Senator says soon US will look like South American countries -- poll

[Shiloh Raven]

You cant blame modern day whites for what happened years ago. I didn't take your land, I was born here same as you, and in poverty. Im sorry for what happened to your people but its not my fault. What do you want from me? You have the same rights as me. What can I give that you don't already have?

My response to OldWiseGuy wasn't personal against you. It's interesting how you took it personally.

 

[W2L]

My response to OldWiseGuy wasn't personal against you. It's interesting how you took it personally.

Why do you take what happened to native peoples more than a 100 years ago personally?

 

[expos4ever]

The problem is when you only criticize one race for their racism, and ignore others, you prove bigoted yourself.

Please stop bearing false witness. I have clearly indicated that racism goes both ways.

 

[expos4ever]

I’d be calling it out even more directly but I think I’d be banned.

If, repeat IF, management here allow profoundly dangerous racist rhetoric but then suppresses vigorous criticism of such rhetoric, then the site itself has a problem.

 

[Shiloh Raven]

Why do you take what happened to native peoples more than a 100 years ago personally?

You obviously aren't familiar with the social justice, political, and economic issues of Native Americans.

As a veteran NDN activist, with nearly 30 years of experience, let me help you out with that.

PTSD and suicide rates among Native Americans:

Native Americans Facing Highest Suicide Rates

CDC Report Details Suicide Rate in Native Americans

Native Children Have the Same Rate of PTSD as Combat Veterans

Posttraumatic Stress Disorder and Symptoms among American Indians and Alaska Natives

Study Finds American Indian Adults Exposed to Early Life Trauma More Likely to Develop PTSD

Native youth have the HIGHEST rate of suicide in the country:

Native American Youth Suicide Rates Are At Crisis Levels

Suicide among young American Indians nearly double national rate

Suicide Rates Among Native American Adolescents Have Reached 'Crisis Level': CDC

Native Americans and Police Brutality:

Native Americans: The forgotten minority in police shootings

Native Lives Matter: The Overlooked Police Brutality Against Native Americans

Police are Killing Native Americans at Higher Rate than Any Race, and Nobody is Talking About It

Navajo Nation Water Crisis:

Flint Is Not The Only Water Crisis America Ignored

Water Hole: No Running Water on Navajo Nation Reservation

Water poverty on U.S. soil: why the Navajo Nation water crisis should shame us all

Aim to privatize Indian Reservations:

Tribes watch GOP effort to wrest control of federal land

Trump advisors aim to privatize oil-rich Indian reservations

Proposed Federal Bill to Indian Land Grab:

Federal Bill Seeks First Native American Land Grab in 100 Years

Ute Tribe: Utah Republican Pushes Modern Day Indian Land Grab

Oak Flat Apache tribal land:

Sen. McCain deemed responsible for land swap at sacred Oak Flat

Trump administration set to advance copper mine on sacred Apache site

Protecting tribal lands from the encroachment of greed oil companies:

Native American Tribes File Lawsuit Seeking To Invalidate Keystone XL Pipeline Permit

Cheyenne River Sioux Tribe: President Trump Lies About Working With Tribes On DAPL​

Border Wall on Tohono O’odham Nation Tribal Land: ​

Border Wall Threatens Native American Sovereignty

Trump's Border Wall Could Carve Path Through Native American Lands

American Indians fear U.S.-Mexico border wall will destroy ancient culture

Native American Tribe on U.S.-Mexico Border Blocks Trump's National Guard Troops From Its Lands

Current Political Issues with Donald Trump:

The Horror of Trump’s Wounded Knee Tweet

Trump challenges Native Americans’ historical standing

Trump’s Direct Assault on Native American Tribal Sovereignty

Trump is breaking the federal government's promises to Native Americans

Andrew Jackson was called ‘Indian killer.’ Trump honored Navajos in front of his portrait.

Why do you take what happened to native peoples more than a 100 years ago personally?

You also seem unaware of the historical and intergenerational trauma among Native Americans.

Intergenerational Trauma In Native American Communities

Intergenerational Trauma: Understanding Natives’ Inherited Pain

Cultural Issues in Historical Trauma and Implications for Youth at Risk

The Psychological Impact of Historical Trauma On the Native American People

Historical Trauma Among Native Americans: What Social Providers Need to Know​

 

[OldWiseGuy]

No idea what you are talking about...?

I'm just giving you my advice regarding the racism problem. Someone has to change. The question is who will change first.

 

[expos4ever]

Where are we? Here are the facts:

The OP is clearly an appeal to racist sentiments.

No retraction from MBob, no disavowal from from those here on the right. W2L for example has consistently refused to disavow the OP. He or she has raised other related issues. Ok, fine.

But the silence from all here on the right to distance themselves from the OP is a devastating indictment for them.

 

[W2L]

Please stop bearing false witness. I have clearly indicated that racism goes both ways.

But when was the last time you exposed racism other than that by whites?

 

[Shiloh Raven]

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[Gigimo]

South America maybe?

If you do away with the electoral college it sure will in a big hurry.

 

[expos4ever]

But when was the last time you exposed racism other than that by whites?

I do point this out at times. All I am doing is drawing attention to the fact that the OP appeals to racist sentiments. To acknowledge this is not to deny there is racism in the other direction.

 

[Gigimo]

It is a shame that my fellow white Americans, many times, fail to apply themselves at the same rate as those immigrants do.

