Democrat Appellate Judge overturns half billion dollar fine

[A2SG]

It is not professional at all

What's unprofessional about a prosecutor saying she'll prosecute criminals if elected to the office of prosecutor?

It's what prosecutors do.

and could bias things against him.

If Trump's legal team believed that, they could have argued it in court. Of course, to claim it now you'd have to prove that the judge displayed bias against Trump in his judgment. Can you?

She is NOT like everyone else....she is an AG.

So? AG's have freedom of speech too, ya know. They can voice their opinions same as everyone else.

If Engoron wasn't biased then there would be no reason to rule it as excessive and against the Constitution!

Did you read how they determined the amount of the disgorgement? Where was the bias in that determination?

It was a witch hunt pure and simple.

"Witch hunts" typically don't have a preponderance of evidence like this trial had. That's kinda why we call them that.

-- A2SG, have you seen what kind of evidence they didn't have against Rebecca Nurse or Giles Corey?

 

[NxNW]

Trump did not break the law.

Fraud's not a crime?

 

[Vambram]

Fraud's not a crime?

When did he commit fraud?

 

[Belk]

In a liberal State with a liberal judge and a liberal AG who ran on getting Trump...yep nothing to see here! No James declared Trump guilty before there even was a case! That is how witch hunts work!

No, that is how all prosecutions work. Unless you think prosecutors should go after people who they do not think are guilty just to see if they can get them convicted?

 

[Pommer]

When did he commit fraud?

It’s right here, MSN

 

[Yeshua HaDerekh]

In what court?

Appeals. Trump already won in the court of public opinion! He won the election IN SPITE of the witch trial lol

 

[A2SG]

Appeals. Trump already won in the court of public opinion! He won the election IN SPITE of the witch trial lol

That's only because the court of public opinion doesn't require evidence before returning a verdict.

-- A2SG, though, it should be noted, no appeals court has overturned any of Trump's many fraud convictions....

 

[Yeshua HaDerekh]

What's unprofessional about a prosecutor saying she'll prosecute criminals if elected to the office of prosecutor?

It's what prosecutors do.

So? AG's have freedom of speech too, ya know. They can voice their opinions same as everyone else.

Did you read how they determined the amount of the disgorgement? Where was the bias in that determination?

Nothing wrong with that...what is wrong is her saying she is going TO GET TRUMP...in public...specifically TRUMP. Well we know it was found to be EXCESSIVE and against the CONSTITUTION. See Beria...that applies here...

 

[Yeshua HaDerekh]

That's only because the court of public opinion doesn't require evidence before returning a verdict.

-- A2SG, though, it should be noted, no appeals court has overturned any of Trump's many fraud convictions....

American voters knew it was all BS...otherwise he would have had more difficult time getting elected OR maybe it was they were so sick of what Biden and Kamala did they didnt care...either way the Dems lost BIG TIME...

 

[Yeshua HaDerekh]

No, that is how all prosecutions work. Unless you think prosecutors should go after people who they do not think are guilty just to see if they can get them convicted?

No it isn't. She SPECIFICALLY said she was going to get TRUMP...not criminals in general. Dems thought they could stop Trump from running and getting elected...they were dead wrong.

 

[A2SG]

Nothing wrong with that...what is wrong is her saying she is going TO GET TRUMP...in public...specifically TRUMP. Well we know it was found to be EXCESSIVE and against the CONSTITUTION. See Beria...that applies here...

The amount of the judgment may have been deemed excessive, but not the verdict.

-- A2SG, lest we forget that little detail....

 

[A2SG]

American voters knew it was all BS...otherwise he would have had more difficult time getting elected OR maybe it was they were so sick of what Biden and Kamala did they didnt care...either way the Dems lost BIG TIME...

Yeah, I like to think 2024 was more the Democrats losing than anything else. Democrats have long been infamous for mucking up a free lunch.

-- A2SG, Will Rogers would agree....

 

[Belk]

No it isn't. She SPECIFICALLY said she was going to get TRUMP...not criminals in general. Dems thought they could stop Trump from running and getting elected...they were dead wrong.

That changes what I said in what way? Nothing that I can see. If she believes him to be guilty why would she not state she was going after him? How is that wrong? Spell it out for me.

 

[Yeshua HaDerekh]

The amount of the judgment may have been deemed excessive, but not the verdict.

