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Discussion in 'Eschatology - Endtimes & Prophecy Forum' started by keras, Aug 21, 2018.

  1. keras

    keras Writer of Bible prophecy studies.

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    GET OFF MY THREAD.
    I have already asked nicely for people to cease doing thread diversion.

    Back to topic, here is an excerpt from a book written about how the world could be after a strike from a massive CME.

    Solar Flare, by Larry Burkett. Published 1995
    The solar winds striking earth carried billions of tons of supercharged electrical particles. The sheer mass of this flare ripped through the magnetic shield that normally protected Earth, bending and displacing the magnetosphere until it collapsed.

    At ground level where the force field was more protective, the consequences of this flare were delayed but not avoided. The first to go were the power grids. As the charged particles hit the power lines, the surge of electricity tripped the breakers off line. Inside the power stations themselves, operators worked frantically to get the grids back on line, but their electronic monitors flashed and burnt as the massive overload destroyed all electronic devices in its path.

    Perhaps the flare in 1872 was of a similar magnitude, but then there was not anywhere the same amount of electrical equipment around. This time, generators burned out, transformers exploded, radio and television station transmitters flashed and burned. Domestic appliances, anything plugged into the supply grid, were destroyed with a smell of acrid smoke. Vehicle electronics were disabled, making most modern cars useless.

    The scene from space would have appeared like a planet dying, as the lights flashed then went out, across the world, as the earth rotated to face the sun.

    The city was in ruins. It was like a scene from Beirut in the seventies. Torched and abandoned vehicles were still smoking. Many buildings were burned out, and shops smashed and looted. Armed individuals and groups roamed the streets, making it very difficult for those holed up in their homes to escape to the countryside.

    It was a unique event in history. Man had transformed the planet into an industrialized society, with modern communications, transport and conveniences and now, in a span of little more than a week, all that was just history. Electricity, perhaps mans greatest tool, was destroyed on planet earth and along with it mankind’s modern way of life. Quote.

    My comments:
    The Lord will use this means of judgement to destroy His enemies and to bring mankind to a place where everyone must recognize His omnipotence, although not all will give Him due reverence. His enemies, will be that alliance of nations and entities, who – at the moment of their attack against Israel – will be mostly wiped out by this Lord’s Day of vengeance and wrath – His Judgement of fire from the sun.

    Prophecies describing a Coronal Mass Ejection - Isaiah 30:26-30, Isaiah 66:15-17, Hebrews 10:27, Isaiah 29:5-6, Malachi 4:1, Deuteronomy 32:41-43, Psalms 50:1-6, Psalms 144:5-6.

    Prophecies against the attacking nations - Note in Psalm 144:7-8 Rescue me from the power of aliens, whose every word is worthless, every oath is false. The Islamic code of Al Takayya, means they can use any means of deceit against non Muslims. Psalms 83, Zechariah 12:1-9, Isaiah 33:10-12, Zephaniah 2:4-7.....at midday, Gaza will be destroyed.

    But the Lord’s righteous people have these promises -
    Isaiah 30:26...on that Day, I shall save My people.

    Ezekiel 28:25-26 When I execute Judgement on all of Israel’s scornful neighbours, then My people, all the [faithful Christian] Israelites, gathered from the nations, will live in the Land, undisturbed.

    Isaiah 63:4 I resolved on a Day of vengeance; the year for redeeming My own had come.
    Isaiah 52:6-12 On that Day, My people will know My Name....Go out, leave Babylon, keep yourselves pure, the Lord will guard and guide you. [ into the holy Land, Isaiah 35:1-10]
     
  2. BABerean2

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    I read Larry's book, "The Coming Economic Earthquake". It was very well done.
    However, his knowledge of physics does not compare to his knowledge of economics.


    It is not possible for a solar flare to completely collapse the earth's magnetic field, because the earth is a gigantic magnet.

    Can it bend the magnetic field? Yes, but it cannot go to zero unless the magnetism of the earth's iron core goes to zero.

    However, there is rock data to suggest that the magnetism of the earth's core can change, and flip, and even go to zero, over a long period of time.
    To the best of my knowledge, there has never been any connection made between these changes and solar flares.


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  3. keras

    keras Writer of Bible prophecy studies.

