Fixer Upper Stars Under Fire for Attending Evangelical Church

[JCFantasy23]

Ones can say anything, just to get attention. Ones understand that Donald did this, and this helped him to win. So, may be they are learning from Donald

But yes, what goes around comes around. We will reap what we have been sowing > Galatians 6:7-8 < we have God's attention!

Trump has nothing to do with it. If anything, he kept dissing political correctness overload. This escalating social climate of find and socially (sometimes economically) destroy has been going on for years now. It keeps escalating.

 

[FireDragon76]

Most Catholics in the US support same-sex marriage. In fact the percentage is higher than even mainline Protestants.

It is indeed a "bubble" that believes homosexuality is a bogieman, a harbinger of the end-times or the decline of society. It's been that way for the past ten years. You might find some people that have ambivalent attitudes about gays, but you will not find strong opposition to homosexuals as persons in most of the US public.

 

[SolomonVII]

Catholicism is not a democracy.

Neither is truth.

 

[Root of Jesse]

Most Catholics in the US support same-sex marriage. In fact the percentage is higher than even mainline Protestants.

It is indeed a "bubble" that believes homosexuality is a bogieman, a harbinger of the end-times or the decline of society. It's been that way for the past ten years. You might find some people that have ambivalent attitudes about gays, but you will not find strong opposition to homosexuals as persons in most of the US public.

No, they don't. If they do, they're outside the teaching of the Church. It's not about whether someone has an attraction to someone of the opposite sex, it's about engaging in an act of sex outside of marriage. We do not oppose people being homosexual, having same sex attraction. We oppose premarital sex. There's a lie that having sex before marriage is a good thing, and it's not. See the number of abortions being done as birth control.

 

[Tyler James Williams]

God have mercy.

Praying.

Don't they know that what goes around comes around, and that this blatant bullying and bigotry and picking fights where there was NONE, will boomerang right back to where it started from?

This applies:

"As the bird by wandering, as the swallow by flying, so the curse causeless shall not come." ~Proverbs 26:2

They just brought a curse on their own selves.

Despicable.

 

[Disciple37]

No, they don't. If they do, they're outside the teaching of the Church. It's not about whether someone has an attraction to someone of the opposite sex, it's about engaging in an act of sex outside of marriage. We do not oppose people being homosexual, having same sex attraction. We oppose premarital sex. There's a lie that having sex before marriage is a good thing, and it's not. See the number of abortions being done as birth control.

Wait .... you're saying that as long as Homosexuals are married they can live in a holy union before God and are not living in sin????

 

[Tyler James Williams]

Catholicism is not a democracy.

Neither is truth.

Excellent comments! Isn't It amazing how the 'left' are in the minority, but yet cry the loudest; they want "FREE SPEECH" only when they speak, but not for the majority. Someday, ALL, will have to give an answer for their actions here on earth. A day of reckoning is not that far away, if this nation, and world does not heed God's Word. It is NOT what man does not want to hear, but that which the Creator God has sat down in His laws.

 

[Tyler James Williams]

Wait .... you're saying that as long as Homosexuals are married they can live in a holy union before God and are not living in sin????

Read God's Word: the Bible states that is two men sleep together lustfully for each other, and carry out a sexual act with the other, it is an abomination! The same for two women; just as His Word also commands man (or woman) not to lie with an animal ( for sexual purposes!

 

[Disciple37]

Read God's Word: the Bible states that is two men sleep together lustfully for each other, and carry out a sexual act with the other, it is an abomination! The same for two women; just as His Word also commands man (or woman) not to lie with an animal ( for sexual purposes!

I dont understand your point. Are you saying that Homosexual Marriage is not an abomination before the Lord? That two men and two women can be married and their marriage be holy before the Lord?

 

[RDKirk]

Well? Does he?Well? Is it?
And? if it's OK for some people to boycott businesses and individuals for being pro LGBT, why shouldn't the reverse apply?

Please let's not fall for the trick of getting swept up in an engineered publicity stunt. Celebrities' religious affiliations are rarely (if ever) made media fodder without them being complicit.

Except it's not even alleged that Magnolia Enterprises are anti-LGBT. Nobody has testified to having been discriminated against by Magnolia Enterprises, and I personally think I've seen them do a house for a gay couple.

So this is very closely like the right-wing attacks against Obama for having attended a left-wing church...that also, btw, is anti-LGBT just as much as the Gaines' church.

The Gaines and their Magnolia Enterprises have gotten some sudden and rather surprising publicity of late, and much of it has been because of the intensely sweet and wistful nature of their marriage and family relationship as shown on the show. They are just so darned lovable.

