I said
Gender is not real, it’s a social construct based on some subjective imaginations, that vary from person to person. I don’t think the concept of gender as is being redefined should be taken seriously by society.
You responded
A transgender person is simply saying that even though I am a biological man I identify with the social ideas of femininity as agreed upon by society.
Now here I disagreed with the idea there are social ideas of femininity as agreed upon by society. That is why I asked you to list some roles that only apply to men, and some that only apply to women. (perhaps I should have phrased it; social ideas of femininity as agreed upon by society, but I don’t see the difference between that and roles)
Roles and ideas of femininity are different. Roles are what a person does and ideas of femininity are how people think and act. At least this is what I am getting at. I did say this to answer this question:
I am not talking about gender roles or anything that 100% only applies to one gender. I am talking about personality traits, preferences etc. In our society it is acceptable for most women to wear dresses or skirts, most men do not want to wear dresses. Makeup is the same way, most men don't want to wear makeup in the same way they most women do. It is about how men and women are different in their personalities etc.
Now that above quote of mine I am talking generalities, averages. Ask most men if they want to wear a dress and most men will say no.
You responded by listing what men on average will gravitate towards, vs what women on average will gravitate towards; but this is not what I was asking!
But that is what I was talking about. I was not ever talking about specific roles for only men and only women. I probably was not clear enough.
If you are going to agree that there are social ideas of femininity that society has agreed upon, I would like you to list some of these ideas of femininity that society has agreed up on, not what men and women gravitate towards.
Can you do that?
I did above. There are lots of things that we associate with girls and boys, man and women whether we should or not is another topic but we still have these ideas in our heads. And some are valid for most genders. Some may not like the fact that we associate certain preferences to women and some to men but this is based on what we have experienced.
It is also a fact that men, especially young men, are more risk takers than women in general. Also, my wife has different emotional needs in a marriage than I do and most of her friends are the same way as well as mine. Surveys say that women are different than men in a lot of ways. This is not a bad thing but any good husband needs to recognize the differences and understand them. Two great books my wife and I read are "For Men Only" and "For Women Only". These two books have a lot of research that shows these general differences between the genders. These books were written by Christians. Men's and women's brains are different, the produce different attributes because they are physically different. Different parts of women's and men's brains have different relative size, interconnections, chemistry etc. and these differences cause these differences in gender attributes.
Nirao Shah, PhD has studied these brain differences his entire career and he says: "We think gender-specific behavior is a composite of all these modules, which, added up, give you your overall degree of maleness and femaleness,”
How men's and women's brains are different
Maleness and femaleness is a combination of culture and biology, but these differences do exist and they are on a continuum not one or the other, all people have empathy, openness, extravertness etc. but to different degrees.
PS I apologize if I offended you that wasn't my intent. I was calling the ideas you were espousing sexist, I didn't mean it as a personal attack against you.
Ok,no problem. But I disagree that my ideas were sexist when I used facts to back them up.