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How so?But his answer mirrors his answer about earth's last day.
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How so?But his answer mirrors his answer about earth's last day.
Nobody knows the day or hour or the times and seasons the Father has put in his own power.How so?
Yes that’s right. Jesus told them not to concern themselves with timelines. He did not, however, dismiss the question as invalid.But his answer mirrors his answer about earth's last day.
The new birth and Indwelling of the Holy Spirit began Israel's restoration. Israel = believers only. and it culminates on the last day in the resurrection (restoration) of our bodies into the New Heavens and Earth.Yes that’s right. Jesus told them not to concern themselves with timelines. He did not, however, dismiss the question as invalid.
I don’t see how what you wrote and an end-times restoration of a remnant of Israel in Christ are mutually exclusive. In fact it is not. Even Augustine saw Jews coming to Christ before the Second Advent.The new birth and Indwelling of the Holy Spirit began Israel's restoration. Israel = believers only. and it culminates on the last day in the resurrection (restoration) of our bodies into the New Heavens and Earth.
The Church is biblical Israel. Ethnic Jews are the broken off unbelievers whom God will reattach upon any having faith in Christ.I don’t see how what you wrote and an end-times restoration of a remnant of Israel in Christ are mutually exclusive. In fact it is not. Even Augustine saw Jews coming to Christ before the Second Advent.
Until the time of the Gentiles are fulfilled.The Church is biblical Israel. Ethnic Jews are the broken off unbelievers whom God will reattach upon any having faith in Christ.
The Jews in Israel are biblical gentiles trodding down Jerusalem. When Christ abolished circumcision, he removed all physical unbelievers from Israel.Until the time of the Gentiles are fulfilled.
Luke 21:24
Romans 11:25
We cannot ignore this.
But you are right. Jesus is the Vine. There is no other.
I’m sure you have been exposed to hyper Dispensational theory which does violence to the Scriptures. However, if we read the Scriptures plainly, we come back with a futurist approach. Didn’t say Dispensational, but futurist.
I’m Reformed as well. How Reformed who literally and plainly draw the truth of
soteriology from the Scriptures end up applying imagery and allegory to Biblical prophecy is still a mystery to me. I’ll have to explore this more on why.
I mean no Reformed scholar would take Isaiah 53 and promote imagery or allegory. The Jewish scholars today do that and claim Isaiah 53 is an image of Israel.
Sure there are symbols and imagery in some OT and NT prophecy but it is usually explained.
What can we take away literally?
There will be a tribulation before the second coming of Christ. There will be a millennial Kingdom before the final Judgment. That’s what the Bible teaches.
No one mentioned circumcision. And I personally don’t think anyone takes seriously that the Zionist government currently in power is the remnant mentioned by Paul.The Jews in Israel are biblical gentiles trodding down Jerusalem. When Christ abolished circumcision, he removed all physical unbelievers from Israel.
They are a false religion who intermarry within the system and accept converts.No one mentioned circumcision. And I personally don’t think anyone takes seriously that the Zionist government currently in power is the remnant mentioned by Paul.
Any remnant will be IN CHRIST. I thought I made that previously clear.
The very testimony that the Hebrew people are a distinct people after everything they have been through over two millennia should be a hint God is not finished with His promises. All the promises are or will be fulfilled in Christ Jesus.
Yes as Paul said they are enemies to the faith. Now. We too were hostile to God before His Grace saved us.They are a false religion who intermarry within the system and accept converts.
Revelation 20 is not to be understood literally. But symbolically. Millennialism is Phariseeism that Jesus proved wrong in the gospels.The indisputable fact that the formal church turned away from the doctrine of Millennialism, which was formerly called chilism, is totally immaterial. For as time passed, they gave up many of the essential doctrines of Christianity, most importantly, that of salvation by grace through faith, substituting a false doctrine of salvation by works.
While Revelation 20 is the only place where we are told how long the future earthly kingdom will last, anyone who denies that there will be a physical kingdom of God established on this earth at the return of Christ, is denying a literal host of explicitly stated scriptures.
Should you look beyond the worldly, towards the spiritual?The indisputable fact that the formal church turned away from the doctrine of Millennialism, which was formerly called chilism, is totally immaterial. For as time passed, they gave up many of the essential doctrines of Christianity, most importantly, that of salvation by grace through faith, substituting a false doctrine of salvation by works.
While Revelation 20 is the only place where we are told how long the future earthly kingdom will last, anyone who denies that there will be a physical kingdom of God established on this earth at the return of Christ, is denying a literal host of explicitly stated scriptures.
I find it laughable when people who worship on Sunday (saying the 10 commandments were done away with in a new covenant) start talking about spiritual Israel and the saved.
Do you not consider the implications of this? If the spirit is given to us and talks to our hearts, and his laws are written on our hearts (which is actually what the new covenant really is), how can you continue to debate from this angle and yet ignore the Seventh Day Sabbath. It is the ONLY day that God sanctified and made Holy.
You have to start joining the dots in these things.
Also, to say the disciples and apostles did not believe in such things is a porky.
How can church doctrines derived from many dozens of writers over the first few decades allow for all said writers to have identical philosophies when these writers wrote largely from different focal points?(That is a stupid argument and absurd).
The overriding theme of course is consistent...but not finer points of doctrine.
There are a lot of jeffersonian christians, just do not like or believe part of the Bible then just make a theology that will reduce what you do not believe. And move it to metaphorical or spiritual files/meanings.