Then it came out that the credited their marriage and family success to their Christianity, and to the extent that they've spoken of their Christianity at all, it's been wholly with regard to their own family and marriage relationship, not about "family and marriage" as a whole. If anything since that revelation, their popularity has soared. They are just so darned cute. I want them to adopt me.

I suspect someone is beating the bushes for a gay couple that has been turned away by Magnolia Enterprises. I'd point out, though, that HGTV has long been very LGBT-sensitive. Gay couples tend to have money for new homes and renovations are are often portrayed in HGTV programming. HGTV has also been very quick to drop celebrities who show anti-LGBT bias.

 

[Armoured]

Ok:

http://www.catholic.com/tracts/homosexuality

Exactly. Homosexuality is not sinful.

 

[Armoured]

These articles aren't just about people calmly asking questions and wondering. Some people are continuing witch hunts.

Speaking on that, why it is it the public's business? This couple hosts a home renovation show that has nothing to do with religion. They don't bring their religion up. I have no idea why they should be required to state the details of their religious beliefs in the first place.

As the article states,

It’s absolutely true that the Gaines family attends a church that believes marriage is between one man and one woman.

Should that disqualify them from having a television program on HGTV?

Do the militant LGBT activists want to create a Black List – banning individuals who attend evangelical Christian churches from working in the industry? Is that what they really want?​

Where is anyone suggesting this belief "disqualifies them" from being on TV?

 

[Armoured]

Except it's not even alleged that Magnolia Enterprises are anti-LGBT. Nobody has testified to having been discriminated against by Magnolia Enterprises, and I personally think I've seen them do a house for a gay couple.

So this is very closely like the right-wing attacks against Obama for having attended a left-wing church...that also, btw, is anti-LGBT just as much as the Gaines' church.

Hence "if".

 

[Disciple37]

Exactly. Homosexuality is not sinful.

That is a LIE that is not from the Lord Jesus Christ.

24 Therefore sGod gave them up in the lusts of their hearts to impurity, to tthe dishonoring of their bodies among themselves, ua lie and worshiped and served the creature rather than the Creator, vwho is blessed forever! Amen.

wGod gave them up to xdishonorable passions. For their women exchanged natural relations for those that are contrary to nature; ymen committing shameless acts with men and receiving in themselves the due penalty for their error.

9 Or do you not know that the unrighteous2 will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived: xneither the sexually immoral, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor men who practice homosexuality,3 10 nor thieves, nor the greedy, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor swindlers will inherit the kingdom of God.

22 hYou shall not lie with a male as with a woman; it is an abomination.

13 fIf a man lies with a male as with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination; they shall surely be put to death; their blood is upon them.

 

[Armoured]

Wrong. Homosexuality (which is the actions of being homosexual) is a mortal sin. That you have an attraction to those of the same sex is not a sin. Actions are sinful, thoughts aren't.

Wrong. Homosexuality is not synonymous with homosexual activity. Don't take my word for it, ask your priest. Or read your catechism, even.

 

[Dave-W]

Wrong. Homosexuality is not synonymous with homosexual activity.

Of course it is. But that whole argument throws us into the arena of parsing english definitions when the bible was NOT written in english.

Both malakos and arsenokoitēs can be translated homosexual, and both are condemned. Sinful.

 

[Armoured]

Of course it is. But that whole argument throws us into the arena of parsing english definitions when the bible was NOT written in english.

Both malakos and arsenokoitēs can be translated homosexual, and both are condemned. Sinful.

We're speaking English, and homosexuality has clear definitions, including in the catechism, and it is not the same thing. I suggezt in future if you mean to say "homosexual activity is sinful", then that's what you say. Because homosexuality is quite explicitly NOT sinful.

 

[Tallguy88]

We're speaking English, and homosexuality has clear definitions, including in the catechism, and it is not the same thing. I suggezt in future if you mean to say "homosexual activity is sinful", then that's what you say. Because homosexuality is quite explicitly NOT sinful.

We're not in the Catholic forum. Don't expect that sort of Catholic legalese to get you very far among non Catholics.

 

[Armoured]

We're not in the Catholic forum. Don't expect that sort of Catholic legalese to get you very far among non Catholics.

It's hardly "legalese". Orientation and activity are quite different, and demonising homosexuals for being who they are hardly seems the best course for any compationate Christian.

 

[JacksBratt]

http://www.toddstarnes.com/column/fixer-upper-stars-under-fire-for-attending-evangelical-church

Apparently, the militant homosexuals and liberal media (buzzfeed, huffpo, etc) can't stand the fact that the couple attends an evangelical church that teaches *gasp* that homosexuality is a sin and that marriage is between one man and one woman.

How long until they demand HGTV cancel the show? All over the private religious beliefs if the hosts.

Signs of the times. Just be glad that we are still able to freely worship our Lord and Savior.