God created Adam & Eve in such a way that when they sinned the sin nature would be passed on via sex & conception.
God could have arranged it so that babies were made in another way that did not pass on the sin nature. So God is responsible.
It seems only logical to me. When you breed two zebras, you get a zebra. What comes from two cats? Kittens. Logically, what comes from sinners? Sinners. It's not that sin is a literal gene in our DNA passed down from Adam, it's that the race of mankind in its first pair was irreparably changed, both having sinned and awakened to good and evil.
God could have created another Adam, Adam #2, for example. A man without the sin nature. Again, God bears responsibility.
Yes, God could have. He could have killed us all but He had mercy on His creations and let them live. Did not send Adam and Eve to hell and start over but establish covenants and mercy to forgive and save from sin although God owes us nothing. That's something to remember. God created us and we owe Him our lives, God died on a cross and resurrected to forgive us, we owe so much and He owes us nothing but has given us far more grace than we deserve. If one person out of billions does not see hell, God is loving, merciful, and graceful.
Better to just annihilate them, (if He's run out of Patience, Love & Power to save them), than sadisticly torment them forever. Compared to that, Hitler is a perfect angel.
Patience? Nehemiah 9:16-17 says: "But they, our fathers, acted arrogantly; They became stubborn and would not listen to Your commandments. "They refused to listen, And did not remember Your wondrous deeds which You had performed among them; So they became stubborn and appointed a leader to return to their slavery in Egypt But You are a God of forgiveness, Gracious and compassionate, Slow to anger and abounding in lovingkindness; And You did not forsake them."
This is talking about the golden calf while Moses was on the mountain. It was a very short time, and Israel already turned to idols and credited them for what God just did delivering them from death and slavery under the Egyptians. They could not enter the promise land, but did God kill them on the spot and start over? No, He had mercy and cared for them, giving the promise land to their children. Even Moses, while he could not go in got to go up high and look at the land.
Love? 1 Timothy 2:4 says of God: "who desires all people to be saved and to come to the knowledge of the truth." John 3:16-17 say: “"For God so loved the world, that he gave his only Son, that whoever believes in him should not perish but have eternal life. For God did not send his Son into the world to condemn the world, but in order that the world might be saved through him.”
Does that sound like God has run out of love? Reinforced by John 15:13 which states: “Greater love has no one than this, that someone lay down his life for his friends.” How much more dying for us while we were still sinners, depraved and unable to seek Him or follow His ways?
Also, John 6:37 says: “All that the Father gives me will come to me, and whoever comes to me I will never cast out.” No man in depravity can seek God, but God gives us to Jesus and when we come Jesus promises He will not cast us out.
Power? You say yourself in this post that all things are possible with God, according to Jesus. Could God create the world, heaven, hell, all plants, animals, humans, and save some but be just too weak to save all? No, this is not how it is. Psalm 79:11 says: "Let the groans of the prisoners come before you;
according to your great power, preserve those doomed to die!" Power and love to forgive sinners.
Why are all not saved? John 3:19-20 says: “And this is the judgment: the light has come into the world, and people loved the darkness rather than the light because their works were evil. For everyone who does wicked things hates the light and does not come to the light, lest his works should be exposed.” All have sinned and become spiritually dead, depraved, evil. Most criminals do not go and turn themselves into the police willingly without reason, because they do not want the punishment for their evil actions, which they deserve since they are guilty. On a scale of sin, sinners who love their sin more than God do not want to give it up but would rather try to hide it or ignore it and hide in the dark so they can attempt to avoid punishment.
God repaid Job twofold what he lost. Again I'd mention, God really has no obligation to do this. Drowned innocent babies? If there were any babies, I am not God, I do not know what He knows. We do not know what He spared us from by stopping the wicked of that day. God though, gave us rainbows as a sign He would not do this again, though it was not sin because God does not sin, and now the tares will grow alongside the wheat.Who allowed Satan to speak to Eve & tempt her in the garden of Eden? God.
Who allowed Satan to destroy Job's possessions, family & body? God.
Who drowned innocent babies with the flood in Noah's day? God.