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    Larry Burkett, or anyone; including myself, can only guess at how dramatic and world changing the forthcoming Lord's Day of wrath by a massive CME will be.
    In the book 'Solar Flare', he just described the effects of the loss of electricity to our modern world. He omitted all the other prophesied effects; earthquakes, storms and tsunamis. Billions will die on that Day.
    As Isaiah 24:6, Jeremiah 25:33 says, and Isaiah 13:12 Humans will become scarce, more rare than fine gold.
     
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  4. Lost4words

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    So, Keras, when is this day of wrath coming?
     
  5. keras

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    You have a Bible?
    No one knows the day or the hour.....Matthew 24:36 This scripture does refer to the Lord's Day of wrath, the next prophesied event; because, several years later; when the Anti-Christ leader of the One World Govt sits himself in the Temple, Daniel 11:31, 2 Thess 2:4, Revelation 13:5, we will know that exactly 1260 days later Jesus will Return.

    However, we can know the season for the Lord to take action, Isaiah 42:14-15, and from the present world situation, esp in the Middle East.
    As a Christian Bible studier, you should not be in the dark about God's plans for His people. 1 Thessalonians 5:1-5
     
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  6. keras

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    Spaceweather.com September 3rd 2018

    159 YEARS AGO, A GEOMAGNETIC MEGA-STORM: Picture this: A billion-ton coronal mass ejection (CME) slams into Earth's magnetic field. Campers in the Rocky Mountains wake up in the middle of the night, thinking that the glow they see is sunrise. No, it's the Northern Lights. People in Cuba read their morning paper by the red illumination of aurora borealis. Earth is peppered by particles so energetic, they alter the chemistry of polar ice.

    Hard to believe? It really happened--exactly 159 years ago.
    As the day unfolded, the gathering storm electrified telegraph lines, shocking technicians and setting their telegraph papers on fire. The "Victorian Internet" was knocked offline. Magnetometers around the world recorded strong disturbances in the planetary magnetic field for more than a week.

    The cause of all this was an extraordinary solar flare witnessed the day before by British astronomer Richard Carrington. His sighting on Sept. 1, 1859, marked the discovery of solar flares and foreshadowed a new field of study: space weather. According to a NASA-funded study by the National Academy of Sciences, if a similar "Carrington Event" occurred today, it could cause substantial damage to society's high-tech infrastructure and require years for complete recovery.

    Could it happen again? Almost certainly. In a paper published just a few months ago, researchers from the University of Birmingham used Extreme Value Theory to estimate the average time between "Carrington-like flares." Their best answer: ~100 years. In other words, we may be overdue for a really big storm.
     
  7. Lost4words

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    Nature. These things are unpredictable.
     
  8. Seville90210

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    I hope you realize you just destroyed the post trib rapture theory!

    Jesus said of the rapture, no man knows the day or the hour yet you just told us how we'll know the day of the post trib rapture by counting the days (1260) from the time of the AoD until the second coming.


    Here's how Jesus describes the tribulation. A period of great destruction unlike anything that's ever happened in the past.

    And it will be so bad, no flesh would be saved unless He intervene.

    Matthew 24:21-22 New King James Version (NKJV)
    21 For then there will be great tribulation, such as has not been since the beginning of the world until this time, no, nor ever shall be. 22 And unless those days were shortened, no flesh would be saved; but for the elect’s sake those days will be shortened.

    Keras, there's been many far worst natural or conventional disasters on earth since the beginning of time than the Carrington event. WW1 or WW2 to name a few or how about the great flood in the days of Noah that destroyed everything except 8 souls.

    The great tribulation ahead is something that will at least kill 1/3 of mankind (Revelation 9:18), something far worst than a CME striking the earth.
     
  9. Lost4words

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    All in the past. 70AD.
     
  10. LittleLambofJesus

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    Sounds like a plan..........

    314. anaginosko an-ag-in-oce'-ko from 303 and 1097;
    to know again
    , i.e. (by extension) to read:--read.
    303. ana an-ah' a primary preposition and adverb; properly, up;
    1097. ginosko ghin-oce'-ko a prolonged form of a primary verb;
    to "know" (absolutely) in a great variety of applications and with many implications (as follow, with others not thus clearly expressed):.

    Matthew 24:15
    "Whenever then ye may be seeing the abomination of the desolation, the being declared thru Daniel the Prophet having-stood in a place, holy (the one-reading/anaginwskwn <314> (5723) let him be understanding!"
    Mark 13:14

    Whenever yet ye may be seeing the abomination of the desolation having stood the-where not it is binding, (the one reading/anaginwskwn <314> (5723) let him be understanding!,
    then the ones in the Judea let be fleeing! into the mountains.

