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Featured Is the land restoration to the nation of Israel found in the new covenant?

Discussion in 'Eschatology - Endtimes & Prophecy Forum' started by claninja, Jun 19, 2019.

  1. claninja

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    The promise of the restoration of the nation of Israel is found in the old covenant:

    Deuteronomy 30:1-5 When all these things come upon you—the blessings and curses I have set before you—and you call them to mind in all the nations to which the LORD your God has banished you, and when you and your children return to the LORD your God and obey His voice with all your heart and all your soul according to everything I am giving you today, then He will restore your fortunes and have compassion on you and gather you from all the nations to which the LORD your God has scattered you. Even if you have been banished to the ends of the earth, He will gather you and return you from there. And the LORD your God will bring you into the land your fathers possessed, and you will take possession of it. He will cause you to prosper and multiply more than your fathers. The LORD your God will circumcise your hearts and the hearts of your descendants, and you will love Him with all your heart and all your soul, so that you may live.

    The Old testament prophecies of the restoration of the land of Israel are rooted in the clause of Deuteronomy 30:1-5. Several examples include:

    Jeremiah 29:10-14 For thus says the Lord: When seventy years are completed for Babylon, I will visit you, and I will fulfill to you my promise and bring you back to this place. For I know the plans I have for you, declares the Lord, plans for welfare and not for evil, to give you a future and a hope. Then you will call upon me and come and pray to me, and I will hear you. You will seek me and find me, when you seek me with all your heart. I will be found by you, declares the Lord, and I will restore your fortunes and gather you from all the nations and all the places where I have driven you, declares the Lord, and I will bring you back to the place from which I sent you into exile.

    Ezekiel 39:25-28 Therefore this is what the Lord GOD says: Now I will restore the fortunes of Jacob and will have compassion on the whole house of Israel, and I will be jealous for My holy name. They will forget their disgrace and all the treachery they committed against Me, when they dwell securely in their land, with no one to frighten them. When I bring them back from the peoples and gather them out of the lands of their enemies, I will show My holiness in them in the sight of many nations. Then they will know that I am the LORD their God, when I regather them to their own land, after exiling them among the nations, not leaving any of them behind

    Amos 9:14-15 I will restore the fortunes of my people Israel, and they shall rebuild the ruined cities and inhabit them; they shall plant vineyards and drink their wine, and they shall make gardens and eat their fruit. I will plant them on their land, and they shall never again be uprooted out of the land that I have given them,” says the Lord your God.

    This was found fulfilled once under the old covenant, when those from the southern kingdom and northern kingdom returned to the land after the Babylonian exile.

    Ezra 1:5 Then rose up the heads of the fathers’ houses of Judah and Benjamin, and the priests and the Levites, everyone whose spirit God had stirred to go up to rebuild the house of the Lord that is in Jerusalem.

    1 Chronicles 9:1-4 So all Israel was recorded in genealogies, and these are written in the Book of the Kings of Israel. And Judah was taken into exile in Babylon because of their breach of faith. Now the first to dwell again in their possessions in their cities were Israel, the priests, the Levites, and the temple servants. And some of the people of Judah, Benjamin, Ephraim, and Manasseh lived in Jerusalem: Uthai the son of Ammihud, son of Omri, son of Imri, son of Bani, from the sons of Perez the son of Judah

    However, the old covenant ended and was superseded by the new covenant through the blood of Christ.


    Hebrews 10:9 then he added, “Behold, I have come to do your will.” He does away with the first in order to establish the second

    Hebrews 9:13 In speaking of a new covenant, he makes the first one obsolete. And what is becoming obsolete and growing old is ready to vanish away.

    Additionally, the old covenant was only a shadow that was meant to point to Christ, and not the true reality.

    Hebrews 10:1 For since the law has but a shadow of the good things to come instead of the true form of these realities,

    colossians 2:16-17 Therefore let no one pass judgment on you in questions of food and drink, or with regard to a festival or a new moon or a Sabbath. These are a shadow of the things to come, but the substance belongs to Christ.


    The old covenant is no longer in effect, as it was superseded by the new covenant. Thus, the promises of restoration to the land are no longer a valid.

    an Earthly example to help understand:
    I was single and created a will in which my best friend would inherit my estate in the event of my death. However, I later married and changed that will so that my wife, and not my friend, would inherit my estate in the event of my death. The new will cancels the old will, and thus my best friend would not inherit my estate.


    So is the land restoration to the nation of Israel found in the new covenant?
     
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  2. David Cabrera

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    Even if that were the case, they were supposed to follow God, and since Jews rejected Christ, they cannot follow God
     
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  3. claninja

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    Is the old covenant still in effect or not?
     