Matthew 13:24-30
“He put another parable before them, saying, "The kingdom of heaven may be compared to a man who sowed good seed in his field, but while his men were sleeping, his enemy came and sowed weeds among the wheat and went away. So when the plants came up and bore grain, then the weeds appeared also. And the servants of the master of the house came and said to him, 'Master, did you not sow good seed in your field? How then does it have weeds?' He said to them, 'An enemy has done this.' So the servants said to him, 'Then do you want us to go and gather them?' But he said, 'No, lest in gathering the weeds you root up the wheat along with them. Let both grow together until the harvest, and at harvest time I will tell the reapers, "Gather the weeds first and bind them in bundles to be burned, but gather the wheat into my barn."'"”
The weeds (tares) will be allowed to grow. They will not be uprooted lest the wheat get uprooted as well. Of course the weeds may hurt the wheat, taking their water, choking their sun, but this is what sin does. Not what God does. Sin harms all things.
God doesn't directly tempt anyone to sin. He has the devil, His servant, to do that for Him. Or our own fallen natures which God allowed to be brought to us through Adam & Eve's choices.
God is responsible for all these things.
Woah, let's take a step back from saying Satan is God's servant following His commands. Matthew 12:25-32 says:
“Knowing their thoughts, he said to them, "Every kingdom divided against itself is laid waste, and no city or house divided against itself will stand. And if Satan casts out Satan, he is divided against himself. How then will his kingdom stand? And if I cast out demons by Beelzebul, by whom do your sons cast them out? Therefore they will be your judges. But if it is by the Spirit of God that I cast out demons, then the kingdom of God has come upon you. Or how can someone enter a strong man's house and plunder his goods, unless he first binds the strong man? Then indeed he may plunder his house. Whoever is not with me is against me, and whoever does not gather with me scatters. Therefore I tell you, every sin and blasphemy will be forgiven people, but the blasphemy against the Spirit will not be forgiven. And whoever speaks a word against the Son of Man will be forgiven, but whoever speaks against the Holy Spirit will not be forgiven, either in this age or in the age to come.”
If the devil is God's servant, he must be with God or else God's house does not stand. How can God then cast out Satan and be divided against Himself? He casts out Satan because the devil is not of Him, His house is not divided but is strong because it is united and holy. Let us be careful in what we attribute to God, He does not like a man to be innocently condemned (Proverbs 17:15 says: He who justifies the wicked and he who condemns the righteous are both alike an abomination to the LORD.), how much more will He dislike being accused of evil?
Would God allow Satan to tempt you?
Would you have a sin nature that you inherited through no fault of your own?
Would God make you so you cannot sin, like the angels or saints in heaven?
The devil began as an angel, I think we can agree he sinned, and the angels who left with him. If angels can abandon their posts, who are in heaven, how much more am I likely to sin?
"Man's heart is evil (Mark 7:21-23) and sick (Jer. 17:9). Man is a slave of sin (Rom. 6:14-20). He does not seek for God (Rom. 3:11). He cannot understand spiritual things (1 Cor. 2:14). He is at enmity with God (Eph. 2:15). And, is by nature a child of wrath (Eph. 2:3)."
Yet Love Omnipotent chooses not to stop many horrific things that happen daily, such as children being raped. He could easily stop them, yet chooses not to. If i had that power & failed to stop such things, a court would find me guilty of criminal actions. To say God bears no responsibility for them is ridiculous.
The questions we should ask ourselves are, why does God let such things happen? How is He going to make it right? How is He going to work this all together for good? Is that even possible? Jesus said, with God all is possible.
Again, the wheat and tares (weeds) are growing together now. Also, we cannot see God's full plan. Why doesn't He stop kids being raped? Why was hitler able to start the holocaust? God knows more than we do, who are we to advise a perfect God with our imperfect knowledge (Isaiah 40:13-14 says: "Who has measured the Spirit of the LORD,
or what man shows him his counsel?
Whom did he consult,
and who made him understand?
Who taught him the path of justice,
and taught him knowledge,
and showed him the way of understanding?")? Is it possible for all things to work out for good? Jesus says all things are possible with God, and it is unwise to call the Son of God a liar.
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