Too many participation trophies caused that.

 

[W2L]

You obviously aren't familiar with the social justice, political, and economic issues of Native Americans.

As a veteran NDN activist, with nearly 30 years of experience, let me help you out with that.

PTSD and suicide rates among Native Americans:

Native Americans Facing Highest Suicide Rates

CDC Report Details Suicide Rate in Native Americans

Native Children Have the Same Rate of PTSD as Combat Veterans

Posttraumatic Stress Disorder and Symptoms among American Indians and Alaska Natives

Study Finds American Indian Adults Exposed to Early Life Trauma More Likely to Develop PTSD

Native youth have the HIGHEST rate of suicide in the country:

Native American Youth Suicide Rates Are At Crisis Levels

Suicide among young American Indians nearly double national rate

Suicide Rates Among Native American Adolescents Have Reached 'Crisis Level': CDC

Native Americans and Police Brutality:

Native Americans: The forgotten minority in police shootings

Native Lives Matter: The Overlooked Police Brutality Against Native Americans

Police are Killing Native Americans at Higher Rate than Any Race, and Nobody is Talking About It

Navajo Nation Water Crisis:

Flint Is Not The Only Water Crisis America Ignored

Water Hole: No Running Water on Navajo Nation Reservation

Water poverty on U.S. soil: why the Navajo Nation water crisis should shame us all

Aim to privatize Indian Reservations:

Tribes watch GOP effort to wrest control of federal land

Trump advisors aim to privatize oil-rich Indian reservations

Proposed Federal Bill to Indian Land Grab:

Federal Bill Seeks First Native American Land Grab in 100 Years

Ute Tribe: Utah Republican Pushes Modern Day Indian Land Grab

Oak Flat Apache tribal land:

Sen. McCain deemed responsible for land swap at sacred Oak Flat

Trump administration set to advance copper mine on sacred Apache site

Protecting tribal lands from the encroachment of greed oil companies:

Native American Tribes File Lawsuit Seeking To Invalidate Keystone XL Pipeline Permit

Cheyenne River Sioux Tribe: President Trump Lies About Working With Tribes On DAPL​

Border Wall on Tohono O’odham Nation Tribal Land: ​

Border Wall Threatens Native American Sovereignty

Trump's Border Wall Could Carve Path Through Native American Lands

American Indians fear U.S.-Mexico border wall will destroy ancient culture

Native American Tribe on U.S.-Mexico Border Blocks Trump's National Guard Troops From Its Lands

Current Political Issues with Donald Trump:

The Horror of Trump’s Wounded Knee Tweet

Trump challenges Native Americans’ historical standing

Trump’s Direct Assault on Native American Tribal Sovereignty

Trump is breaking the federal government's promises to Native Americans

Andrew Jackson was called ‘Indian killer.’ Trump honored Navajos in front of his portrait. ​

So trump is responsible for PTSD? Whos at fault for mine?

 

[OldWiseGuy]

You obviously aren't familiar with the social justice, political, and economic issues of Native Americans.

As a veteran NDN activist, with nearly 30 years of experience, let me help you out with that.


Water Hole: No Running Water on Navajo Nation Reservation

I read this link. It's not the problem the title suggests.

 

[W2L]

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Sure trauma when they lost the wars and or their land over a hundred years ago, I get that, but how have natives been traumatized lately? By what exactly?

 

[OldWiseGuy]

The OP is clearly an appeal to racist sentiments.

More nationalism than racism.

But the silence from all here on the right to distance themselves from the OP is a devastating indictment for them.

I don't see how much more the right can be 'devastated' by such 'indictments'. We're being indicted to death.

 

[Shiloh Raven]

So trump is responsible for PTSD? Whos at fault for mine?

Where did I even remotely suggest that Trump was responsible for PTSD? SMH.

 

[Shiloh Raven]

I read this link. It's not the problem the title suggests.

The article is about the 40 percent of Navajo Nation members who don’t have access to running water in their homes. It also discusses how some of the Navajo tribal members don't trust the Navajo Nation Environmental Protection Agency or trust the drinking water because they believe the water has been contaminated by now-abandoned uranium mining. I thought it was a very informative article to read.

 

[W2L]

Where did I even remotely suggest that Trump was responsible for PTSD? SMH.

Natives are traumatized by things that happened 150 years ago?

 

[W2L]

The article is about the 40 percent of Navajo Nation members who don’t have access to running water in their homes. It also discusses how some of the Navajo tribal members don't trust the Navajo Nation Environmental Protection Agency or trust the drinking water because they believe the water has been contaminated by now-abandoned uranium mining. I thought it was a very informative article to read.

Why don't they have running water? Don't their leaders know how to drill wells and run indoor plumbing? Or is it because of the EPA conspiracy theory you mention?

 

[expos4ever]

More nationalism than racism.

No. Repeated references to how people look (see below)

I don't see how much more the right can be 'devastated' by such 'indictments'. We're being indicted to death.

It is no surprise that you are in denial. But denial you most certainly are in, whether you concede it or not.

The transcript of the thread is clear: the MBob is appealing to concerns about how people LOOK:

Republican Arizona state senator says US will 'look like South American countries' soon

Well, from my looking around in San Diego County where we live and in Tuscaloosa County Alabama were my brother and family live, I would say she is spot right on.

Look: MBob got caught appealing to racist sentiments - whether intended or not, the language above appeals to how people LOOK.