Trump bringing China to their knees ( China needs trade deal)

Aldebaran said:

Even at the lowest of his presidency, it's still better than during Obama's presidency. Same goes for the stock market.

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rjs330 said:

Interesting that true facts are hatred. Hatred from the left is apparent. They criticise everything about the man. The way he looks, the way he talks, they criticise him for talking bad about Kim Jon, then they criticise him for talking nice about him. They blame him for everything, but give him credit for nothing. When Trump lies( and he does) they criticise him for that. Then he speaks the truth and they criticise him for that.

That is hatred. Plain and simple.

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This is largely a backlash to the incessantly uncritical, error-prone, and often downright-idiotic prostration to which the TrumpFans frequently commit themselves in service of their Gilded Leader.

The reality is that the economy is going well. The trends started well before Trump took office and Trump hasn't yet screwed things up. The tax cut gave the economy a short-term boost, which the tariffs may eat into in the future. Predicting Trump would tank everything was just as stupid as treating him as some sort of economic savior the way some much of his fanbase has done, acting as if November 2016 saw us all standing in bread lines and his inauguration somehow called down manna from heaven and ushered us into our Best Lives Now.

The truth is that it's still too early to tell how a lot of this stuff is going to shake out. He's been in office about 2.5 years and a lot of policies take a long time to take effect. But even some of the links you guys have posted in this thread have been undermined to some degree by more recent data:

U.S. adds just 75,000 jobs in May and wage growth slows in warning sign for economy

Warning sign: Manufacturers expand in May at slowest pace in 2 1/2 years, ISM finds

May job growth was slow and manufacturing expansion has retreated back to where it was before he was elected. Is that indicative of a coming slowdown? I don't know, but it should at least put the brakes on the proselytizing of the "Trump Great, Obama Terrible" ideology.

Aldebaran said:

Then why are you concerned about it? The agreement is to keep Un from going any further in developing nukes and the long range missiles that would make them a threat.

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I'm concerned because it is not working.

Aldebaran said:

Has Un launched any more long range missiles or set off any more nukes since the agreement?

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No, he has not. Has Un stopped developing nukes and long range missiles?

I'm glad he is the way they treat animals is crazy .....boiling dogs alive .....brother that some crazy ..........

Aldebaran said:

Developing would involve testing.

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Testing is hardly the only part of the development process.

I was going to point out that we've been developing nukes with just computer simulations, and then I learned that we were testing nukes as recently as 1992.

List of United States' nuclear weapons tests - Wikipedia

Aldebaran said:

Developing would involve testing.

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Are you seriously going to try to claim that because NK has not done further full functionality testing they are no longer developing nuclear weapons?

Belk said:

Are you seriously going to try to claim that because NK has not done further full functionality testing they are no longer developing nuclear weapons?

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Mabbe he forgot that KJU lost 200+ top nuclear scientists due to a “mishap”?

Aldebaran said:

Very true!
People seem to like focusing on the negatives rather than anything Trump has accomplished.

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Name one.

I did notice you said "anyTHING" so perhaps you know more than one.

Other than stacking the courts with wet-behind-the-ears federalist society puppets I can't imagine what you're thinking of.

Fantine said:

Name one.

I did notice you said "anyTHING" so perhaps you know more than one.

Other than stacking the courts with wet-behind-the-ears federalist society puppets I imagine what you're thinking of.

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Let's be sure to specify positive accomplishments.

Aldebaran said:

They were at the stage of development before where they were actually testing what they had developed. How do you believe they're still developing if they're back in the lab doing computer simulations, as iluvatar seems to suggest is happening?

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You believe they can only perform one development stage at a time?

Aldebaran said:

Name one? There are so many options, so I'll do more than that.

