Moon it's own source of light

Does the moon give it's own light?

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For me, its not to be taken literally.

I see. So you don't take any of the 'days of creation' account literally?

The moon does not have its own light source.

The moon is a great light in the night sky, yes, but, only because it is reflecting the suns light. Simple really. Scientific reality too.

The Bible is only describing appearance, not reality then? Because it only appears that the moon is a light, whereas in fact, you say, it's just a reflector.

Do you then consider scripture to merely deal with appearances, or only where it disagrees with your preconceptions?

For instance, Joshua's long day - Sun stand thou still. He was really saying 'Do whatever to make it appear the sun stands still'? And what does your science say that would be?
 
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I see. So you don't take any of the 'days of creation' account literally?



The Bible is only describing appearance, not reality then? Because it only appears that the moon is a light, whereas in fact, you say, it's just a reflector.

Do you then consider scripture to merely deal with appearances, or only where it disagrees with your preconceptions?

For instance, Joshua's long day - Sun stand thou still. He was really saying 'Do whatever to make it appear the sun stands still'? And what does your science say that would be?

I disagree with 'your' interpretation / view / opinion of what scripture says my friend.
 
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I disagree with 'your' interpretation / view / opinion of what scripture says my friend.

Thank you, can't say it comes as a surprise. I'm embarrassingly anti-scientific when it comes to the big claims of 'modern science'. Just disappointed to see how many Christians are willing to interpret scripture 'in light of' those assumptions. Eyes to see, my friend.
 
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Thank you, can't say it comes as a surprise. I'm embarrassingly anti-scientific when it comes to the big claims of 'modern science'. Just disappointed to see how many Christians are willing to interpret scripture 'in light of' those assumptions. Eyes to see, my friend.

Well, i dont believe in a flat earth, a 6k old earth, the moon as its own light source, dinosaurs and man living side by side.

People get these 'ideas' by misinterpreting scripture.

God bless you buddy
 
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Came across these (supposed) photos taken by a Chinese satellite. Of the moon casting a shadow upon the earth from 230,000+ miles away out in space. The shadow is supposed to be the small black spot on the earth.

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So if this photo is real and of a real claim, that this is happening from out in space, 230,000+ miles away.
Then people who believe that the moon is as science states, 230,000 miles out in space and is lit (reflects) by the light of the sun.

Take and create a, model "two spheres, one for the earth and one for the moon also a light source for the sun" and recreate the above photos taken by China's satellite.
Showing a sphere (earth) with a small circular cast shadow from the moon, on the sphere representing the earth while the rest of the model earth is lit by the light (sun).

Either by taking a photo of the created model, showing the cast shadow on earth. Or show a video of a model with this happening.

 
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Came across these (supposed) photos taken by a Chinese satellite. Of the moon casting a shadow upon the earth from 230,000+ miles away out in space. The shadow is supposed to be the small black spot on the earth.

So if this photo is real and of a real claim, that this is happening from out in space, 230,000+ miles away.
Then people who believe that the moon is as science states, 230,000 miles out in space and is lit (reflects) by the light of the sun.

Take and create a, model "two spheres, one for the earth and one for the moon also a light source for the sun" and recreate the above photos taken by China's satellite.
Showing a sphere (earth) with a small circular cast shadow from the moon, on the sphere representing the earth while the rest of the model earth is lit by the light (sun).

Either by taking a photo of the created model, showing the cast shadow on earth. Or show a video of a model with this happening.


Nice pictures. The Moon is between the Sun and Earth, so the sunlight reflected by the Moon is reflected away from the Earth. People on Earth don't see the Moon at this time, although people in the solar eclipse (where the shadow is) can see the silhouette of the Moon passing in front of the Sun.

Yeah, take a ball, a much bigger lamp shining at the ball, and place a small ball in between the ball and the lamp. You'll get a small shadow on the bigger ball. No mystery there.
 
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Here was an attempt by a scientist or a person who is an amateur scientist. This was posted on another flat earth thread. Trying to show that a model can be constructed showing the moon can cast a shadow upon the earth.

The light source representing the sun used by this person though is not to scale in distance from the shapes representing the moon and earth.

So there is still not a model constructed, showing this is something that can happen at the given distances and sizes (by science) of the earth, moon and sun

 
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So in this persons youtube video, how ever big his model earth is. If it is close to a ping pong ball then his light source should be.

