Hi Prophecy Countdown,
We will have to get something straight here. I am not defending nor promoting preterism. I couldn't care less about this ism or that 'ist'.
I deal with the bible only.
You list reams of cut and paste bible verses and assume they prove your case. I told you before I have no problems fitting any of this into my understanding. If these verses contradicted my understanding, I would change that understanding, it is that simple.
So here is the verses in question again.
17For our light and momentary troubles are achieving for us an eternal glory that far outweighs them all. 18So we fix our eyes not on what is seen, but on what is unseen. For what is seen is temporary, but what is unseen is eternal.
So we fix our eyes on what is unseen. Gee, that makes no sense why look at what can't be seen?
BUT hey the next sentence clears things up.. what is seen is temporary..things like Taco Time and storm clouds in the west. What it means is that what is visible or observed by the eye is temporary ( a rose blooms, you see it, but it is only blooming temporary)
Next, what is unseen is eternal...why would the sentence be necessary if it was to mean...things that haven't happened yet, you can't see...Gee, would there be a need to tell somebody that, are there people that dumb in this world? Just think...Hey Bert, you can't see that because it hasn't happened yet...thats a no-brainer. Your argument is plain no-where.
You wrote:
Preterists use the term unseen as meaning invisible.
The problem I have with that usage, is when it is applied to His second advent.
As far as the preterist problem, log into a preterist site and they will help you. I won't , it is not my concern.
Why can the second coming of Christ not be invisible?
Can you point out three biblical verses where it states that Jesus will return physically to earth? I use three because anybody who comes up with verse interps like you do will try anything.
To be fair if you put up three that say anything close, I'll put up six that says He deals only in the spiritual realm.
Justme
We will have to get something straight here. I am not defending nor promoting preterism. I couldn't care less about this ism or that 'ist'.
I deal with the bible only.
You list reams of cut and paste bible verses and assume they prove your case. I told you before I have no problems fitting any of this into my understanding. If these verses contradicted my understanding, I would change that understanding, it is that simple.
So here is the verses in question again.
17For our light and momentary troubles are achieving for us an eternal glory that far outweighs them all. 18So we fix our eyes not on what is seen, but on what is unseen. For what is seen is temporary, but what is unseen is eternal.
So we fix our eyes on what is unseen. Gee, that makes no sense why look at what can't be seen?
BUT hey the next sentence clears things up.. what is seen is temporary..things like Taco Time and storm clouds in the west. What it means is that what is visible or observed by the eye is temporary ( a rose blooms, you see it, but it is only blooming temporary)
Next, what is unseen is eternal...why would the sentence be necessary if it was to mean...things that haven't happened yet, you can't see...Gee, would there be a need to tell somebody that, are there people that dumb in this world? Just think...Hey Bert, you can't see that because it hasn't happened yet...thats a no-brainer. Your argument is plain no-where.
You wrote:
Preterists use the term unseen as meaning invisible.
The problem I have with that usage, is when it is applied to His second advent.
As far as the preterist problem, log into a preterist site and they will help you. I won't , it is not my concern.
Why can the second coming of Christ not be invisible?
Can you point out three biblical verses where it states that Jesus will return physically to earth? I use three because anybody who comes up with verse interps like you do will try anything.
To be fair if you put up three that say anything close, I'll put up six that says He deals only in the spiritual realm.
Justme
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