FDA greenlights updated vaccines that better target currently circulating variants

[RestoreTheJoy]

That did not noticeably happen.

Oh yes, the government/media coverage treating all as if they were at equal risk and were GONNA DIE if they didn't do (insert whatever latest demand was, not mask (when masks were scarce), mask, distance 6 feet because the virus would only go that far, wear mask but take it off when you sat down to eat, get vaccine, etc) most decidedly did happen. Perhaps you missed it.

"Both figures show that major U.S. media were more negative in tone than major international media, affirming the assertions of Sacerdote, Sehgal and Cook. On average, 90% of stories published in major U.S. media outlets were negative in tone, while 54% of non-U.S. stories were negative. Similarly, the authors found the share of negative words in U.S. major media stories was higher than in non-U.S. stories."

They overplayed their hand.

CDC Director Dr. Rochelle Walensky tells CNN's Dana Bash that all eligible Americans should get vaccinated in order to protect themselves from the virus.

Because "vaccinated people are safe", she repeated - falsely- multiple times. The "unvaccinated" should get vaccinated and wear a mask so "they are safe". This is when government and media started to demonize those who were not vaccinated, when reality has shown that most people who died WERE vaccinated, as they were generally elderly and with co-morbidities. But the conversation suggests everyone who isn't vaccinated is some walking time bomb to be feared and reported on by others. This was a reprehensible tactic and led to much distrust, particularly since virtually everything was false.

She also rejoices that 12-15 year olds could be vaccinated - even though they had virtually NO negative outcomes, except myocarditis from the vaccine. And was thrilled to report that soon babies and children would be able to get it, even though they, as well, had virturally any negative response to this virus, per the stats. Oh, she mentions masks for OUTDOOR sports for kids, which was always ridiculous.

And "breakthrough" infections are rare." Nope...everyone got it (or was exposed and simply didn't get sick) sooner or later anyway, irrespective of status.

Watch her. This was NONSTOP rhertoric 24/7 on the fearmongering channels, and just at regular intervals on the more rational channels.

https://www.cnn.com/videos/politics/2021/05/16/sotu-walensky-full.cnn

 

[essentialsaltes]

CDC Director Dr. Rochelle Walensky tells CNN's Dana Bash that all eligible Americans should get vaccinated in order to protect themselves from the virus.

That does not logically imply or even suggest that all Americans were at equal risk of death. Nor does any of the rest of your post.

 

[RestoreTheJoy]

Did it kill sick people or healthy people ?



FOIs reveal that health/science institutions around the world (211 and counting!) have no record of SARS-COV-2 isolation/purification, anywhere, ever

Per Wiki, when I looked up the Russian flu pandemic the biologist on NPR referenced, it was primarily the elderly: Unlike most influenza pandemics such as the 1918 flu, primarily elderly people died in 1889.[8][30] Due to generally lower standards of living, worse hygiene, and poorer standard of medicine, the proportion of vulnerable people was higher than in the modern world.[12]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1889%E2%80%931890_pandemic

 

[Aaron112]

Per Wiki, when I looked up the Russian flu pandemic the biologist on NPR referenced, it was primarily the elderly: Unlike most influenza pandemics such as the 1918 flu, primarily elderly people died in 1889.[8][30] Due to generally lower standards of living, worse hygiene, and poorer standard of medicine, the proportion of vulnerable people was higher than in the modern world.[12]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1889%E2%80%931890_pandemic

Yet many elderly were healthy, and did not die (from it), until after they saw a doctor ! ?
What is it about seeing a doctor that causes the death rate to increase ?

 

[RestoreTheJoy]

That does not logically imply or even suggest that all Americans were at equal risk of death. Nor does any of the rest of your post.

The constant fearmongering rhetoric most decidedly did imply all were at equal risk of getting Covid 19- and the result of getting Covid-19 could definitely be hospitalization of death, if you listened to the constant refrains. There was ZERO nuance that this outcome was only somewhat likely if one already had co-morbidities or were elderly ...until about the third year.

Overall implication was get the vaccine so you don't die.

Biden constantly shilled this vaccine under that reasoning: Biden said, “If you’re vaccinated, you’re not going to be hospitalized, you’re not going to be in the ICU unit and you’re not going to die.” Biden also said that even if vaccinated people do “catch the virus,” they are “not likely to get sick.”.

Biden, Fauci, Walensky, and Cuomo were blathering the same thing nonstop for months to the entire media population.

 

[RestoreTheJoy]

Yet many elderly were healthy, and did not die (from it), until after they saw a doctor ! ?
What is it about seeing a doctor that causes the death rate to increase ?

Fair question.

 

[NxNW]

I was forced to take the vaccine because I work in a hospital. I will not do it again. I got Covid despite having 2 shots. What’s the point?

It may have saved your life?

