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Hello, so there is only ONE Land God promised to Abraham, Isaac, Jacob (Israel) and the Israelites...So you believe the gentiles in the 1st century were inheriting the physical promise land of Israel through Christ, while they dwelled on earth in the flesh?
Ephesian 2:12-13 remember that at that time you were separate from Christ, alienated from the commonwealth of Israel, and strangers to the covenants of the promise, without hope and without God in the world. But NOW in Christ Jesus you who once were far away have been brought near through the blood of Christ.
The promise land to Abraham and his offspring is reiterated a couple times:
Genesis 12:7 Then the LORD appeared to Abram and said, “I will give this land to your offspring.”
Genesis 15:18 On that day the LORD made a covenant with Abram, saying, “To your offspring I have given this land—from the river of Egypt to the great River Euphrates— the land of the Kenites, Kenizzites, Kadmonites, Hittites, Perizzites, Rephaites,Amorites, Canaanites, Girgashites, and Jebusites.”
Genesis 17:8 And to you and your offspring I will give the land of your sojourn—all the land of Canaan—as an eternal possession; and I will be their God.”
The promise land to Isaac and his offspring is reiterated:
Genesis 26:3-4 Sojourn in this land, and I will be with you and will bless you, for to you and to your offspring I will give all these lands, and I will establish the oath that I swore to Abraham your father. I will multiply your offspring as the stars of heaven and will give to your offspring all these lands. And in your offspring all the nations of the earth shall be blessed, because Abraham obeyed my voice and kept my charge, my commandments, my statutes, and my laws.”
The promise land to Jacob and his offspring is reiterated:
Genesis 28:13 And behold, the Lord stood above itc and said, “I am the Lord, the God of Abraham your father and the God of Isaac. The land on which you lie I will give to you and to your offspring.
Genesis 48:4 and said to me, ‘Behold, I will make you fruitful and multiply you, and I will make of you a company of peoples and will give this land to your offspring after you for an everlasting possession
Notice God directly speaks to Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob with the promise of the land to them and their offspring as an eternal possession.
Where does God speak directly to the 12 sons of Jacob that the land would be their eternal possession?
We see that God speaks directly to Moses. He specifically states He would bring the nation of Israel into the land that he swore TO ABRAHAM, ISAAC, and JACOB. He does NOT say that he would bring them into the land He swore to them.
God, 430 years later, simply tells Moses he would give it to them as a possession
Exodus 6:8 I will bring you into the land that I swore to give to Abraham, to Isaac, and to Jacob. I will give it to you for a possession. I am the Lord.’”
However, The gift of the promise land to the nation of Israel is CONDITIONAL upon the nation of Israel's obedience. Unlike the unconditional promises spoken to Abraham, Isaac, Jacob, and the Offspring who is Christ.
Deuteronomy 38:23 And as the Lord took delight in doing you good and multiplying you, so the Lord will take delight in bringing ruin upon you and destroying you. And you shall be plucked off the land that you are entering to take possession of it.
Incorrect, Galatians 3:16 does NOT say promise as in singular, it says PROMISES, as in PLURAL. the greek word for promises in this verse is plural. The PLURAL promises to Abraham and his offspring are to Christ.
Galatians 3:16 the promises were made to Abraham and to his offspring. It does not say, “And to offsprings,” referring to many, but referring to one, “And to your offspring,” who is Christ.
At the right hand of the Father in heaven.
I agree.
Good, we agree that Christ, the offspring to whom the promises were spoken, who is in heaven, currently owns the land.
Jesus went to haven on our behalf as a forerunner. Do you know what a forerunner is?
Hebrews 6:20 where Jesus has gone as a forerunner on our behalf, having become a high priest forever after the order of Melchizedek.
4274 pródromos (from 4253 /pró, "before" and 1408 /drómos, "a race-course") – properly, a person running ahead (a forerunner) to reach the destination before others – i.e. arriving safely in advance for the benefit of others who also need to get there.
So Jesus, went to heaven in advance for the benefit of others who also need to get there.
So If Jesus went to heaven in advance before we do, and he owns the land, from where are we coheirs with Christ?
One promise land throughout the Bible...
The land was given by God as a Promise...meaning that God will fulfill what He promised to Abraham and to his offspring....Genesis 12..God spoke to Abraham.."Go from your country, your people and your father's household to the land I will show you...
I will make you into a great nation...
I will bless you...
I will make your name great...
I will bless those who bless you...
Genesis 12:7.. I will give this land...etc
Notice: it's All God promises
Was the land have conditions?
The condition is to believe that God will fulfill All that He had promised..that is Faith- "certainty or assurance about what we do not see"...Hebrew 11
Galatians 3:8.." Scriptures foresaw that God would justify the Gentiles by faith, announced the Gospel in advance to Abraham " ALL nations will be blessed through you". Gen 12
So those who rely on Faith are blessed along with Abraham, the man of Faith...
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