  4. Sound Doctrine

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    Yes, the restoration is in the book of Revelation, where during the tribulation of 7 years, God fulfills the Abrahamic covenant with Israel as described in Genesis 12. There were 490 weeks of years to fulfill the covenant as described in Daniel 9, which Jesus referred to in Matthew 24. 483 of those years were fulfilled, then due to Israel's disobedience to God and their rejection of Messiah, God turned His back on Israel. He turns back to Israel during the 7-year tribulation. The second reason for the tribulation is to have His wrath on the unGodly in order to fulfill prophecy and for His name's sake, which is that vengeance is His and He will repay.
     
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  5. David Cabrera

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    It was superceded
     
  6. keras

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    It is the Promises of God to the Patriarchs that are still in effect. He promised them that their descendants would occupy all that Land from the Nile to the Euphrates. The Israelites have never yet done this, as we see in Judges 1:19-36.
    It will happen or God has failed in His Plan to have a people there who would be His witnesses, Isaiah 43:10 and His Light to the nations, Isaiah 49:8. NOW, it is every faithful Christian who is an Israelite by faith, by descent and by faith; Galatians 3:26-29 and we are His witnesses, John 15:27, His light to evangelize the nations, Matthew 5:14-16

    Several prophesies make it clear that the Lord's holy people, now every faithful Christian, 1 Peter 2:9-10, are living in all of the holy Land before Jesus Returns; Daniel 7:23, Revelation 13:7, Zechariah 14:1-2 and in Revelation 12:6-17, it describes the Christian peoples being divided into 2 groups, one going to a place of safety, the other must remain in the Land for the 1260 days of World control by the Anti-Christ. Also described in Daniel 11:32-35
     
  7. claninja

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    None of this states or provides scripture that one of the promises of the new covenant is land restoration to the nation of Israel.

    Per Paul, the Abrahamic promises are to Christ. Notice paul states PLURAL promises.

    Galatians 3:16 The promises were spoken to Abraham and to his seed. The Scripture does not say, “and to seeds,” meaning many, but “and to your seed,” meaning One, who is Christ.
     
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  8. claninja

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    So that means the promises of the new covenant supersede those of the old covenant correct? That would make the promises of the old covenant null and void, since the promises of the new covenant supersede them, correct?
     
  9. David Cabrera

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    You sound suspicious. What's your goal?
     
  10. claninja

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    To show that the promises, specifically the restoration of the nation of Israel to the physical land of Israel as stated in Deuteronomy 30:1-5, under the old covenant are no longer in effect, as they have been superseded by the new covenant and better promises.
     
  11. claninja

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    The promises to the patriarchs are to Christ. Paul doesn't say promise, he says promises (PLURAL).

    Galatians 3:16 The promises were spoken to Abraham and to his seed. The Scripture does not say, “and to seeds,” meaning many, but “and to your seed,” meaning One, who is Christ.

    Abraham's offspring, who is Christ per Paul, was promised the land unconditionally.....

    Genesis 12:7 Then the LORD appeared to Abram and said, “I will give this land to your offspring.” So Abram built an altar there to the LORD, who had appeared to him.

    Genesis 17:8 and to you and your offspring I will give the land of your sojourn—all the land of Canaan—as an eternal possession; and I will be their God.”

    ........While the nation of Israel was promised the land conditionally

    Deuteronomy 28:30 Just as it pleased the LORD to make you prosper and to multiply you, so also it will please Him to exterminate you and destroy you. And you will be uprooted from the land you are entering to possess.

    The israelites, under the old covenant, conditionally occupied all of the land as promised to the fathers.

    Joshua 21:43 Thus the LORD gave Israel all the land He had sworn to give their fathers, and they took possession of it and settled there.

    Jesus is the offspring the land was unconditionally promised to, for he is the heir of all things, and all promises are yes in Christ.

    Hebrews 1:2 But in these last days He has spoken to us by His Son, whom He appointed heir of all things, and through whom He made the universe.

    2 corinthians 1:20 For all the promises of God find their Yes in him. That is why it is through him that we utter our Amen to God for his glory.

    The earth is the Lord's and since Jesus was made Lord, the earth, including the land of israel, is his.

    Acts 2:36 Let all the house of Israel therefore know for certain that God has made him both Lord and Christ, this Jesus whom you crucified.”

    2 corinthians 10:26 For “the earth is the Lord’s, and the fullness thereof.”

    What is a forerunner Keras?

    4274 pródromos (from 4253 /pró, "before" and 1408 /drómos, "a race-course") – properly, a person running ahead (a forerunner) to reach the destination before others – i.e. arriving safely in advance for the benefit of others who also need to get there.

    Where did Jesus arrive in advance as a high priest for the benefit of others who also need to get there?


    hebrews 6:19-20 We have this as a sure and steadfast anchor of the soul, a hope that enters into the inner place behind the curtain, where Jesus has gone as a forerunner on our behalf, having become a high priest forever after the order of Melchizedek.
     
  12. David Cabrera

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    The Christ-denying Jews are not sons of Abraham.
     
