Another Argument Against Flat Earth

[Strathos]

I don't.

Many who agree with you do.

 

[Bungle_Bear]

Can you prove it?

Yes. There are points in the first video where there is an obvious convex curvature, and points where there is even concave curvature. How would that be possible if the video had not been altered?

 

[Bungle_Bear]

If an organization or individual is caught in fraud, do you continue to trust them?

Personally I don't, but the evidence is that many people do. Look at those who trust the Church - that has been caught in fraud many times yet people still trust it. Weird, huh?

 

[Zetetica]

Many who agree with you do.

Some do. What can I do about it?

 

[Zetetica]

Yes. There are points in the first video where there is an obvious convex curvature, and points where there is even concave curvature. How would that be possible if the video had not been altered?

This isn't a result of post video manipulation, it's a result of the lens being used. You will see the same effect on numerous SpaceX launch videos as well as the Tesla Roadster footage.

 

[Zetetica]

Personally I don't, but the evidence is that many people do. Look at those who trust the Church - that has been caught in fraud many times yet people still trust it. Weird, huh?

If you refer to the Vatican or any Catholic church, I don't trust either. If not, please be more specific.

 

[Bungle_Bear]

This isn't a result of post video manipulation, it's a result of the lens being used. You will see the same effect on numerous SpaceX launch videos as well as the Tesla Roadster footage.

That's your claim. Mine is that the video has been altered. Since your claim relies on physics to be correct and mine relies on conspiracy and vested interests I win.

 

[Zetetica]

and mine relies on conspiracy and vested interests I win.

I don't understand.

 

[Bungle_Bear]

If you refer to the Vatican or any Catholic church, I don't trust either. If not, please be more specific.

Oh, there are numerous examples of many denominations being caught out, not just the Catholic church.

 

[Bungle_Bear]

I don't understand.

Flat earthers quite happily reject physics and claim conspiracy as an explanation where it suits them. So why shouldn't I be allowed to do the same?

 

[Zetetica]

Flat earthers quite happily reject physics and claim conspiracy as an explanation where it suits them. So why shouldn't I be allowed to do the same?

I don't "happily reject physics".

Do you believe in the theory of gravitation?

 

[Bungle_Bear]

I don't "happily reject physics".

Sure you do. You just don't want to accept that you do.

Do you believe in the theory of gravitation?

No. Do you?

 

[Lazarus Short]

If an organization or individual is caught in fraud, do you continue to trust them?

Oh, are you referring to Never A Straight Answer (NASA)?

 

[Zetetica]

Sure you do. You just don't want to accept that you do.

No. Do you?

I don't, "happily deny physics" and no, I don't believe in the theory of gravitation.

Why don't you accept it?

 

[Zetetica]

Oh, are you referring to Never A Straight Answer (NASA)?

I think, "Never A Straight Answer" fits them perfectly.

 

[Lazarus Short]

Those videos have been altered to remove the curvature.

Well, that was easy

The apparent curvature depends greatly on the focal length of the camera lens used. I have seen vids of horizons from space or near space that actually bend from convex to concave.

 

[Lazarus Short]

Flat earthers quite happily reject physics and claim conspiracy as an explanation where it suits them. So why shouldn't I be allowed to do the same?

That borders on special pleading.

 

[Bungle_Bear]

That borders on special pleading.

Yes it does, doesn't it?

 

[Bungle_Bear]

I don't, "happily deny physics" and no, I don't believe in the theory of gravitation.

So you're unhappy to deny physics? The obvious question, then, is why do you do it?

Why don't you accept it?

Two obvious points to make here:

1. I said that I don't believe, not that I don't accept. There's a very important difference in meaning.
2. There is more than one theory of gravitation. Which one are you referring to?

 

[Zetetica]

So you're unhappy to deny physics? The obvious question, then, is why do you do it?


Two obvious points to make here:

1. I said that I don't believe, not that I don't accept. There's a very important difference in meaning.
2. There is more than one theory of gravitation. Which one are you referring to?

1. I suspect you claim to know then, rather than believe?

2. Einstein's theory of general relativity.