Darwinian evolution - still a theory in crisis.

[Hans Blaster]

You are correct. Many atheists do not have any inner pain. Some do, but many don't.
The reason a lot of people proclaim to be atheists is that they are doing something that God would not like. Maybe sex outside of marrage or something like that. If they acknowledged that there was a God, they would then be accountable to Him.

As I did with the other poster take a look at that language: "proclaim to be atheists". We are. It is not a claim. We don't believe in God just the same as you do.

Also, some are simply blind right from the word "go". Even though they see evidence of God in creation, they are blind to it.

Being 'blind" to this "obvious" sign of God's handiwork in Nature was no impediment to believing.

This may be because Satan has blinded the eyes of those who do not believe or the may have been indoctrinated into evolution from an early age at school

When I was in school I had no idea creationists like you were still around.

Correct. Because narrow is the gate and difficult is the way which leads to life, and there are few who find it.

Sigh.

From my viewpoint, the cartoon should have been turned around. Atheist hate it when we defend the bible.

Oh, to make you defend it, but alas, the powers that be won't let me make the necessary arguments.

That is good. Same evidence but different world views. Just like evolution.

Evolution is a science, not a worldview. (And creationism is theology, not science.)

 

[Fervent]

As I did with the other poster take a look at that language: "proclaim to be atheists". We are. It is not a claim. We don't believe in God just the same as you do.

You seem to be missing an important necessary inequality of positions that creates this sort of language. As believers, we have to take the Bible as authoritative to at least some degree and within it there is Romans 1 which states that those who won't have God as God are not simply personally suspicious but are suppressors of the truth. So the question for the believer is who's word are they going to take more seriously, the atheist who may or may not be fully conscious of the underlying psychological issues at play in their disbelief, or God. So that language is naturally going to be an issue and we are, on some level, expressing suspicion towards your ability to make appraisals or honestly express yourself.

Oh, to make you defend it, but alas, the powers that be won't let me make the necessary arguments.

More than likely your idea of defending it, and that posters, are two very different things.

 

[partinobodycular]

The reason a lot of people proclaim to be atheists is that they are doing something that God would not like.

I really, really doubt this. Personally, I think that what atheists are actually rejecting is the arrogance and self-superiority of many of those who claim to speak in his name. They may see no reason to believe in God, but they certainly have no reason to blatantly reject Him either, at least not until someone tries to tell them that they're going to hell for doing so. Then they're pretty apt to get in your face about it.

As such they're not anti-God, they're just anti-self-righteousness. So the solution is simple, stop being self-righteous. Unfortunately a lot of Christians find that practically impossible to do. It's as if it's the only way that they know of to prove to us degenerates just how fervently they believe... as if either we or God is supposed to be impressed.

But if God is impressed by His followers acting like jerks, then that's reason enough to question whether He's worthy of the title. Better no God at all than a God like that.

 

[trophy33]

The reason a lot of people proclaim to be atheists is that they are doing something that God would not like. Maybe sex outside of marrage or something like that. If they acknowledged that there was a God, they would then be accountable to Him.

I do not think it works this way. Most Christians had sex before/outside of marriage and they will just say to God "forgive me" and repeat it again. There is no reason to proclaim there is no God, for that.

 

[Hans Blaster]

You seem to be missing an important necessary inequality of positions that creates this sort of language.

I am aware of the inequality. See, we atheists actually know what we believe and don't believe, as just like you believers do about yourselves, it is in our own minds. Our own understanding of ourselves (as is for your of yourselves) is superior to any other persons opinion or book.

As believers, we have to take the Bible as authoritative to at least some degree and within it there is Romans 1 which states that those who won't have God as God are not simply personally suspicious but are suppressors of the truth.

I am not impressed by the fanatical opinions of Paul of Tarsus.

So the question for the believer is who's word are they going to take more seriously, the atheist who may or may not be fully conscious of the underlying psychological issues at play in their disbelief, or God. So that language is naturally going to be an issue and we are, on some level, expressing suspicion towards your ability to make appraisals or honestly express yourself.

Someday, I hope you'll realize how rude and condescending this "position" is and you'll finally accept people for who they say they are.

More than likely your idea of defending it, and that posters, are two very different things.

No doubt, but it is such a problematic and unbelievable text.