Moon it's own source of light

Does the moon give it's own light?

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Indeed, either directly or via reflection, for example, the reason why it is bright and we can’t clearly see the stars on a full moon is it is reflecting sunlight onto the Earth, and the conversely the reason why on a new moon it is dark out and we can see the stars in the absence of cloud cover and light pollution is because the sun is illuminating the far side of the moon, which is tidally locked away from us.

I have just recently read that the dark side of moon is really the dim side sort of, for the earth does illuminate the moon a little nothing like the sun but the sun light reflecting off earth does cast onto the moon a tad.
 
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Scripture is clear consistent as to the moon being its own source of light:

Then God said, “Let there be
lights in the expanse of the heavens to separate the day from the night, and let them be for signs and for seasons and for days and years; (Gen 1:14)

God made the two great lights, the greater light to govern the day, and
the lesser light to govern the night; He made the stars also. (Gen 1:16)

There is one glory of the sun, and another glory of the moon, and another glory of the stars; for star differs from star in glory. (1 Cor 15:41)

The moon and stars to rule by night,
For His lovingkindness is everlasting. (Ps 136:9)

“It shall be established forever like the moon,
And
the witness in the sky is faithful.” Selah. (Ps 89:37)

The light of the moon will be as the light of the sun
(Isa 30:26a)

No longer will you have the sun for light by day,
Nor for brightness will the moon give(s) you light; (my s)
But you will have the Lord for an everlasting light,
And your God for your glory. (Isa 60:19)


And the city has no need of the sun or of the moon to shine on it, for the glory of God has illumined it, and its lamp is the Lamb. (Rev 21:23)

But in those days, after that tribulation, the sun will be darkened and the moon will not give its light (Mk 13:24, Mt 24:29)

If even the moon has no brightness
And the stars are not pure in His sight, (Job 25:5)

Thus says the Lord,
Who gives the sun for light by day
And the fixed order of the moon and the stars for light by night,
Who stirs up the sea so that its waves roar;
The Lord of hosts is His name:
(Jer 31:35)

“And it shall be from new moon to new moon
And from sabbath to sabbath,
All mankind will come to bow down before Me,” says the Lord.
(Isa 66:23)

So there you go all ye rich men. God made TWO (count them) great and glorious heavenly lights, which in the day will be replaced by the light of the Father and the lamp of the Son.
Amen! (my edit, your scripture quotes)

Even the Lord Jesus said, [Mat 24:29 NIV] "Immediately after the distress of those days " 'the sun will be darkened, and the moon will not give its light; the stars will fall from the sky, and the heavenly bodies will be shaken.'

[Psa 104:19 NIV] He made the moon to mark the seasons, and the sun knows when to go down.

[Psa 148:3 NIV] Praise him, sun and moon; praise him, all you shining stars.

[Sng 6:10 NIV] Friends: Who is this that appears like the dawn, fair as the moon, bright as the sun, majestic as the stars in procession?

[1Co 15:41 NIV] The sun has one kind of splendor, the moon another and the stars another; and star differs from star in splendor.

[Rev 21:23 NIV] The city does not need the sun or the moon to shine on it, for the glory of God gives it light, and the Lamb is its lamp.

But people at this sight want to redefine and re-apply what scripture says (and interpret where no interpretation is needed), and the shallowness of people's views and the spirit of mockery at this place keeps this in Conspiracy Theories. I think Atheists can speak more freely at this site than certain bible believers who don't hold their popular views. So what's the real conspiracy theory?
 
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Amen! (my edit, your scripture quotes)

Even the Lord Jesus said, [Mat 24:29 NIV] "Immediately after the distress of those days " 'the sun will be darkened, and the moon will not give its light; the stars will fall from the sky, and the heavenly bodies will be shaken.'

[Psa 104:19 NIV] He made the moon to mark the seasons, and the sun knows when to go down.

[Psa 148:3 NIV] Praise him, sun and moon; praise him, all you shining stars.

[Sng 6:10 NIV] Friends: Who is this that appears like the dawn, fair as the moon, bright as the sun, majestic as the stars in procession?

[1Co 15:41 NIV] The sun has one kind of splendor, the moon another and the stars another; and star differs from star in splendor.

