Celebrities Call for Ban on Boiling Lobsters Because They Feel Pain, But Aborting Babies is Fine

[Tropical Wilds]

I think it is a millennial stunt in the gaming community.

... ... ... Wut...?

 

[Tropical Wilds]

I definitely favor Lobsters over Human Beings.... for Dinner.

EXACTLY. IT’S FUNNY BECAUSE THAT IS ALSO LITERALLY THE POINT.

 

[W2L]

Well, that I seriously cannot help you with.

You said to google it. I did and found nothing to support your assertion.

 

[Tropical Wilds]

You said to google it. I did and found nothing.

And as I said, that I cannot help you with. Horses led to water and all that.

 

[W2L]

And as I said, that I cannot help you with. Horses led to water and all that.

But you didnt lead me to water, because there was nothing there to support your assertion. It was a dry hole.

 

[kiwimac]

I asked you this in another thread but you never responded, - what rights DO they have if the right to life is not one of them ?

Differs from country to country, state to state. Here in New Zealand it can be summed up as follows;

"There have been differing interpretations internationally of whether the right to life applies to the unborn child (Jayawickrama, 2002). The ICCPR (International Covenant on Civil and Political Rights) declares that 'every human being' has the inherent right to life, while in respect of other rights. The expressions used are 'everyone', 'every person, every child' - or 'every citizen.'"
This use of different terminology has raised the question whether 'every human being' also includes the unborn child."


"This use of different terminology has raised the question whether 'every human being' has a more expansive meaning than usually attributed to 'every person'; in particular, whether it also includes the unborn child."

"At the national level this is determined generally by policy rather than by law, and an overwhelming practical consideration in many jurisdictions has been the need to preserve laws that provide for abortion (Jayawickrama, 2002). There have been differing views internationally on whether the right to life includes the right to die."

Source

Further:

Successive Court judgements noted that Parliament did not specify what those "rights of the unborn child" were. Nor had Parliament spelt out who could speak for the unborn child. Since Parliament had not defined the rights and who could speak for the unborn child, the Court could not do so either.

Source: ibid

 

[kiwimac]

The current abortion laws allow for humans in the womb to suffer painful deaths. We have entertainers lobbying their government to be 'humane' to lobsters. Again, the OP article is spot on.

You do realise that most abortions take place long before the foetus can fell anything? Moreover when a late-term abortion is needed the foetus is given a shot for pain before the process begins.

 

[W2L]

Moreover when a late-term abortion is needed the foetus is given a shot for pain before the process begins.

Tragic. It can feel pain and we kill it.

 

[JacksBratt]

They sit in their gated mansion preaching to the rest of us.

Yep.... like they know something we don't....

Problem is.. they are very influential to those that idolize them.

 

[JacksBratt]

Genesis 9:3 King James Version (KJV)
3 Every moving thing that liveth shall be meat for you; even as the green herb have I given you all things.


Where's the pot of boiling water.. bring on the lobster.


Animals are given to us by our God.. Long as the life they live is humane and the death is also humane.... we are not out of line...

 

[kiwimac]

Tragic. It can feel pain and we kill it.

You do know WHY late-term abortions occur don't you? They are never done for contraceptive reasons.

 

[kiwimac]

Genesis 9:3 King James Version (KJV)
3 Every moving thing that liveth shall be meat for you; even as the green herb have I given you all things.


Where's the pot of boiling water.. bring on the lobster.


Animals are given to us by our God.. Long as the life they live is humane and the death is also humane.... we are not out of line...

If you are going to quote the OT, you need to know that crustaceans are forbidden.

 

[W2L]

You do know WHY late-term abortions occur don't you? They are never done for contraceptive reasons.

Does that make it less tragic?

 

[redleghunter]

If you are going to quote the OT, you need to know that crustaceans are forbidden.

For consumption purposes.

 

[redleghunter]

You know, none of those signers brought up that they thought minorities feel pain... Obviously that means they’re racist.

Obviously

 

[redleghunter]

Differs from country to country, state to state. Here in New Zealand it can be summed up as follows;



Source

Further:

Source: ibid

Whoa:

"This use of different terminology has raised the question whether 'every human being' has a more expansive meaning than usually attributed to 'every person'; in particular, whether it also includes the unborn child."

Same has been debated in human history for African slaves and Jews.

 

[Nige55]

Differs from country to country, state to state. Here in New Zealand it can be summed up as follows;



Source

Further:

Source: ibid

So the answer is, they don't know & couldn't decide.
If the right to life is not a certainty, surely this would overshadow any other possible rights ?

 

[Nige55]

That is nice. So what have you done about it ?

All I can. And you ?

 

[JacksBratt]

If you are going to quote the OT, you need to know that crustaceans are forbidden.

Mark 7:19 English Standard Version (ESV)
19 since it enters not his heart but his stomach, and is expelled? (Thus he declared all foods clean.)

 

[Jonathan Walkerin]

All I can. And you ?

Just a bit less than that but always nice to see people who could not have done anything more.