• Almost 4 million jobs created since election.
• More Americans are now employed than ever recorded before in our history.
• We have created more than 400,000 manufacturing jobs since my election.
• Manufacturing jobs growing at the fastest rate in more than THREE DECADES.
• Economic growth last quarter hit 4.2 percent.
• New unemployment claims recently hit a 49-year low.
• Median household income has hit highest level ever recorded.
• African-American unemployment has recently achieved the lowest rate ever recorded.
• Hispanic-American unemployment is at the lowest rate ever recorded.
• Asian-American unemployment recently achieved the lowest rate ever recorded.
• Women’s unemployment recently reached the lowest rate in 65 years.
• Youth unemployment has recently hit the lowest rate in nearly half a century.
• Lowest unemployment rate ever recorded for Americans without a high school diploma.
• Under my Administration, veterans’ unemployment recently reached its lowest rate in nearly 20 years.
• Almost 3.9 million Americans have been lifted off food stamps since the election.
• The Pledge to America’s Workers has resulted in employers committing to train more than 4 million Americans. We are committed to VOCATIONAL education.
• 95 percent of U.S. manufacturers are optimistic about the future—the highest ever.
• Retail sales surged last month, up another 6 percent over last year.
• Signed the biggest package of tax cuts and reforms in history. After tax cuts, over $300 billion poured back in to the U.S. in the first quarter alone.
• As a result of our tax bill, small businesses will have the lowest top marginal tax rate in more than 80 years.
• Helped win U.S. bid for the 2028 Summer Olympics in Los Angeles.
• Helped win U.S.-Mexico-Canada’s united bid for 2026 World Cup.
• Opened ANWR and approved Keystone XL and Dakota Access Pipelines.
• Record number of regulations eliminated.
• Enacted regulatory relief for community banks and credit unions.
• Obamacare individual mandate penalty GONE.
• My Administration is providing more affordable healthcare options for Americans through association health plans and short-term duration plans.
• Last month, the FDA approved more affordable generic drugs than ever before in history. And thanks to our efforts, many drug companies are freezing or reversing planned price increases.
• We reformed the Medicare program to stop hospitals from overcharging low-income seniors on their drugs—saving seniors hundreds of millions of dollars this year alone.
• Signed Right-To-Try legislation.
• Secured $6 billion in NEW funding to fight the opioid epidemic.
• We have reduced high-dose opioid prescriptions by 16 percent during my first year in office.
• Signed VA Choice Act and VA Accountability Act, expanded VA telehealth services, walk-in-clinics, and same-day urgent primary and mental health care.
• Increased our coal exports by 60 percent; U.S. oil production recently reached all-time high.
• United States is a net natural gas exporter for the first time since 1957.
• Withdrew the United States from the job-killing Paris Climate Accord.
• Cancelled the illegal, anti-coal, so-called Clean Power Plan.
• Secured record $700 billion in military funding; $716 billion next year.
• NATO allies are spending $69 billion more on defense since 2016.
• Process has begun to make the Space Force the 6th branch of the Armed Forces.
• Confirmed more circuit court judges than any other new administration.
• Confirmed Supreme Court Justice Neil Gorsuch and nominated Judge Brett Kavanaugh.
• Withdrew from the horrible, one-sided Iran Deal.
• Moved U.S. Embassy to Jerusalem.
• Protecting Americans from terrorists with the Travel Ban, upheld by Supreme Court.
• Issued Executive Order to keep open Guantanamo Bay.
• Concluded a historic U.S.-Mexico Trade Deal to replace NAFTA. And negotiations with Canada are underway as we speak.
• Reached a breakthrough agreement with the E.U. to increase U.S. exports.
• Imposed tariffs on foreign steel and aluminum to protect our national security.
• Imposed tariffs on China in response to China’s forced technology transfer, intellectual property theft, and their chronically abusive trade practices.
• Net exports are on track to increase by $59 billion this year.
• Improved vetting and screening for refugees, and switched focus to overseas resettlement.
• We have begun BUILDING THE WALL. Republicans want STRONG BORDERS and NO CRIME. Democrats want OPEN BORDERS which equals MASSIVE CRIME.

Trump Administration Accomplishments | The White House

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The administration has spoken; those who are loyal shall hereby dutifully echo...

Aldebaran said:

Funny how you didn't address even refute one of those points. Instead, mockery.

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I address Donald's self-aggrandizement all the time, and I've refuted it here among other places.

Why waste my breath arguing with an echo?

Aldebaran said:

Then why are you concerned about it? The agreement is to keep Un from going any further in developing nukes and the long range missiles that would make them a threat.

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Aldebaran said:

They've shown that they already have the nukes, and they've shown they have the long range missiles to carry them. What more is needed?

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So you are no longer claiming they are being halted from developing nukes?