The Righterzpen
Jesus is my Shield in any Desert or Storm
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I've read quite often the new Testament. According to my translation, everyone without Jesus is going to the Lake of Fire to be tormented in eternity. But i think i stated it in my first post, that i start to mistrust the bible, like not entirely, but i think that a very small percentage might be falsified by satan. And that could result like in a mathematical function. It could be very long, and good and right, but if there is a single signedness error the function could go in the negative instead of the positive. The devil is in the detail.
And in any german translation, as iam german, you don't find the term "lucifer". But instead you find the morning star. Who else is described as the morning star? Jesus calls himself morningstar. Is Jesus Lucifer? There is a whole lot of deception out there, that's why i don't want to blindly trust. There is a german bible with a hidden reversed pentagram on it's front cover. If satan can infiltrate one translation, can he also infiltrate others? Possibly. That's why i wrote: the early disciples didn't have a new testament, but they had the holy spirit to guide them. And I pray to be led in all truth and more and more lies are revealed to my mind....
Translations can be inaccurate. This is true. Although I'm not inclined to think all the translators made these errors deliberately. Although I will concede to the fact that there are translations that are purposefully misleading.
So, I'll show you how I study the Bible.
First look at the entire passage, because Isaiah 14:4 actually answers the question for you. It says: ".... take up this proverb against the king of Babylon..."
So what this tells us is "the king of Babylon" is equated to "Lucifer".
Now you are correct that "Lucifer" is only used one time in many English translations. And it comes from a Hebrew word that is translated as:
"praise" 117X
"glory" 14X
"boast" 10X
"mad" 8X
"shine" 3X
"foolish" 3X
"fools" 2X
"commend" 2X
"rage" 2X
"celebrate" 1X
"give" 1X
"marriage" 1X
"renowned" 1X
Now if we just look at these words; we get kind of an idea. Now we could go and look up all these words to see what context they are used in. (And if you really want to be through about it - than yeah - you can do that.) From the surface though; it looks like something that "shines forth" either via it's intrinsic value; or it "shines forth" because it thinks it's important.
Now go back and look at the king of Babylon. Nebuchadnezzar was struck down with madness because he'd become proud. In the end he says: God, I now know You alone are God.
Now "morning star" is only used 3 places in the Bible
Job 38:7
Revelation 2:28
Revelation 22:16
Yet "son of the morning" is not the same as "morning star". And no where is Nebuchadnezzar equated to Jesus. Babylon though is equated to Satan in Revelation 13. "Babylon the mother of harlots" is riding a "beast". The beast is a system that gets its power from Satan. It's an A=B, B=C, So A=C. (Lucifer = Babylon), (Babylon = Satan), (Lucifer = Satan) Historically speaking though, the passage is addressing Nebuchadnezzar.
Also historically speaking; what adds itself unto the beast system comes out of the Babylonian captivity. The Mishnah, the Talmud, Rabbinic Judaism all have their penned historical roots in Babylon.
Now "tradition" will tell you that the Mishnah goes back to Moses; yet we have no historical or Biblical evidence of that. The Mishnah is (allegedly) the "oral law". It is said to go back to Moses and although it is possible there were oral traditions carried over from the days of Moses, the origin of "oral tradition" can only be verified from the point that it was written down. (Thus it is no longer "oral tradition", it is written tradition - and thus "pin down(able)")
So compare Isaiah 14 to Revelation 14 and Revelation 16-18. Babylon the mother of harlots is the city of Jerusalem. We know this from passages in Revelation.
Now all of this being said; this gives you a good indication as to why you need to pay attention to details. When ever I study something; I never assume that I understand what it means until I've researched it. And I research the Bible by using the Bible. If you want to know what a passage in the Bible means; you will find the answer somewhere else in the Bible. The Bible is very cleverly written but you have to pay attention to the details and don't assume two things mean the same thing (Such as "son of the morning" and "morning star".)
Now I'm sure there are German / Hebrew & German / Greek concordances. So you can do this - looking at it all in German; which doing it that way, will probably make it make more sense to you. Because after all; looking at the book of Acts, the Holy Spirit used the apostles to speak to the people in their native languages.
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