 

[ThatRobGuy]

It's not really luck, though. People in asian countries learned to wear masks because of several pandemics of their own, due to poor hygene in many of their countries.

That's part of it, but the other aspect is that it's been something of a fashionable form of "street wear" in certain Asian countries going back to 2009 because it's a look that a pop Boy Band over there adopted.

What a Korean Teenage Fashion Trend Reveals About the Culture of Mask-Wearing

If you want to understand why America is faring so badly in the fight against Covid, it helps to understand deeper public attitudes toward health—and how they’re different around the world.

www.politico.com

For instance, if there was some new virus that came out where a protective approach was to get frosted tips, overly designed jackets, and cheesy puka shell necklaces from Pac Sun, the former fans of the group Nsync would be a-ok

 

[essentialsaltes]

There was ZERO nuance that this outcome was only somewhat likely if one already had co-morbidities or were elderly ...until about the third year.

Nonsense. By no later than the first week of March of 2020 -- before the disease even had its formal name -- the CDC, Vice President Pence, HHS Director Azar and other entities were making the situation clear.

Speaking on “Fox News Sunday,” Fauci said people with underlying conditions — particularly those who are elderly — should take steps to distance themselves from the risk of infection, including avoiding crowds and long plane trips “and above all don’t get on a cruise ship,” he said.

The general fact that most of the first victims were elderly was known in January 2020.

 

[BPPLEE]

It may have saved your life?

I still got Covid it didn’t save me from anything

 

[ThatRobGuy]

I still got Covid it didn’t save me from anything

Given what we know about the current stains....the most likely scenario (assuming that you're not 80+, or have any immunocompromising conditions), is that if you received a dose within 4-5 months of catching it, it turned a mild disease into something slightly more mild.

I still believe there's value in certain people taking additional booster doses. For instance, if you were 68, with diabetes & COPD, "absolutely, get the new booster" would be my recommendation.

 

[BPPLEE]

Given what we know about the current stains....the most likely scenario (assuming that you're not 80+, or have any immunocompromising conditions), is that if you received a dose within 4-5 months of catching it, it turned a mild disease into something slightly more mild.

I still believe there's value in certain people taking additional booster doses. For instance, if you were 68, with diabetes & COPD, "absolutely, get the new booster" would be my recommendation.

No it was closer to a year. I will be 60 in December and not taking any more shots unless my employer forces me to

 

[Pommer]

Did it kill sick people or healthy people ?



FOIs reveal that health/science institutions around the world (211 and counting!) have no record of SARS-COV-2 isolation/purification, anywhere, ever

How did they get the genome?
You know, the RNA that the virus was made from?
This is how they designed the mRNA vaccines, by engineering a new type of vaccine that they “put together” with technology to thwart a “naturally occurring*” viral disease-causing agent.

In other words, they didn’t need “quantities” the virus to make the vaccine, you’re relying on “old-tech” where we’d have to culture it to get enough to do reasearch into “what makes it tick”, mRNA technology is like a “CD”; you’re relying on a vinyl record.

*YMMV

 

[Aaron112]

Maybe there should be an early treatment plan for those that get covid19, wonder why there is not, there is for everything else........just makes one ask why not..

There is. There always has been. The President and many heads of medical groups pointed that out before the shananigans started. N u t r i t i o n ... a few particulars, tada - no problem! easy peasy

 

[Aaron112]

Nothing from the medical community, in fact it's a no no.....why?

As written in Scripture, the whole world is deceived. Why?
Why ?
Somehow so God will get glory when He brings to pass His Way.

 

[Pommer]

As written in Scripture, the whole world is deceived. Why?
Why ?
Somehow so God will get glory when He brings to pass His Way.

How nice for Him.

 

[Aaron112]

Is it because if there was a treatment, there would be no emergency use/approval, is that why the medical community attacked any drugs that might have helped. It's been what two years and no treatment plan, but a new jab.

Some people have taken one or more supplements for their health every day for ten years, give or take a few years, and never go sick in that time.
Others did almost as well, and if they get sick, they take a few simple measures to get over it quickly with no side effects and no toxic results.
Others had more problems, and went to a natural tester to find out why, found out why, and recovered very well in a short time, with no side effects from the processl
And so it goes.
Others utilized a very totally different system, and over the years continued to get weaker and sicker.
So in large part it all depends on what people are looking for, what they want, what they can afford sometimes, and how they were raised (influences what they know to look for).

 

[Aaron112]

sciencedaily.com › news › health_medicine › nutrition

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It's been what two years and no treatment plan

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and how they were raised (influences what they know to look for).

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[NxNW]

I still got Covid it didn’t save me from anything

How much time did you spend in the ICU?

 

[BPPLEE]

How much time did you spend in the ICU?

The guy I used to be in business with, in his early 50’s had both vaccinations and a booster. He died from COVID. Had no other health problems.