Bullying

[Meshavrischika]

see, that's my point! Why wouldn't that be an option?
It seems to me that the bully has all the rights and the victim is being punished by not being able to attend school or ride the bus.
maybe i'm just being stupid. IDK

because you're required to PROVE that the bully is in fact bullying... (that whole presumed innocent thing rolls over into so much of society)

if you can prove it, it's not a problem. if you can't then by golly GET YOUR KID OUT OF THAT SITUATION... don't let them languish because of "rights" for goodness sake (not directed at you marezee)

 

[Meshavrischika]

see, that's my point! Why wouldn't that be an option?
It seems to me that the bully has all the rights and the victim is being punished by not being able to attend school or ride the bus.
maybe i'm just being stupid. IDK

because you're required to PROVE that the bully is in fact bullying... (that whole presumed innocent thing rolls over into so much of society)

if you can prove it, it's not a problem. if you can't then by golly GET YOUR KID OUT OF THAT SITUATION... don't let them languish because of "rights" for goodness sake (not directed at you marezee)

 

[JulySheMustFly]

Certainly I would want proper action taken toward the bully but apparently in some cases that fails. And if that fails I would certainly do whatever was needed to insure my child's physical and emotional safety. In keeping with the article, which I did read more of, this particular case was not simple bullying but regular physical assault. If the school is not willing or able to protect my child then I have the responsibility to take action to protect my child.

As for cyber charters this is a resource in our area. Clearly I don't know how it is outside of my own state.

And for some reason I feel it important to say that my children do attend a public school.

 

[marezee]

because you're required to PROVE that the bully is in fact bullying... (that whole presumed innocent thing rolls over into so much of society)

if you can prove it, it's not a problem. if you can't then by golly GET YOUR KID OUT OF THAT SITUATION... don't let them languish because of "rights" for goodness sake (not directed at you marezee)

according to the article, they did have proof.
but nothing was done. that seems a bit odd.

 

[Meshavrischika]

according to the article, they did have proof.
but nothing was done. that seems a bit odd.

then they didn't address it properly (i.e. press charges or something - it's not a school issue when not at school) or they didn't push hard enough. there has to be something missing in the story in regard to what they did or didn't do, or in regard to what the police did or didn't do (and then I'd have been at the news station and at the district attys raising all heck)

 

[Meshavrischika]

according to the article, they did have proof.
but nothing was done. that seems a bit odd.

then they didn't address it properly (i.e. press charges or something - it's not a school issue when not at school) or they didn't push hard enough. there has to be something missing in the story in regard to what they did or didn't do, or in regard to what the police did or didn't do (and then I'd have been at the news station and at the district attys raising all heck)

 

[marezee]

then they didn't address it properly (i.e. press charges or something - it's not a school issue when not at school) or they didn't push hard enough. there has to be something missing in the story in regard to what they did or didn't do, or in regard to what the police did or didn't do (and then I'd have been at the news station and at the district attys raising all heck)

absolutely!

the first time this boy was bullied was in the bathroom at a middle school.
it seems the article is making it sound like he has been bullied for years.
why then would his parents choose to stay in that school district? they say in the article that moving was not an option.
I would have moved if i could have.

 

[Meshavrischika]

absolutely!

the first time this boy was bullied was in the bathroom at a middle school.
it seems the article is making it sound like he has been bullied for years.
why then would his parents choose to stay in that school district? they say in the article that moving was not an option.
I would have moved if i could have.

around here you can change schools... either way... DO SOMETHING for goodness sake

 

[Leanna]

I don't have anything against homeschoolers. Really.

But everytime I see a "This is why I choose to homeschool!" or "This is why homeschooling is the only way to go" type of statement, it makes me cringe a bit.

I would say that IF your child is experiencing bullying or other social problems at school, then fine, quit your job and start homeschooling them. But I don't think it has to be a case where you homeschool out of fear that your child MIGHT become a victim of bullying or sexual advances from their teacher (I've seen this said in another thread).

If you were to extend the logic used by some of the homeschooler statements that I've seen, one would then expect their child to complete a university degree through correspondence and then get a job (if they choose to work) working out of their homes.

I understand what you are saying. However, you could say that this is why I am reluctant to put my precious children under the authority of someone else to begin with. I don't see why I should trust them with my precious children, and I wouldn't know about sexual advances and bullying until after its already been said and done, and some victim's parents never hear about it. I want to be more involved than that, in picking who and when I put my children under other people's authority and I do not believe that the school bus and 6 hours with a teacher I don't know is factoring into that picture.

 

[Leanna]

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/23807286/

Well now we know what's wrong with the parents.... instead of protecting their son like good parents, they want to sue and make money off of their son's trauma.

 

[Leanna]

Attempt number 2 to put this post at the end so it doesn't get lost....
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/23807286/

Well now we know what's wrong with the parents.... instead of protecting their son like good parents, they want to sue and make money off of their son's trauma.

 

[Birbitt]

I don't have anything against homeschoolers. Really.

