complicit.

It's pretty obvious to me that you didn't read the articles even a little. The opening headline of the first link is "
Chip and Joanna Gaines's Pastor Preaches "Homosexuality Is a Sin"
But do they agree?
"

 

[Armoured]

I am not saying they are facing persecution in a significant form at this very moment, but it's banging on their door and all they have to do is answer that door and speak the truth.

No. It's not.

 

[LivingWordUnity]

The left-wing mafia seems to randomly choose Christians to harass.

 

[FireDragon76]

"Homosexuality is a sin" hasn't been the "social default" in a long time for most people outside the Evangelical Bubble. At the very least, there is/was more nuance present.

 

[Armoured]

It's pretty obvious to me that you didn't read the articles even a little. The opening headline of the first link is "
Chip and Joanna Gaines's Pastor Preaches "Homosexuality Is a Sin"
But do they agree?
"

And?

I seem to recall certain people (mentioning no names) demand a certain US President defend his relationship with religious figures he had been associated with previously, but I guess the is different because "reasons".

They're public figures, I think it's a fair enough question if people genuinely want to know. Get back to me when anyone demands they change their beliefs or unlawfully discriminates against them.