[Rev 21:23 NIV] The city does not need the sun or the moon to shine on it, for the glory of God gives it light, and the Lamb is its lamp.

But people at this sight want to redefine and re-apply what scripture says (and interpret where no interpretation is needed), and the shallowness of people's views and the spirit of mockery at this place keeps this in Conspiracy Theories. I think Atheists can speak more freely at this site than certain bible believers who don't hold their popular views. So what's the real conspiracy theory?

no of those verses states the moon produces its own light.

take away sunlight and the moon will not give its light

"Immediately after the distress of those days " 'the sun will be darkened, and the moon will not give its light; the stars will fall from the sky, and the heavenly bodies will be shaken.'
 
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I have just recently read that the dark side of moon is really the dim side sort of, for the earth does illuminate the moon a little nothing like the sun but the sun light reflecting off earth does cast onto the moon a tad.

That’s true. Btw I am assuming you are aware the dark side is not fixed but moves; one can see images of the Far Side, which does not benefit as much from Earthlight, in different stages of illumination during the Lunar Day, which is around a month in length. We were greatly blessed by God, in that geographically, or should I say selenographically, the side of the moon visible from Earth is much more interesting.
 
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Amen! (my edit, your scripture quotes)

Even the Lord Jesus said, [Mat 24:29 NIV] "Immediately after the distress of those days " 'the sun will be darkened, and the moon will not give its light; the stars will fall from the sky, and the heavenly bodies will be shaken.'

[Psa 104:19 NIV] He made the moon to mark the seasons, and the sun knows when to go down.

[Psa 148:3 NIV] Praise him, sun and moon; praise him, all you shining stars.

[Sng 6:10 NIV] Friends: Who is this that appears like the dawn, fair as the moon, bright as the sun, majestic as the stars in procession?

[1Co 15:41 NIV] The sun has one kind of splendor, the moon another and the stars another; and star differs from star in splendor.

[Rev 21:23 NIV] The city does not need the sun or the moon to shine on it, for the glory of God gives it light, and the Lamb is its lamp.

But people at this sight want to redefine and re-apply what scripture says (and interpret where no interpretation is needed), and the shallowness of people's views and the spirit of mockery at this place keeps this in Conspiracy Theories. I think Atheists can speak more freely at this site than certain bible believers who don't hold their popular views. So what's the real conspiracy theory?

That’s not true - there are no restrictions on promoting any interpretation of Christianity or the Scriptures that is consistent with the CF.com statement of faith, whereas atheists do not have the ability to post in the Christian Only forums, which include all theology forums except Exploring Christianity.
 
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That’s true. Btw I am assuming you are aware the dark side is not fixed but moves; one can see images of the Far Side, which does not benefit as much from Earthlight, in different stages of illumination during the Lunar Day, which is around a month in length. We were greatly blessed by God, in that geographically, or should I say selenographically, the side of the moon visible from Earth is much more interesting.

Yes indeed the moon moves it actually has a spin rate of about the same as from new moon to new moon 30 days. I find it absolutely amazing how that works.
 
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if the moon must always be fully illuminated

Dude, you're confusing yourself. The moon is lit by the rays of the sun whenever and wherever those rays strike its surface. It's not a logic puzzle, it's just what happens. There isn't any 'must' about it.
 
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a simple zoom in with a telescope on the moon and clearly it’s not producing light, it’s a rock with craters all over it.

Hmm satan presents himself as a angel of light but he isn’t just a rock with craters similar indeed to the allusion of a soft white moon bulb.
 
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Three examples of light being emitted from either the surface of the moon or right below the surface. In the terminator shadow area on the moon, in the dark part there are small light dots emitting light.




You must realise that things that stick up above the surface will catch light from a different angle than things that don't?

Take a picture of something bright with your phone. Why can you see detail where the phone sensor only picks up white light?
 
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Dude, you're confusing yourself. The moon is lit by the rays of the sun whenever and wherever those rays strike its surface. It's not a logic puzzle, it's just what happens. There isn't any 'must' about it.
Tom 1, good to see you here.

Have you ever shone a light... a very bright light onto a spherical opaque object?

You should try it.

What you will see is that the very center of the opaque object will be very bright, no matter how dull or rough the surface.

You will also notice that as you go out to the sides of this sphere the light will be reflected off of the surface at different angles.

