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Taking everything you have written and believe into account, what is your walk through outline for Ezekiel 38-39?Good, at least we agree on the most important part
Depends on the identity of Gog and his multitude, right? Who is Gog?
Ezekiel 38:2 Son of man, set your face toward Gog, of the land of Magog, the chief prince of Meshech and Tubal, and prophesy against him
Ezekiel 39:1 And you, son of man, prophesy against Gog and say, Thus says the Lord God: Behold, I am against you, O Gog, chief prince of Meshech and Tubal
Did Gog exist during the time of Ezekiel? Is Gog solely a future human ruler? Is Gog Satan? Is Gog the beast? Is Gog the antichrist?
Are there scriptures that help us identify Gog, outside of Ezekiel?
Depends on the identity of Gog, right? We would probably need to agree on the identity before we can somehow attempt to "prove it".
Absolutely agree. So let's not speculate if we can help, but use scripture to interpret scripture.
If we look first at Ezekiel 38, we see Gog, of Magog, will lead a horde that covers the land against God's people. Then we see in Revelation, that after the 1000 years, Satan leads an army from the four corners of the earth, Gog and Magog, across the plain of the earth against God's people. With this, we can see that Satan has to do with Gog and Magog and hordes of armies. Ezekiel has Gog as the leader, and revelation has Satan as the leader. Thus, this would be evidence that Satan is Gog or related to Gog.
Ezekiel 38:2,8-9 Son of man, set your face toward Gog, of the land of Magog, the chief prince of Meshech and Tubal, and prophesy against him. After many days you will be mustered. In the latter years you will go against the land that is restored from war, the land whose people were gathered from many peoples upon the mountains of Israel, which had been a continual waste. Its people were brought out from the peoples and now dwell securely, all of them. You will advance, coming on like a storm. You will be like a cloud covering the land, you and all your hordes, and many peoples with you.
Revelation 20:7-9 And when the thousand years are ended, Satan will be released from his prison and will come out to deceive the nations that are at the four corners of the earth, Gog and Magog, to gather them for battle; their number is like the sand of the sea. And they marched up over the broad plain of the earth and surrounded the camp of the saints and the beloved city, but fire came down from heaven and consumed them
Using Peter and Paul we can see that the destruction of Satan was still future to them in the first century.
1 peter 5:8 Be sober-minded; be watchful. Your adversary the devil prowls around like a roaring lion, seeking someone to devour.
2 thessalonians 2:9 The coming of the lawless is by the activity of Satan with all power and false signs and wonders,
Romans 16:20 The God of peace will soon crush Satan under your feet. The grace of our Lord Jesus Christ be with you.
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When we turn to Ezekiel 39 we see that God brings Gog from "uttermost" parts of the North against Israel, and on the mountains of Israel is where God strikes them down to be given to the Birds and Beasts. This is mentioned in Revelation, where Jesus defeats the Beast, the kings of the earth, and their armies. Thus, this would be evidence that Gog is related to the beast, the kings of the earth, and their armies.
Ezekiel 39:2-4,17 And I will turn you about and drive you forward, and bring you up from the uttermost parts of the north, and lead you against the mountains of Israel. Then I will strike your bow from your left hand, and will make your arrows drop out of your right hand. You shall fall on the mountains of Israel, you and all your hordes and the peoples who are with you. I will give you to birds of prey of every sort and to the beasts of the field to be devoured. As for you, son of man, thus says the Lord God: Speak to the birds of every sort and to all beasts of the field: ‘Assemble and come, gather from all around to the sacrificial feast that I am preparing for you
Revelation 19:15-19 From his mouth comes a sharp sword with which to strike down the nations, and he will rulec them with a rod of iron. He will tread the winepress of the fury of the wrath of God the Almighty. On his robe and on his thigh he has a name written, King of kings and Lord of lords. Then I saw an angel standing in the sun, and with a loud voice he called to all the birds that fly directly overhead, “Come, gather for the great supper of God, to eat the flesh of kings, the flesh of captains, the flesh of mighty men, the flesh of horses and their riders, and the flesh of all men, both free and slave,d both small and great.” And I saw the beast and the kings of the earth with their armies gathered to make war against him who was sitting on the horse and against his army.
We can see that Jesus defeats them (the beast, the kings of the earth, and their amries) with the Gospel in revelation.
Revelation 19:15,21 From his mouth comes a sharp sword with which to strike down the nations. And the rest were slain by the sword that came from the mouth of him who was sitting on the horse, and all the birds were gorged with their flesh.
Hebrews 4:12-13 For the word of God is living and active, sharper than any two-edged sword, piercing to the division of soul and of spirit, of joints and of marrow, and discerning the thoughts and intentions of the heart. And no creature is hidden from his sight, but all are naked and exposed to the eyes of him to whom we must give account.
We can see that the kings of the earth and rulers set out against God, through the crucifixion of Christ.
Acts 4:25-28 who through the mouth of our father David, your servant, said by the Holy Spirit,
“‘Why did the Gentiles rage, and the peoples plot in vain? The kings of the earth set themselves,
and the rulers were gathered together, against the Lord and against his Anointed’—for truly in this city there were gathered together against your holy servant Jesus, whom you anointed, both Herod and Pontius Pilate, along with the Gentiles and the peoples of Israel, to do whatever your hand and your plan had predestined to take place
And through the work of the Cross and Gospel, God disarmed and triumphed over the rulers and authorities. He destroyed the works of Devil. He bound the strong man.
Colossians 2:14-15 by canceling the record of debt that stood against us with its legal demands. This he set aside, nailing it to the cross. He disarmed the rulers and authorities and put them to open shame, by triumphing over them in him.
1 John 3:9 The reason the Son of God appeared was to destroy the works of the devil
We can even see the words of eternal life in Ezekiel 39.
Ezekiel 39:19 And you shall eat fat till you are filled, and drink blood till you are drunk, at the sacrificial feast that I am preparing for you
John 6:54-56 Whoever feeds on my flesh and drinks my blood has eternal life, and I will raise him up on the last day. For my flesh is true food, and my blood is true drink. Whoever feeds on my flesh and drinks my blood abides in me, and I in him.
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So what does Ezekiel 38-39 this point to?
1.) the identity of Gog
As revealed by revelation, Gog is associated with Satan, the beast, the kings of the earth, and their armies.
2.) The triumph of God over Gog through his sacrifice
Jesus, who the kings and rulers of the earth set out against through the power of satan, as predestined by God, disarmed and triumphed over them through the Gospel.
I actually agree.
I believe the judgment of Gog began at the cross
John 12:31-32 Now judgment is upon this world; now the prince of this world will be cast out. And I, when I am lifted up from the earth, will draw all men to Myself.”
The holy spirit was poured out on Israel after the cross.
Acts 2:4 And they were all filled with the Holy Spirit and began to speak in other tongues as the Spirit enabled them.
I am looking for something from you like this... or do you agree with my outline walk though?
Israel will be living at rest and safely before Gog/Magog takes place, Ezekiel 38:8-11
Gog/Magog takes place - Ezekiel 38
Gog's army is destroyed - Ezekiel 39:4
Then the cleanup, followed by 7 years - Ezekiel 39:9-16
Then those 7 years (the great tribulation takes place during the second half of the 7 years)
Then Armageddon - Ezekiel 39:17-20
Jesus returned to earth - Ezekiel 39:21-29.
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