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Dave, really, why are you continuing with this?Spears? Horses? to steal their Cattle? And you are a literalist?
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Dave, really, why are you continuing with this?Spears? Horses? to steal their Cattle? And you are a literalist?
If you believe Jesus was a Jew - then John 1:11 informs you.What are the criteria that God will use to determine who is the Israel that will be saved?
1. Jewish DNA
2. Jewish religion
3. Jewish culture
4. Faith in the Son of God unto salvation
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Because it shows how you take already fulfilled prophecies, rewrite them and use them to predict the future with.Dave, really, why are you continuing with this?
No, it doesn't. It shows how desperate you are to hold onto a position that doesn't line up with Ezekiel 39:21-29.Because it shows how you take already fulfilled prophecies, rewrite them and use them to predict the future with.
There has been no break in the Jews' rejection of Jesus since the first century,
Bab2, you are ignoring Ezekiel 39:21-29, Jesus Himself speaking. All of the house of Israel in Acts means some from each of the twelve tribes.Ignore the about 3,000 from "all the house of Israel" on the Day of Pentecost, and ignore Romans 11:1-5, and ignore the Book of Hebrews, and ignore James 1:1-3, and maybe you can get your version to work...
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If you believe Jesus was a Jew - then John 1:11 informs you.
John 1:11 He came unto his own, and his own received him not.
There has been no break in the Jews' rejection of Jesus since the first century, and no breaks in them wanting to return to Israel. Which by the Will of God has taken place in these end times, and Israel a nation again.
1) the kingdom is spiritual, not physical.
3) only believers in Christ are biblical Israel.
4) There is no gap between Daniel's 69th and 70th weeks.
5) Jesus fulfilled the 70th week offering himself in the middle of it as the only real sacrifice for sins.
6) the great tribulation happened in 70 AD and was Jewish, not gentile in scope.
7) the book of Revelation covers the time between the first and second advent followed by a view of the New Heavens and earth. If you can get these facts straight, you will begin to understand eschatology.
The contextual definition of "own" (Greek "idios") in John 1:11 is the fellow countrymen and associates of one's native land, e.g. the residents of the land of Israel.
Thus God's criterion for determining who He includes in Israel is that the individual must reside within the land of Israel.
Also, what about Armegeddon....horses, chariots and swords are used....Right, Gog and Magog are going to raid Israel with spears and horses and steel their cattle?
What are the criteria that God will use to determine who is the Israel that will be saved?
1. Jewish DNA
2. Jewish religion
3. Jewish culture
4. Faith in the Son of God unto salvation
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But in what sense? Obviously not in every sense, as Paul clearly refers to unbelieving jews. There is a sense in which Paul differentiates between believing and unbelieving Israel. God does this all throughout history differentiating the remnant (Romans 11:1-6). But God also acknowledges unbelieving Israel.
Rom. 11:25 I do not want you to be ignorant of this mystery, brothers and sisters, so that you may not be conceited: Israel has experienced a hardening in part until the full number of the Gentiles has come in, 26 and in this way all Israel will be saved. As it is written:
“The deliverer will come from Zion;
he will turn godlessness away from Jacob.
You've gone further than this, eliminating unbelieving Israel. Paul directly refutes you in this manner.
Really, jgr? That's your rationale?
Really, jgr? That's your rationale?
Come to grips with your position is doesn't fit with Ezekiel 39:21-29. Them who hold the same as you, have misconstrued new testament passages to think that the church has become Israel and gentiles have become Jews.
Jesus's people were the Jews. John 1:11 He came unto his own, and his own received him not.
John 19:18 Where they crucified him, and two other with him, on either side one, and Jesus in the midst.
19 And Pilate wrote a title, and put it on the cross. And the writing was, JESUS OF NAZARETH THE KING OF THE JEWS.
20 This title then read many of the Jews: for the place where Jesus was crucified was nigh to the city: and it was written in Hebrew, and Greek, and Latin.
21 Then said the chief priests of the Jews to Pilate, Write not, The King of the Jews; but that he said, I am King of the Jews.
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Just come on over to the realists' side and watch what is going on with Israel and Europe, and the Gog/Magog nations.
Rom 11:23 And they also, if they do not continue in unbelief, will be grafted in, for God is able to graft them in again.
Rom 11:24 For if you were cut out of the olive tree which is wild by nature, and were grafted contrary to nature into a cultivated olive tree, how much more will these, who are natural branches, be grafted into their own olive tree?
Rom 11:25 For I do not desire, brethren, that you should be ignorant of this mystery, lest you should be wise in your own opinion, that blindness in part has happened to Israel until the fullness of the Gentiles has come in.
Rom 11:26 And so all Israel will be saved, as it is written: "THE DELIVERER WILL COME OUT OF ZION, AND HE WILL TURN AWAY UNGODLINESS FROM JACOB;
Rom 11:27 FOR THIS IS MY COVENANT WITH THEM, WHEN I TAKE AWAY THEIR SINS."
See the passage below to find out if the verse above was fulfilled during the first century.
Heb 10:16 "THIS IS THE COVENANT THAT I WILL MAKE WITH THEM AFTER THOSE DAYS, SAYS THE LORD: I WILL PUT MY LAWS INTO THEIR HEARTS, AND IN THEIR MINDS I WILL WRITE THEM,"
Heb 10:17 then He adds, "THEIR SINS AND THEIR LAWLESS DEEDS I WILL REMEMBER NO MORE."
(Quoted from the promise of the New Covenant found in je
Heb 10:18 Now where there is remission of these, there is no longer an offering for sin.
God`s word tells us who are those Jews who come through the tribulation.
Matthew 10:5 These twelve Jesus sent forth, and commanded them, saying, Go not into the way of the Gentiles, and into any city of the Samaritans enter ye not:Did it occur to you to click the link on "idios", Douggg?
Do that before opining.
Then attempt to answer my questions, if you're willing.
How about adding - Jesus's own who received him not, John 1:11, who God has taken out of the nations back to their own land of Israel, who's religion is Judaism.1. Jewish DNA
2. Jewish religion
3. Jewish culture
4. Residence within the land of Israel
5. Faith in the Son of God unto salvation
That's option 2, and it's not Judaism, it's Babylonian Talmudism, which says Jesus is boiling in feces in hell.How about adding - Jesus's own who received him not, John 1:11, who God has taken out of the nations back to their own land of Israel, who's religion is Judaism.