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Earth. The planet Earth. The universe is a big place, but let's cut it down to size by making the Earth the size of a Ping-Pong ball. On that scale it would be placed 500 yards (460 meters) from the Sun.

from www.britannica.com
 
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Scripture is clear consistent as to the moon being its own source of light:

Then God said, “Let there be lights in the expanse of the heavens to separate the day from the night, and let them be for signs and for seasons and for days and years; (Gen 1:14)

God made the two great lights, the greater light to govern the day, and the lesser light to govern the night; He made the stars also.
(Gen 1:16)

There is one glory of the sun, and another glory of the moon, and another glory of the stars; for star differs from star in glory. (1 Cor 15:41)

The moon and stars to rule by night,
For His lovingkindness is everlasting. (Ps 136:9)

“It shall be established forever like the moon,
And the witness in the sky is faithful.” Selah. (Ps 89:37)

The light of the moon will be as the light of the sun
(Isa 30:26a)

No longer will you have the sun for light by day,
Nor for brightness will the moon give you light;
But you will have the Lord for an everlasting light,
And your God for your glory. (Isa 60:19)


And the city has no need of the sun or of the moon to shine on it, for the glory of God has illumined it, and its lamp is the Lamb. (Rev 21:23)

But in those days, after that tribulation, the sun will be darkened and the moon will not give its light (Mk 13:24, Mt 24:29)

If even the moon has no brightness
And the stars are not pure in His sight,
(Job 25:5)

Thus says the Lord,
Who gives the sun for light by day
And the fixed order of the moon and the stars for light by night,
Who stirs up the sea so that its waves roar;
The Lord of hosts is His name:
(Jer 31:35)

“And it shall be from new moon to new moon
And from sabbath to sabbath,
All mankind will come to bow down before Me,” says the Lord.
(Isa 66:23)

So there you go all ye rich men. God made TWO (count them) great and glorious heavenly lights, which in the day will be replaced by the light of the Father and the lamp of the Son.

And always nice to end the shortlist with another great promise of universal salvation that so many love to hate. Perfect simplicity that reveals the folly of worldly wisdom.
 
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Either by taking a photo of the created model, showing the cast shadow on earth. Or show a video of a model with this happening.
What is your objection to a simple geometric diagram? Or a representative sketch with the appropriate associated arithmetic?
 
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What is your objection to a simple geometric diagram? Or a representative sketch with the appropriate associated arithmetic?

Because just as the video i posted by the person proving that what science is saying is true. He can only get so far with his model before some area of it has to altered to get the model to work. In this case the light representing the sun had to be placed much closer than the actual distance (between earth, moon and the sun) given by science.

Things/models/ideas can be constructed on paper and be made to work on paper but many time in actual reality, they do not work.

Plus as i look up at the moon i do not see a moon 230,000 miles away out in space. It is as the Bible states, a light placed in the raqia above the earth.

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Well, i dont believe in a flat earth, a 6k old earth, the moon as its own light source, dinosaurs and man living side by side.

People get these 'ideas' by misinterpreting scripture.

God bless you buddy

Indeed so.
 
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Ok, first and foremost.. and very seriously... this is not a flat earth related topic... Not for me. So please leave the whole FE out of this or start your own thread.

This is about a phenomenon that, quite honestly, I have questioned since I was very young. However, I put it aside as life went on.

Now, I have heard others speak of it and it has raised some very simple yet important questions..

How on earth does the moon look the way it does if it is reflecting the sun?

Let's look at the phases, shall we?

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First, look at the "Waxing Crescent". Pictured above is not the last one before a new moon. There are several more before the moon is not illuminated.

Still, when I go to work, it is dark... yet there is the sliver of a moon in the sky.

Ask yourself, if the moon must always be fully illuminated, by the sun, there must always be a full moon to some area of space. Earth just cannot see it... So, therefore, when the moon is but a sliver, the rest of the moon, facing away from me, must still be fully illuminated.

So, where would the sun have to be to fully illuminate the surface of the moon "except" the tiny sliver I can see.

The sun would have to be opposite me. It should be in the sky, on the opposite side of me than the dark side that I see... Yet, the sun is not even up yet.

When its dark at night where you are the other side of earth is fully illuminated. the same with the moon except it is tidal locked meaning one side is always facing earth that is why the waxing etc. can be seen. the earth doesn't it too but we are standing on it hard to see the changes. Every planet and moon in the solar system is illuminated by the sun
 
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Reading it literally doesn't change anything about the sun reflecting light off the moon. From our perspective, the moon is still the light for the night, and the sun the light for the day. Genesis obviously isn't a science book giving us all the details of how God's creation works. It would have to be much longer and more detailed if it were.

They both rule during the day some times. It's cool to see a full moon in the middle of the afternoon
 
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When its dark at night where you are the other side of earth is fully illuminated. the same with the moon except it is tidal locked meaning one side is always facing earth that is why the waxing etc. can be seen. the earth doesn't it too but we are standing on it hard to see the changes. Every planet and moon in the solar system is illuminated by the sun

Indeed, either directly or via reflection, for example, the reason why it is bright and we can’t clearly see the stars on a full moon is it is reflecting sunlight onto the Earth, and the conversely the reason why on a new moon it is dark out and we can see the stars in the absence of cloud cover and light pollution is because the sun is illuminating the far side of the moon, which is tidally locked away from us.
 
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