FDA greenlights updated vaccines that better target currently circulating variants

[BPPLEE]

It's not really luck, though. People in asian countries learned to wear masks because of several pandemics of their own, due to poor hygene in many of their countries.

I don’t believe masks do anything to prevent Covid. It’s been said that it’s like trying to stop mosquitoes with a chain link fence

 

[Nithavela]

I don’t believe masks do anything to prevent Covid.

It's your good right to believe wrong things.

Just don't expect others to be convinced by your beliefs alone.

 

[Aaron112]

I mean if my dog got 3 rabies shots in one year and still got rabies I would be asking the vet some questions.

After the first time, maybe start looking for a different vet ? There are (or have been) vets who were honest in spite of serious repercussions if they got reported, and they may be difficult to find for just that reason - like doctors for humans, doctors for animals are subject to often very serious troubles if they tell the truth.

 

[Aaron112]

I don’t believe masks do anything to prevent Covid. It’s been said that it’s like trying to stop mosquitoes with a chain link fence

One way to prevent cvd is to first of all do not get it. No approved government plan could accomplish that, right ?

 

[Aaron112]

I was forced to take the vaccine because I work in a hospital. I will not do it again. I got Covid despite having 2 shots. What’s the point?

Was it thousand of nurses, licensed nurses working in hospitals, even in unions,
who were fired for not getting it ? They chose to not take the risk of it.

 

[BPPLEE]

It's your good right to believe wrong things.

Just don't expect others to be convinced by your beliefs alone.

I don’t care what others do. I wouldn’t try to prevent anyone from wearing a mask. I just think it’s odd that a virus strong enough to get past 3 vaccines can’t get through your Paw Patrol Mask. Anything less than an N95 is probably useless

 

[Aaron112]

I don’t care what others do. I wouldn’t try to prevent anyone from wearing a mask. I just think it’s odd that a virus strong enough to get past 3 vaccines can’t get through your Paw Patrol Mask. Anything less than an N95 is probably useless

See the many results of that if you want to. Hospital staff, doctors, nurses, in er and or ,
who went without masks always had fewer deaths and fewer infections. Thus, the truth remains hidden due to dollars, not reality.
A simple search on the effectiveness of masks years ago revealed this, and this year the same.

 

[BPPLEE]

See the many results of that if you want to. Hospital staff, doctors, nurses, in er and or ,
who went without masks always had fewer deaths and fewer infections. Thus, the truth remains hidden due to dollars, not reality.
A simple search on the effectiveness of masks years ago revealed this, and this year the same.

Did they keep any statistics on how many people who got Covid regularly wore masks?

 

[Nithavela]

I don’t care what others do. I wouldn’t try to prevent anyone from wearing a mask. I just think it’s odd that a virus strong enough to get past 3 vaccines can’t get through your Paw Patrol Mask. Anything less than an N95 is probably useless

Which is why I wear N95 masks.

 

[BPPLEE]

Which is why I wear N95 masks.

Then you’re protected. These people with napkins on their faces are being fooled

 

[Aaron112]

Did they keep any statistics on how many people who got Covid regularly wore masks?

The statistics have been published very regularly on masks for decades.

The results are more important than the studies, fwiw. i.e. what happens actually, not theoretically, is more important ...

 

[Aaron112]

Did they keep any statistics on how many people who got Covid regularly wore masks?

A lot of published results show that people got sick even if they got shot and wore masks.

 

[RestoreTheJoy]

At the moment, with widespread immunity from vaccination and infection and with effective treatments available, an average of about 90 Americans are dying every day from covid. Colds do not kill 90 Americans per day.

What makes you think that lower virulence is more common than higher virulence when viruses mutate?

Directly of Covid, or in the hospital for other reasons, and also positive for Covid (whether symptomatic or not) because hospitals are germ cesspools? Just like the first go-round, you will find these numbers all conflated.

 

[RestoreTheJoy]

At the moment, with widespread immunity from vaccination and infection and with effective treatments available, an average of about 90 Americans are dying every day from covid. Colds do not kill 90 Americans per day.