  13. claninja

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    i absolutely agree. it is only those who are in Christ that are Abraham's offspring.

    galatains 3:28-29
    There is neither Jew nor Greek, there is neither slaveg nor free, there is no male and female, for you are all one in Christ Jesus. 29And if you are Christ’s, then you are Abraham’s offspring, heirs according to promise.
     
  14. David Cabrera

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    So Christians should be the ones who get the land. :cool:
     
  15. claninja

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    Does Christ own the land right now, from heaven?
     
  16. David Cabrera

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    He owns everything
     
  17. claninja

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    Amen! And from where does he own everything?
     
  18. jgr

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    In God's New Will and Testament, all covenants and promises are fulfilled in Christ and those who are in Christ.

    The OT covenants and promises are the promissory clauses of God's Old Will and Testament, and they are both revoked and fulfilled in the promissory clauses of His New Will and Testament, written in the Blood of His Son Jesus Christ, the Divine Testator, coming into full force and effect upon His death.

    If you have made your own Will and Testament, you will see that the very first clause states the following or its equivalent:

    "I HEREBY REVOKE all former Wills and other testamentary dispositions by me at any time therefore made and declare this to be my Last Will and Testament."

    This means that all former wills and testaments, and all of their promissory clauses in their entirety, are completely null and void. In their place, the promissory clauses of the current last new will and testament are the only ones in force and effect. Any promissory clause which appeared in the old will and testament, but does not appear in the new will and testament, is irrevocably null and void unless yet another new will and testament is made which re-includes it.

    Thus we see:

    Hebrews 9
    15 And for this cause he is the mediator of the new testament, that by means of death, for the redemption of the transgressions that were under the first testament, they which are called might receive the promise of eternal inheritance.
    16 For where a testament is, there must also of necessity be the death of the testator.
    17 For a testament is of force after men are dead: otherwise it is of no strength at all while the testator liveth.

    Hebrews 10
    9 Then said he, Lo, I come to do thy will, O God. He taketh away the first, that he may establish the second.

    Hebrews 8
    13 In that he saith, A new covenant, he hath made the first old. Now that which decayeth and waxeth old is ready to vanish away.

    God`s New Will and Testament is everlasting:

    Hebrews 13
    20 Now the God of peace, that brought again from the dead our Lord Jesus, that great shepherd of the sheep, through the blood of the everlasting covenant.

    There is none greater.

    We see other new promissory clauses of the New Will and Testament in:

    Matthew 21:33-45
    In this parable, the son, who is identified as the heir, typifies Christ.

    Galatians 3:16
    Now to Abraham and his seed were the promises made. He saith not, And to seeds, as of many; but as of one, And to thy seed, which is Christ.

    2 Corinthians 1:20
    For all the promises of God in him are yea, and in him Amen, unto the glory of God by us.

    Hebrews 1:1,2
    1 God, who at sundry times and in divers manners spake in time past unto the fathers by the prophets,
    2 Hath in these last days spoken unto us by his Son, whom he hath appointed heir of all things, by whom also he made the worlds;

    In them, we see that the Heir and Beneficiary is Christ alone, that all of the promises are affirmed and confirmed in Him, and that He is Heir of all things. All includes the OT land promises, the restoration promises, the blessings promises, and all else. There are no exceptions.

    And His New Will and Testament contains even better promises:

    Hebrews 8
    6 But now hath he obtained a more excellent ministry, by how much also he is the mediator of a better covenant, which was established upon better promises.

    Such as:

    Hebrews 11
    16 But now they desire a better country, that is, an heavenly: wherefore God is not ashamed to be called their God: for he hath prepared for them a city.

    Additional promissory clauses in...:

    Romans 8:16-17
    16 The Spirit itself beareth witness with our spirit, that we are the children of God:
    17 And if children, then heirs; heirs of God, and joint-heirs with Christ; if so be that we suffer with him, that we may be also glorified together.

    Galatians 3:29
    And if ye be Christ's, then are ye Abraham's seed, and heirs according to the promise.

    ...make us who are in Christ joint heirs with Him.

    But notice:
    There are no promissory clauses for anyone, Jew or Gentile, who is not in Christ.
     
  19. Douggg

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    The new covenant in Christ is offered to gentiles.

    The gentiles under the new covenant are not included in the land restoration to the nation of Israel - because the church, which includes gentiles, has not replaced Israel. So land restoration is not in the New Testament.

    The new covenant replaces the old covenant as the means to be right with God. It does not cancel the promises made to the children of Israel, regarding the land of Israel.
     
  20. Douggg

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    The Jews were taken into captivity into the nations in the first century for rejecting Jesus.

    God has brought them back to the land of Israel, with Jerusalem as their capital. In the middle of the 7 years of Daniel 9:27 forthcoming, the Jews, Israel will turn to Jesus, embracing the new covenant to be right with God.
     
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