10 Scientific Facts Evolution is Wrong

[AV1611VET]

Why would you thank God ...

Luke 10:21 In that hour Jesus rejoiced in spirit, and said, I thank thee, O Father, Lord of heaven and earth, that thou hast hid these things from the wise and prudent, and hast revealed them unto babes: even so, Father; for so it seemed good in thy sight.

Some things are hidden from the [Homo] sapiens.

 

[AV1611VET]

-- so if Malel appeared to them and claimed to speak on God's behalf,

... he should be ignored.

Hebrews 1:1 God, who at sundry times and in divers manners spake in time past unto the fathers by the prophets,
Hebrews 1:2 Hath in these last days spoken unto us by his Son, whom he hath appointed heir of all things, by whom also he made the worlds;

 

[TLK Valentine]

... he should be ignored.

Hebrews 1:1 God, who at sundry times and in divers manners spake in time past unto the fathers by the prophets,
Hebrews 1:2 Hath in these last days spoken unto us by his Son, whom he hath appointed heir of all things, by whom also he made the worlds;

So angels should be ignored when they speak to people?

 

[Queller]

Luke 10:21 In that hour Jesus rejoiced in spirit, and said, I thank thee, O Father, Lord of heaven and earth, that thou hast hid these things from the wise and prudent, and hast revealed them unto babes: even so, Father; for so it seemed good in thy sight.

Some things are hidden from the [Homo] sapiens.

Well, if nothing else, at least you acknowledge that your version of God is a deceiver.

 

[Ophiolite]

Here are ten scientific facts that evolution is wrong:

1. Birds prove natural selection is naturally wrong.

Nah. Birds are really poor at debating, so anything you think they proved was doubtless wrong.

2. Species without a link.

It is a sad fact that most species have no internet connection, but that hardly disproves evolution.

3. Missing inferior evolutionary branches.

No, the evolutionary branches to Intelligent Design advocates and Young Earth Creationists are well established.

4. Single cell complexity.

Prima facie evidence why abiogenesis is irrelevant to evolution.

5. Human egg and sperm.

Go on. Surprise me.

6. DNA error checking.

Gosh, who would have thought it. A process that discourages mutations is actually a key part of the whole evolutionary process. Yet you refuse to believe your God could be that clever. He's going to be really [bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse]ed off with you.

7. Chaos from organization.

Yes, you have that bass ackwards.

8. Chromosome count.

When you don't actually understand something it will be much less embarrassing if you just remain silent.

9. Origin of matter and stars.

Damn, you've got me. The theory of evolution not only fails to explain the origin of matter and stars, but worse still, it fails to provide an ascent schedule for divers in order to avoid the bends. Which old Testament Book is that in again?

10. Peanut butter..

That's the only one that makes sense.

 

[Usus Vox Tractus]

Well, if nothing else, at least you acknowledge that your version of God is a deceiver.

In the same manner a parent hides the car keys and a gun from an inexperienced child, so to does God hides Himself and the latent powers of our souls until we are quite ready to wield them with wisdom and conscience.

We are veiled for our own protection...if you plant an acorn in the sky, the sun will bake it out. It must be covered until it unfolds from the inside out the necessary organs to metabolize the light. These organs are developed in the darkness.

 

[Usus Vox Tractus]

Originally Posted by AV1611VET

10. Peanut butter..
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Quote Ophiolite: That's the only one that makes sense.


Peanuts: You can eat them, you can run a diesel engine off the oil, with them you can employ an elephant or laugh it up with them in the gallery. Is there anything they can't do?

God is Gracious!

 

[bhsmte]

In the same manner a parent hides the car keys and a gun from an inexperienced child, so to does God hides Himself and the latent powers of our souls until we are quite ready to wield them with wisdom and conscience.

We are veiled for our own protection...if you plant an acorn in the sky, the sun will bake it out. It must be covered until it unfolds from the inside out the necessary organs to metabolize the light. These organs are developed in the darkness.

You are very good at rationalizing, to make the story fit.

 

[Usus Vox Tractus]

You are very good at rationalizing, to make the story fit.

I'm also good at noticing the natural biologic development of living things. Like a relationship with God is; a living thing.

I have also had a few close encounters with said God; In one of them I peeked when I said I wouldn't and nearly incinerated myself. I know why He is referred to as an all-consuming fire.