Obviously it didn't matter much but that verdict may also taken away in appeals...however I dont think Trump nor America cares

 

[DaisyDay]

Obviously it didn't matter much but that verdict may also taken away in appeals...however I dont think Trump nor America cares

There is only one left, the highest appeals court in NYS which is the NYS Court of Appeals. It's isn't at all likely that the verdict will be overturned and the disgorgement may actually be reinstated though lessened. We shall see.

When did he commit fraud?

There was the Trump University fraud, the Donald J Trump Foundation fraud, and most prominently, the NYS business fraud both civil and criminal. And those are just the charged ones.

President Trump's staggering record of uncharged crimes - CREW | Citizens for Responsibility and Ethics in Washington

Donald Trump has been credibly accused of committing at least 56 criminal offenses since he launched his campaign for the presidency in 2015.

www.citizensforethics.org

 

[Vambram]

There is only one left, the highest appeals court in NYS which is the NYS Court of Appeals. It's isn't at all likely that the verdict will be overturned and the disgorgement may actually be reinstated though lessened. We shall see.


There was the Trump University fraud, the Donald J Trump Foundation fraud, and most prominently, the NYS business fraud both civil and criminal. And those are just the charged ones.

President Trump's staggering record of uncharged crimes - CREW | Citizens for Responsibility and Ethics in Washington

Donald Trump has been credibly accused of committing at least 56 criminal offenses since he launched his campaign for the presidency in 2015.

www.citizensforethics.org

The Trump University fraud and the Foundation fraud have all been legally taken care of. The NYS business fraud are completely and totally bogus. The only ones who don't believe those are bogus are probably only the left wing liberals. But, for the sake of discussion. Let us assume that all of the progressive liberal attacks against President Trump are actually true. What does that say about Kamala Harris and the leadership of the Democratic Party which was roundly rejected by the vast majority of the voters in 31 states in the 2024 election?

 

[A2SG]

Obviously it didn't matter much but that verdict may also taken away in appeals...

You can always hope, I suppose. I just wouldn't advise holding your breath.

however I dont think Trump nor America cares

Why should he? He managed to commit 34 felonies without having to be held accountable for it. Heck, a portion of the electorate rewarded him for it!! Why should he change his criminal ways?

-- A2SG, he's proven himself to be above the law...as I'm sure he's always thought himself to be....

 

[A2SG]

The Trump University fraud and the Foundation fraud have all been legally taken care of.

Yup, and Trump was proven guilty in both cases. Just as he was proven guilty of fraud in civil court and criminal court for other offenses.

The NYS business fraud are completely and totally bogus. The only ones who don't believe those are bogus are probably only the left wing liberals.

Well, them...and everyone who viewed the evidence. You know, like the jury. The only ones who don't believe Trump was guilty of fraud haven't viewed the evidence.

It all comes down to the evidence.

But, for the sake of discussion. Let us assume that all of the progressive liberal attacks against President Trump are actually true. What does that say about Kamala Harris and the leadership of the Democratic Party which was roundly rejected by the vast majority of the voters in 31 states in the 2024 election?

Democrats are more often than not their own worst enemy. Democrats have been saying that for decades.

-- A2SG, no need to quote Will Rogers again.....

 

[Vambram]

Yup, and Trump was proven guilty in both cases. Just as he was proven guilty of fraud in civil court and criminal court for other offenses.


Well, them...and everyone who viewed the evidence. You know, like the jury. The only ones who don't believe Trump was guilty of fraud haven't viewed the evidence.

It all comes down to the evidence.


Democrats are more often than not their own worst enemy. Democrats have been saying that for decades.

-- A2SG, no need to quote Will Rogers again.....

The Democratic Party made a huge mistake when they weaponized lawfare against Donald Trump. As for the "evidence" in the 2024 court cases, most of that "evidence" is available to the public. And the majority of the voters soundly rejected that "evidence" as being factual.

 

[A2SG]

The Democratic Party made a huge mistake when they weaponized lawfare against Donald Trump.

The Democratic Party played no role in the prosecution of Donald Trump. Prosecutors at the state level did that. With evidence that proved his guilt.

As for the "evidence" in the 2024 court cases, most of that "evidence" is available to the public. And the majority of the voters soundly rejected that "evidence" as being factual.

Those who actually viewed it, like the jury, disagree.

I'd say that's what makes the difference. Those who view the evidence are convinced beyond a reasonable doubt of guilt; those who haven't continue to believe what they've believed all along, without questioning it.

But, hey....if you feel the evidence provided the court is factually incorrect, feel free to refute it here. Maybe you can succeed at that where Trump's hand-picked legal team failed to.

-- A2SG, I suppose stranger things have happened.....