Contenders Edge said:
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That is because you are looking at it from the perspective of a man and not God’s.
You are using another fallacy in informal logic:. Please show where God defines oikumene as the "entire world" and not the "inhabited land of the roman empire" in order to substantiate your claim. I could say that God created the definition of oikumene to be "inhabited land of the roman empire" and thus that is why it is defined that way.
Used 1 time in Matt and 3 times in Luke of the Gospels. Used in 3 verses of Revelation.
A few threads on this board:
"OIKOUMENE"(#G3625) In Olivet Discourse and Revelation. Mistranslated?
The mistranslation of #g3625 and the possible impact on interpretations when it comes to Eschatology.
Here are 2 other greek words I feel have been horribly mistranslated in the NT:
GEHENNA/Hell
1067. geena gheh'-en-nah of Hebrew origin (1516 and 2011);
valley of (the son of) Hinnom; ge-henna (or Ge-Hinnom), a valley of Jerusalem, used (figuratively) as a name for the place (or state) of everlasting punishment:--hell
AGE/forever/world
165. aion ahee-ohn' from the same as 104; properly, an age; by extension, perpetuity (also past); by implication, the world; specially (Jewish) a Messianic period (present or future):--Compare 5550...............
166. aionios ahee-o'-nee-os from 165; perpetual (also used of past time, or past and future as well):--eternal, for ever, everlasting, world (began).
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And the word that is the focus of this thread: "OIKOUMENE"<3625>
Definition from greek resources:
3625 oikoumene feminine participle present passive of 3611 (as noun, by implication, of 1093);
land, i.e. the (terrene part of the) globe; specially, the Roman empire:--earth, world.........
STRONGS NT 3625: οἰκουμένη
οἰκουμένη, οἰκουμένης, ἡ (feminine of the present passive participle from οἰκέω (namely, γῆ; cf. Winers Grammar, § 64, 5; Buttmann, § 123, 8));
1. the inhabited earth;
a. in Greek writings often the portion of the earth inhabited by the Greeks, in distinction from the lands of the barbarians, cf. Passow, ii., p. 415a; (Liddell and Scott, under the word, I.).
b. in the Greek authors who wrote about Roman affairs (like the Latinorbis terrarum) equivalent to the Roman empire: so πᾶσα ἡ οἰκουμένη contextually equivalent to all the subjects of this empire, Luke 2:1.
One interesting fact I found out is, that #3625 is used in only 4 verses of the Gospels:
1 in Matthew and 3 in Luke.
I will post 2 of the verses, both of which are used in the Olivet Disourse using the KJV and NASB, as they appear to be 2 popular Bible versions and also use different greek texts.
Used in only 1 verse of Matthew:
Matthew 24:14
New American Standard Bible
"This gospel of the kingdom shall be preached in the whole world<(oikoumenē)<3625> as a testimony to all the nations,
and then the end will come.
King James Bible
And this gospel of the kingdom shall be preached in all the world<(oikoumenē)<3625> for a witness unto all nations;
and then shall the end come.
Luke 21:26
New American Standard Bible
men fainting from fear and the expectation of the things which are coming upon the world/<(oikoumenē)<3625>;
for the powers of the heavens will be shaken.
King James Bible
Men's hearts failing them for fear, and for looking after those things which are coming on the earth/οἰκουμένη (oikoumenē)<3625>:
for the powers of heaven shall be shaken.
Strong's Concordance with Hebrew and Greek Lexicon
#3625 mentioned 15 times
oikoumenhV <3625>
Luke 4:5, Romans 10:18, Revelation 3:10, Revelation 16:14.
oikoumenh <3625> Mattthew 24:14, Luke 21:26, Acts 19:27
oikoumenhn <3625> 8 times Luke 2:1, Acts 11:28, Acts 17:6, 31, 24:5, Hebrews 1:6, 2:5,
Revelation 12:9.
Luke 2:1
Became yet in the days, those, came out decree beside Caesar Augustus to be being registering every the being-homed/
oikoumenhn <3625> .
Luke 4:5
And up-leading Him, he shows to Him all the Kingdoms of the being-homed/
oikoumenhV <3625> in instant<4743> of time.
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Romans 10:18
But I am saying 'no not they hear? Indeed-surely into all the land came-out the voices of them and into the every ends of the being-homed/
oikoumenhV <3625> the declarations of them.
Revelation 3:10
That thou keep the Word of the under-remaining of Me and I thee shall be keeping out of the hour of the trial of the one being about to be coming upon of the whole being-homed/
oikoumenhV <3625>, to try the ones homing/kat-oikountaV <2730> upon the
land<1093>.
1093 ge - contracted from a primary word; soil; by extension a region, or the solid part or the whole of the terrene globe (including the occupants in each application):--country, earth(-ly), ground, land, world.
Revelation 12:9
So the great Dragon was cast out, that Serpent of old, called the Devil and Satan, who deceives the whole being-homed/
οἰκουμένη<3625>;
he was cast to the land, and his messenger were cast out with him.
Revelation 16:14
For they are spirits of demons, doing sings which is going out on the kings of the inhabited-house/
oikoumenhV <3625>, whole, to be mobilizing/leading them into the battle of the day of the great, of the God, the Almighty.
3625. oikoumene oy-kou-men'-ay feminine participle present passive of 3611 (as noun, by implication, of 1093); land, i.e. the (terrene part of the) globe; specially, the Roman empire:--earth, world.
3626. oikouros oy-koo-ros' from 3624 and ouros (a guard; be "ware"); a stayer at home, i.e. domestically inclined (a "good housekeeper"):--keeper at home.
3624. oikos oy'-kos of uncertain affinity; a dwelling (more or less extensive, literal or figurative); by implication, a family (more or less related, literally or figuratively):--home, house(-hold), temple.
3623. oikonomos oy-kon-om'-os from 3624 and the base of 3551; a house-distributor (i.e. manager), or overseer, i.e. an employee in that capacity; by extension, a fiscal agent (treasurer); figuratively, a preacher (of the Gospel):--chamberlain, governor, steward.
3619. oikodome oy-kod-om-ay' feminine (abstract) of a compound of 3624 and the base of 1430; architecture, i.e. (concretely) a structure; figuratively, confirmation:--building, edify(-ication, -ing).
3609. oikeios oy-ki'-os from 3624; domestic, i.e. (as noun), a relative, adherent:--(those) of the (his own) house(-hold).
3306. meno men'-o a primary verb; to stay (in a given place, state, relation or expectancy):--abide, continue, dwell, endure, be present, remain, stand, tarry (for), X thine own.
3303. men men a primary particle; properly, indicative of affirmation or concession (in fact); usually followed by a contrasted clause with 1161 (this one, the former, etc.):--even, indeed, so, some, truly, verily. Often compounded with other particles in an intensive or asseverative sense.