God is not just an idea, not just the Eternal Abode, not just the source of all being, matter, and space-time...God is the most Real thing there is.

Atomic wave form matter (us and the rest of creation) is 99.99999999 empty space. God is like an infinite ocean of quark matter, an infinitely superconductive Fermi Liquid trillions of times denser and hotter than what we call solid and hot. It would consume all atomic matter on contact. In it there is no form or empty space. It's full of God, there is no room for anything else. A Universe is an "ex nihilio" void bubble created within the infinite ocean of God.




The source of life for most all creatures on earth is our sun, correct? What would life be like if we could reach out and touch it? What happens if we stare into it for too long? Is it not good that it is far away and veiled from us by the atmosphere and EM field? So it is with the Power that births infinite universes.

 

[Ophiolite]

Atomic wave form matter (us and the rest of creation) is 99.99999999 empty space. God is like an infinite ocean of quark matter, an infinitely superconductive Fermi Liquid trillions of times denser and hotter than what we call solid and hot. It would consume all atomic matter on contact. In it there is no form or empty space. It's full of God, there is no room for anything else. A Universe is an "ex nihilio" void bubble created within the infinite ocean of God.

So all the other religious people who have a different view of what God is are wrong?

 

[Usus Vox Tractus]

So all the other religious people who have a different view of what God is are wrong?

It is certainly different from those that assert God has no physical, material aspect. But tell me how many creation stories begin with a limitless watery chaos that is vibrated in some manner for void and light to appear?

Shiva is described in one of his God forms as a vertical pillar of fire that has no top or bottom. Vishnu is said to rest on a giant serpent coiled up upon the infinite ocean of bliss. The uncoiling of his body creates the universes, the coiling back up destroys them. Quark matter is many orders of magnitude more strongly coiled than atomic matter.

But this is describing God in the Highest, before creation. "Allah", "God the Father", "YHVH" level. This is not describing what God becomes inside a universe. Like white light is divided to make the perfect rainbow; God self divides in a very specific manner to make a universe... and white light is found nowhere within the rainbow.


Is there any specific cultural portrayal of God you would like to explore?

 

[Nithavela]

Wow. I spotted the darwin quotemine in 2 seconds.

 

[bhsmte]

I'm also good at noticing the natural biologic development of living things. Like a relationship with God is; a living thing.

I have also had a few close encounters with said God; In one of them I peeked when I said I wouldn't and nearly incinerated myself. I know why He is referred to as an all-consuming fire.

God is not just an idea, not just the Eternal Abode, not just the source of all being, matter, and space-time...God is the most Real thing there is.

Atomic wave form matter (us and the rest of creation) is 99.99999999 empty space. God is like an infinite ocean of quark matter, an infinitely superconductive Fermi Liquid trillions of times denser and hotter than what we call solid and hot. It would consume all atomic matter on contact. In it there is no form or empty space. It's full of God, there is no room for anything else. A Universe is an "ex nihilio" void bubble created within the infinite ocean of God.




The source of life for most all creatures on earth is our sun, correct? What would life be like if we could reach out and touch it? What happens if we stare into it for too long? Is it not good that it is far away and veiled from us by the atmosphere and EM field? So it is with the Power that births infinite universes.

Nearly incinerated yourself?

Did you suffer burns?

 

[Usus Vox Tractus]

Nearly incinerated yourself?

Did you suffer burns?

No this was while out of body.

You know when you first wake up in the morning and someone tosses open a shade to let the sun shine directly into your eyes? It was like that only the sun was standing a few feet away from me.

After a conversation in man form, I asked to see Him in his true form. He said I was not ready. I said "please, I'll even close me eyes, just let me feel your true form." He agreed.

And so I closed my eyes, he changed, and darkness turned to light as I could nearly see through my eyelids. I could feel a steady wind coming from Him blowing through me. I peeked. What I then saw could only be described as an unending atomic bomb explosion in the shape of a man. Like a white hole in space in the shape of a man, firing unstoppable energy and force outwards in all directions. It was all awe.

Then a booming voice from all around said. "Be careful, you are burning creation." which I understood to mean me.

I closed my eyes and apologized. He laughed and resumed a human form. A black man.