This causes the edges, when viewed from a distance, to look less bright.

Do you see that from the full moon? OR.... do you see a constant unchanging brightness from the moon right to the very edge... which, by the way, is not facing you?
 
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Tom 1, good to see you here.

Have you ever shone a light... a very bright light onto a spherical opaque object?

You should try it.

What you will see is that the very center of the opaque object will be very bright, no matter how dull or rough the surface.

You will also notice that as you go out to the sides of this sphere the light will be reflected off of the surface at different angles.

This causes the edges, when viewed from a distance, to look less bright.

Do you see that from the full moon? OR.... do you see a constant unchanging brightness from the moon right to the very edge... which, by the way, is not facing you?

The sun is HUGE and sends out light in all directions, it's not a focused beam like a torch, and it's a long way from the moon. When you look at the moon you're seeing all the photons that hit wherever they hit more or less head-on and were reflected towards you. For your analogy to work the sun would need to be smaller than the moon and much closer to it. In any case if there is any variation in brightness across the surface, other than because of shadow, you wouldn't be able to tell at a glance.
 
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Tom 1, good to see you here.

Have you ever shone a light... a very bright light onto a spherical opaque object?

You should try it.

What you will see is that the very center of the opaque object will be very bright, no matter how dull or rough the surface.

You will also notice that as you go out to the sides of this sphere the light will be reflected off of the surface at different angles.

This causes the edges, when viewed from a distance, to look less bright.

Do you see that from the full moon? OR.... do you see a constant unchanging brightness from the moon right to the very edge... which, by the way, is not facing you?

From memory, this effect of uniform distribution of light across a sphere the moon is discussed in Galileo was Wrong, something about the albedo.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Albedo

Reminds me of Olber's Paradox, which is kind of related, not enough light in the starry sky.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Olbers'_paradox

'More light', cries the great Goethe on his deathbed, still groping in the dark for Christ.
 
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Tom 1, good to see you here.

Have you ever shone a light... a very bright light onto a spherical opaque object?

You should try it.

What you will see is that the very center of the opaque object will be very bright, no matter how dull or rough the surface.

You will also notice that as you go out to the sides of this sphere the light will be reflected off of the surface at different angles.

This causes the edges, when viewed from a distance, to look less bright.

Do you see that from the full moon? OR.... do you see a constant unchanging brightness from the moon right to the very edge... which, by the way, is not facing you?

That depends on the intensity and relative size of the light source.
 
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What it boils down to is people can not distinguish between reflected light and emitted light. Men of science know this and can use this to their advantage in their deception.

Actually we can, using spectography, in the case of surfaces which are not highly reflective.
 
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The moon does not give off it's own light, that would be silly.
That radiance you are seeing is emitting from the New Jerusalem Battlestation hidden inside the moon.

Hope this clears things up.

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That’s no moon, its a space station!
 
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"Gravity is electromagnetic" is not a conspiracy theory. It's just wrong. I stand by what I said.

Yeah I wish it were, because then we could have flying cars using easy antigravity devices.
 
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The sun is HUGE and sends out light in all directions, it's not a focused beam like a torch, and it's a long way from the moon. When you look at the moon you're seeing all the photons that hit wherever they hit more or less head-on and were reflected towards you. For your analogy to work the sun would need to be smaller than the moon and much closer to it. In any case if there is any variation in brightness across the surface, other than because of shadow, you wouldn't be able to tell at a glance.
The sun is millions of miles away. When it's light gets here all its rays are parallel due to the simple fact that it is so far away and it is so huge.

Your idea that all the rays that hit the moon "head on" are going to reflect directly to us.. is flawed. Rays of light that hit a curved surface are deflected relative to the angle that they strike the surface.

Your idea that we cannot tell "at a glance" is also flawed as I look at the moon for more than a "glance".
 
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Reflected light from the sun onto the moon then to the earth would only work if the moon was a mirror. Then that may not even work, even if it did, it wold not give a even light as does the full moon at night.

A full moons light is a perfectly and evenly distributed light as the suns light. A reflected light would not be this way.

Plus as in these photos a reflected light would not evenly follow the contours, like is seen in these moon photos.

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close up of above photo notice how the light follows the m shape contour, reflected light would not do this evenly

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