What makes you think that lower virulence is more common than higher virulence when viruses mutate?

Viruses tend to weaken and become less virulent. And yes, the cold once killed people until it weakened.

https://www.npr.org/2022/01/09/1071663583/viruses-evolve-and-weaken-over-time-what-does-that-mean-for-the-coronavirus

 

[Aaron112]

Directly of Covid, or in the hospital for other reasons, and also positive for Covid (whether symptomatic or not) because hospitals are germ cesspools? Just like the first go-round, you will find these numbers all conflated.

Just for comparison, since several thousands in the usa die from taking aspirin (or similar drug),
it may be that when they have a cold, they take an aspirin, but the cold won't be said to be the cause of death - cvd was/is/may be more likely to be put on the death certificate !

 

[Aaron112]

Are you saying they would manipulate the stats?

THEY say they do. THey teach it. The President of the USA said they do, the doctors who are licensed and work in hospitals in the usa said they do..... It has been admitted countless times for years, maybe decades.

 

[RestoreTheJoy]

That's what who says? You posted quotations that directly contradicted your claims. Are you even reading what you're writing?

Total nonsense -- deadly nonsense, in fact. While Americans were getting immunity the 'natural' way, a million of them died from covid. Many of them were not elderly. And how were we supposed to protect the elderly -- by 'distancing' from them forever?

Here's what happened when covid (the 'mild' Omicron variant' moved into two societies. Both had kept it at bay for the first year but couldn't stop Omicron. The top of the graph shows how many were infected and the bottom how many died. Would you care to guess which country had an effective vaccination campaign and which didn't? You think we should have done what the country on the left did. I'd rather go with the one on the right.
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Quote someone's entire response instead of cutting out the relevant part to bolster your viewpoint. I am not the one who is not reading my posts.

Me: That's what they say, because there will never be an admission that none of this was necessary nor affected the outcome in any significant way. Had we done absolutely nothing but contract it, as nearly everyone did, whether they became ill or not, and then go about our business, while the elderly or those with multiple co-morbidities distanced, as is simply wise, we would have had the same outcome. Or better.

A million people died NOT ALL FROM COVID, but from various causes. Anyone who happened to test positive from Covid as well as those seriously ill from Covid were all counted together as "Covid cases".

The "from Covid" and the "with Covid" were conflated. Deborah Birx specifically stated that these numbers were conflated and all were being counted as Covid deaths back in 2021, when the big, scary counters on CNN were terrorizing viewers.

In reality, 90% of the deaths were among the elderly (many warehoused in nursing homes where germs were sure to flourish- some intentionally sent there sick, as Cuomo and 3 or 4 other governors did to their people) and/or with co-morbidities, yet Covid was treated and spoken of misleadingly as if everyone was at equal risk of death. Not so. The only rational thing to have done was protect the vulnerable and everyone else go about his business. The early responders should have shown us this, as the vast majority got the virus early, had some symptoms, and went back to work.

Death Rates:

Characteristic	2020	2021	2022
Less than 1 year	1.4	4.7	6.5
1 to 4 years	0.2	0.4	1
5 to 14 years	0.2	0.4	0.5
15 to 24 years	1.4	3.8	1.5
25 to 34 years	5.7	15.5	5.2
35 to 44 years	16	40.1	11.9
45 to 54 years	45.2	96.7	29.9
55 to 64 years	107	185	71.3
65 to 74 years	252.1	330.9	158.1
75 to 84 years	644.4	682.1	414.1
85 years and older	1,842.9	1,592.6	1,224.2

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© Statista 2023

 

[essentialsaltes]

yet Covid was treated and spoken of misleadingly as if everyone was at equal risk of death.

That did not noticeably happen.

 

[Aaron112]

SLAM THE DOOR!

New movie coming out - America Exposed, documentary ..... ?

 

[Aaron112]

Viruses tend to weaken and become less virulent. And yes, the cold once killed people until it weakened.

Did it kill sick people or healthy people ?



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