That was about it. =)

Another time I encountered God in spirit, She appeared as the face of the most beautiful and loving woman and it took up half the sky. I "eeked" and covered my eyes real quick, she chuckled and left. I wasn't ready again.

 

[DogmaHunter]

I have also had a few close encounters with said God; In one of them I peeked when I said I wouldn't and nearly incinerated myself. I know why He is referred to as an all-consuming fire.

This sounds pretty "out there". I wanted to say "insane" tbh.

God is not just an idea, not just the Eternal Abode, not just the source of all being, matter, and space-time...God is the most Real thing there is.

Atomic wave form matter (us and the rest of creation) is 99.99999999 empty space. God is like an infinite ocean of quark matter, an infinitely superconductive Fermi Liquid trillions of times denser and hotter than what we call solid and hot. It would consume all atomic matter on contact. In it there is no form or empty space. It's full of God, there is no room for anything else. A Universe is an "ex nihilio" void bubble created within the infinite ocean of God.

Word salad.

The source of life for most all creatures on earth is our sun, correct?

For most; probably. Not all though. Not all at all.

What would life be like if we could reach out and touch it? What happens if we stare into it for too long? Is it not good that it is far away and veiled from us by the atmosphere and EM field?

What if the pond where the frog lives was a desert like the Sahara? Is it not good that the pond is the way it is for the frog so that the frog can live there?

Teleological fallacy.

So it is with the Power that births infinite universes.

Evidence?

 

[DogmaHunter]

After a conversation in man form, I asked to see Him in his true form. He said I was not ready. I said "please, I'll even close me eyes, just let me feel your true form." He agreed.

And so I closed my eyes, he changed, and darkness turned to light as I could nearly see through my eyelids. I could feel a steady wind coming from Him blowing through me. I peeked. What I then saw could only be described as an unending atomic bomb explosion in the shape of a man. Like a white hole in space in the shape of a man, firing unstoppable energy and force outwards in all directions. It was all awe.

Then a booming voice from all around said. "Be careful, you are burning creation." which I understood to mean me.

I closed my eyes and apologized. He laughed and resumed a human form. A black man.


That was about it. =)

Another time I encountered God in spirit, She appeared as the face of the most beautiful and loving woman and it took up half the sky. I "eeked" and covered my eyes real quick, she chuckled and left. I wasn't ready again.

Errr.... This does not sound very healthy.

 

[Usus Vox Tractus]

Errr.... This does not sound very healthy.

And what is your metric for "health"?

I did not hallucinate these things while in body. I have gone out of body by my own volition, and have been taken out and shown things by more powerful beings.

 

[Usus Vox Tractus]

This sounds pretty "out there". I wanted to say "insane" tbh.

Would you say the world at large is a good measure of sanity?

Word salad.

Was I unclear about the compact spatial nature of quark matter vs atomic matter? Or the comparison of God similarly to the universe?


For most; probably. Not all though. Not all at all.

What happens to the earth and life when the heliopause is gone and we are exposed to cosmic particle winds?

What if the pond where the frog lives was a desert like the Sahara? Is it not good that the pond is the way it is for the frog so that the frog can live there?

Try make more sense.

Teleological fallacy.

No. Causal biological development.

Evidence?

The scientific evidence based method is in adequate to explore these places. Other methods are required. Here is what the physics department of the university of Oregon has to say: unification, spacetime foam, quantum vacuum, quantum fluctuations

Physics of the early Universe is at the boundary of astronomy and philosophy since we do not currently have a complete theory that unifies all the fundamental forces of Nature at the moment of Creation. In addition, there is no possibility of linking observation or experimentation of early Universe physics to our theories (i.e. it's not possible to `build' another Universe). Our theories are rejected or accepted based on simplicity and aesthetic grounds, plus their power of prediction to later times, rather than an appeal to empirical results. This is a very difference way of doing science from previous centuries of research.

 

[Nithavela]

Why are all people with the oneness icon crazy, and where do I sign up?

 

[RichardT]

And what is your metric for "health"?

I did not hallucinate these things while in body. I have gone out of body by my own volition, and have been taken out and shown things by more powerful beings.

I know what you mean. Once you've seen this sort of thing it's kind of hard for it to be unseen. I'm supposed to be rational and here I am experiencing something strange that seems more real than real.