But everytime I see a "This is why I choose to homeschool!" or "This is why homeschooling is the only way to go" type of statement, it makes me cringe a bit.

I would say that IF your child is experiencing bullying or other social problems at school, then fine, quit your job and start homeschooling them. But I don't think it has to be a case where you homeschool out of fear that your child MIGHT become a victim of bullying or sexual advances from their teacher (I've seen this said in another thread).

If you were to extend the logic used by some of the homeschooler statements that I've seen, one would then expect their child to complete a university degree through correspondence and then get a job (if they choose to work) working out of their homes.

I am sorry you saw my post that way it is by no means what I meant....I actually choose to home school for many reasons....but articles like that one make me glad I've made that choice, and just reaffirm to me that I've made the best choice I can for my children! I did not in any way quit my job to Home School I simply changed my schedule and so that between me and hubby we have 4 days to teach, the circumstances that God has given us makes it possible for us to home school, we also chose this option because of the quality of the schools available to our children. That was probably my fault for the way I phrased my statement, and I'm sorry for the confusion.

 

[MinervaMac]

Attempt number 2 to put this post at the end so it doesn't get lost....
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/23807286/

Well now we know what's wrong with the parents.... instead of protecting their son like good parents, they want to sue and make money off of their son's trauma.

I don't see it that way, it looks like suing was the only route left to them after appealing to the school didn't work. It seems sometimes that threatening to sue has more power then threatening to go to the police, people are more afraid of losing all their money then they are of getting a criminal record.

If the boy wins his case I think it will encourage more parents of would-be-bullies to put a stop to their child's behaviour, and to schools to be more effective in their anti-bullying policies.

 

[Redguard]

I am sorry you saw my post that way it is by no means what I meant....I actually choose to home school for many reasons....but articles like that one make me glad I've made that choice, and just reaffirm to me that I've made the best choice I can for my children! I did not in any way quit my job to Home School I simply changed my schedule and so that between me and hubby we have 4 days to teach, the circumstances that God has given us makes it possible for us to home school, we also chose this option because of the quality of the schools available to our children. That was probably my fault for the way I phrased my statement, and I'm sorry for the confusion.

No worries.

 

[GolfingMom]

I don't see it that way, it looks like suing was the only route left to them after appealing to the school didn't work. It seems sometimes that threatening to sue has more power then threatening to go to the police, people are more afraid of losing all their money then they are of getting a criminal record.

If the boy wins his case I think it will encourage more parents of would-be-bullies to put a stop to their child's behaviour, and to schools to be more effective in their anti-bullying policies.

Good point. I agree.

 

[Leanna]

I don't see it that way, it looks like suing was the only route left to them after appealing to the school didn't work. It seems sometimes that threatening to sue has more power then threatening to go to the police, people are more afraid of losing all their money then they are of getting a criminal record.

If the boy wins his case I think it will encourage more parents of would-be-bullies to put a stop to their child's behaviour, and to schools to be more effective in their anti-bullying policies.

So if your kid was getting bullied you would let it happen for 5 years and then sue them? Heck no. I would have gotten my kid OUT of that situation because more important than "proving my point" or taking the time to appeal to the school would be the well being of my child, who's coming home with bruises from getting beat up. I think the parents were negligent.

 

[Avatar]

So if your kid was getting bullied you would let it happen for 5 years and then sue them? Heck no. I would have gotten my kid OUT of that situation because more important than "proving my point" or taking the time to appeal to the school would be the well being of my child, who's coming home with bruises from getting beat up. I think the parents were negligent.

I agree. Our kids were being bullied daily when lived in Northern Quebec, and we couldn't get teachers or parents to stop it. So we left, moved to Nova Scotia. The kids are so much happier here.

 

[Redguard]

I agree. Our kids were being bullied daily when lived in Northern Quebec, and we couldn't get teachers or parents to stop it. So we left, moved to Nova Scotia. The kids are so much happier here.

The 8 of them should've just formed into Voltron and mop up the school yard with those Northern Quebecois.

 

[JulySheMustFly]

So if your kid was getting bullied you would let it happen for 5 years and then sue them? Heck no. I would have gotten my kid OUT of that situation because more important than "proving my point" or taking the time to appeal to the school would be the well being of my child, who's coming home with bruises from getting beat up. I think the parents were negligent.

Agreed.

I agree. Our kids were being bullied daily when lived in Northern Quebec, and we couldn't get teachers or parents to stop it. So we left, moved to Nova Scotia. The kids are so much happier here.

Sorry that happened with your kids but way to go making the changes needed to create a positive environment for your children.

 

[MinervaMac]

So if your kid was getting bullied you would let it happen for 5 years and then sue them? Heck no. I would have gotten my kid OUT of that situation because more important than "proving my point" or taking the time to appeal to the school would be the well being of my child, who's coming home with bruises from getting beat up. I think the parents were negligent.

What if they couldn't move house to get their child into a new school because of lack of money or because of a job? What if they both work and couldn't afford for one to quit?