    Revelation 1:3

    Happy/blessed the one reading/ana-ginwskwn <314> (5723) and the ones hearing the words of the prophecy and keepings the in it having been written,
    for the time is nigh[not 2000yrs later].


    http://www.kingdombiblestudies.org/lb/LB1.htm
    THE BOOK OF THE LIFE OF THE LAMB

    "And I stood upon the sand of the sea, and saw a beast rise up out of the sea, having seven heads and ten horns, and upon his heads the names of blasphemy. And all that dwell upon the earth shall worship him, whose names are not written in the book of life of the Lamb slain from the foundation of the world" (Rev. 13:1,8).

    According to the Emphatic Diaglott the correct rendering of the latter part of this passage is: "The Book of the Life of the Lamb."
    Now, what is meant by this term – THE BOOK OF THE LIFE OF THE LAMB? The wise man said, "...of the making of many books there is no end..." (Eccl. 12:12).
    The book stores are filled to overflowing today with all types of books dealing with every aspect of earthly life. Even in the church world there are books setting forth every kind of viewpoint relating to God, the Bible, doctrine, Christian experience, and church order.
    However the subject material of most of these books largely contains a message of religious tradition and spiritual death.

    But God is also producing a book – a book containing a message of life.
    For the past two millenniums God, by His Holy Spirit, has been writing portions of this Book in the minds and hearts of His people.
     
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  11. Handmaid for Jesus

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    You all do know that full preterism is not allowed on this forum...right?
     
  12. keras

    keras Writer of Bible prophecy studies.

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    There is no 'rapture to heaven' said to happen anywhere in the Bible. That idea, pre, mid, post or anytime, is just a false teaching and will never happen.
    When Jesus Returns, He will send out His angels to gather His people to where He is; in Jerusalem. 1 Thess 4:17, Matthew 24:31
    You have confused the terrible Day of the Lord's wrath; the Sixth Seal, with the Great Tribulation of the 7 Trumpets and 7 Bowls. They are separate events, years apart. Placing them together is messing with Revelation.

    Obviously you have not attempted to find out just how bad a big CME could be. The one prophesied will be of an unprecedented magnitude and will literally fulfil all the graphic prophesies about it.
     
  13. keras

    keras Writer of Bible prophecy studies.

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    So; we don't have a future? Things will just keep on like they are now forever?
    Are the Bible prophesies of no use to us?

    I do not buy that idea.
    Your statement is just unsupported rubbish.
     
  14. Lost4words

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    You read into scripture what you want. I don't see it like you do. You are fantasizing with you very own prophesies. Am I not allowed to disagree with you?
     
  15. Lost4words

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    It's not full preterism though. I believe Jesus will come again. Full preterism says that all has been done. I don't believe that all has been done.
     
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  16. keras

    keras Writer of Bible prophecy studies.

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    Be assured, God does have a Plan and we are about to become involved in it.

    With your posts LLoJ, I most often treat them as TLDR, we don't need long expositions on word meanings and as for your helivan; get rid of it. Plus your Rev 14:6 quote, that refers to the 144,000 who will proclaim the good news of the coming Kingdom. Proved by Isaiah 66:19
     
  17. Lost4words

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    Matthew 24:34

    'This generation'. Jesus was on about then, not now.
     
  18. Lost4words

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    Sorry Keras but why do YOU think only YOUR opinions / views / interpretations are correct and everyone else's is wrong?
     
  19. LittleLambofJesus

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    All 3 gospel accounts agree with thee.....
    https://www.christianforums.com/threads/this-generation-in-bible.8075362/

    http://www.greeknewtestament.com/index.htm

    Matthew 24:34
    Amen I am saying to ye, not no may be passing-away the generation, this-one, till ever all these may be becoming.

    amhn legw umin ou mh parelqh h genea auth ewV an panta tauta genhtai

    Mark 13:30
    Amen I am saying to ye not no may be passing-away the generation, this-one unto of which any all these may be becoming

    amhn legw umin oti ou mh parelqh h genea auth mecriV ou panta tauta genhtai

    Luke 21:32
    “Amen I am saying to ye, not no may be passing-away the generation , this-one, till ever all may be becoming.

    amhn legw umin oti ou mh parelqh h genea auth ewV an panta genhtai
     
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  20. Handmaid for Jesus

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    This video is interesting relating to catastrophism
     
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