MARK OF THE BEAST - REVELATION 13-14; 17; 18

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I am aware that you are doing a conversion of 42 months to 1260 days and the conversion formula you are using. But the issue is not one of math. What I am pointing out is in Revelation specifically, the different time expressions are used for a reason - because the 42 months is not exactly 1260 days when placed on a timeline of events and the 3 1/2 days of the two witnesses laying dead in streets is taken into account.

Brother these scriptures are talking about exactly the same time periods and the fit perfectly with much that has been shared with you already and to the MARK of the BEAST and the Roman Catholic Church.

A day being one year - the rationale SDA uses , it takes specific cases stated in the text of a day being a year, and applies that application universally - which is the fallacy in their rationale. It should be obvious that is wrong by the two witnesses's bodies laying dead in the streets of Jerusalem, as people celebrate their deaths, that SDA concept of a day is a year is wrong.

Sorry brother God's WORD disagrees with you. Unless you have some scripture to support your opinion then you are adding to God's WORD and breaking the rules of prophetic interpretation of the scriptures *2 PETER 1:20

NUMBERS 14:34 After the number of the days in which ye searched the land, even forty days, each day for a year, shall ye bear your iniquities, even forty years, and ye shall know my breach of promise.

and again...

EZEKIEL 4:6 And when thou hast accomplished them, lie again on thy right side, and thou shalt bear the iniquity of the house of Judah forty days: I have appointed thee each day for a year.

Yep seem like there is plenty of biblical support here. In fact if you are interested if you look at the prophecy in DANIEL 9:24-27 we can trace it exactly to the Messiah. Let me know if your interested happy to share the timeline applying the day = a year bible guide?

Thanks for sharing yout thoughts here brother.

May God bless you as you seek him through his Word.
 
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Brother these scriptures are talking about exactly the same time periods and the fit perfectly with much that has been shared with you already and to the MARK of the BEAST and the Roman Catholic Church.



Sorry brother God's WORD disagrees with you. Unless you have some scripture to support your opinion then you are adding to God's WORD and breaking the rules of prophetic interpretation of the scriptures *2 PETER 1:20

NUMBERS 14:34 After the number of the days in which ye searched the land, even forty days, each day for a year, shall ye bear your iniquities, even forty years, and ye shall know my breach of promise.

and again...

EZEKIEL 4:6 And when thou hast accomplished them, lie again on thy right side, and thou shalt bear the iniquity of the house of Judah forty days: I have appointed thee each day for a year.

Yep seem like there is plenty of biblical support here. In fact if you are interested if you look at the prophecy in DANIEL 9:24-27 we can trace it exactly to the Messiah. Let me know if your interested happy to share the timeline applying the day = a year bible guide?

Thanks for sharing yout thoughts here brother.

May God bless you as you seek him through his Word.
Numbers 14:34 40 days garnered 40 years, and Ezekiel 4:6 laying on his side to show 40 years - only applies to those specific occasions. And it had to be stated in the text for those specific occasion, because it is not a universal bible principle.

Take away that one principle, it leaves SDA theory that the pope/papacy is the Antichrist in a difficult spot.

What is your view of what is the covenant in Daniel 9:27?
 
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Numbers 14:34 40 days garnered 40 years, and Ezekiel 4:6 laying on his side to show 40 years - only applies to those specific occasions. And it had to be stated in the text for those specific occasion, because it is not a universal bible principle.

Take away that one principle, it leaves SDA theory that the pope/papacy is the Antichrist in a difficult spot.

What is your view of what is the covenant in Daniel 9:27?

Not at all you have been provided scripture to prove the first rule of prophetic interpretation which is that God's WORD needs to interpret itself *2 PETER 1:20.

Scripture has been provided to you to show that in bible prophecy 1 day = 1 year in interpreting prophetic timelines.

NUMBERS 14:34 After the number of the days in which ye searched the land, even forty days, each day for a year, shall ye bear your iniquities, even forty years, and ye shall know my breach of promise.

and again...

EZEKIEL 4:6 And when thou hast accomplished them, lie again on thy right side, and thou shalt bear the iniquity of the house of Judah forty days: I have appointed thee each day for a year.

You have also been shown that using the bible to interpret the bible in DANIEL and REVELATION God's WORD very clearly shows who the Antichrist is and fulfills the coming of the Messiah to the very day and year of his Baptism and death *DANIEL 9:24-27.

All you have provided is your own interpretation over God's WORD which the bbile says we shoud not do.

Only God's WORD is true my brother and we should believe and follow it.

May God bless you as you seek him through his Word.
 
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Not at all you have been provided scripture to prove the first rule of prophetic interpretation which is that God's WORD needs to interpret itself *2 PETER 1:20.

Scripture has been provided to you to show that in bible prophecy 1 day = 1 year in interpreting prophetic timelines.

NUMBERS 14:34 After the number of the days in which ye searched the land, even forty days, each day for a year, shall ye bear your iniquities, even forty years, and ye shall know my breach of promise.

and again...

EZEKIEL 4:6 And when thou hast accomplished them, lie again on thy right side, and thou shalt bear the iniquity of the house of Judah forty days: I have appointed thee each day for a year.

You have also been shown that using the bible to interpret the bible in DANIEL and REVELATION God's WORD very clearly shows who the Antichrist is and fulfills the coming of the Messiah to the very day and year of his Baptism and death *DANIEL 9:24-27.

All you have provided is your own interpretation over God's WORD which the bbile says we shoud not do.

Only God's WORD is true my brother and we should believe and follow it.

May God bless you as you seek him through his Word.
What is your view of what is the covenant in Daniel 9:27
 
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I believe in the partial preterist view of Revelation. It was written for the generation of the Apostles.
I agree. So simple, even a child would understand that.........

"THIS GENERATION" in Bible

Matthew 23:36
“Amen I say to ye, all these things shall be arriving<2240> upon this generation.

Luke 19:43
That shall be arriving<2240> days upon Thee when Thy enemies will build an embankment around Thee, encompass Thee and press Thee in on every side,
Luke 13:
34 - “O Jerusalem, Jerusalem, the one who kills the prophets and stones those who are sent to her! How often I wanted to gather your children together, as a hen gathers her brood under her wings, but you were not willing!
35 Behold! the House of ye is being left desolate/a wilderness<2048>,

Revelation 18:8
Therefore Her plagues shall be arriving<2240> in one day—death and mourning and famine.
And she will be utterly burned with fire, for strong is the Lord God who judges[fn] her.

The Destruction of Jerusalem - George Peter Holford, 1805AD
The Destruction of Jerusalem

The day on which Titus encompassed Jerusalem, was the feast of the Passover................



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What is your view of what is the covenant in Daniel 9:27

Hello brother Dougg, the NEW COVENANT Gospel foretold by JEREMIAH 31:31-34. The many being the JEWS and at the end of the week to the GENTILES.
 
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Hello brother Dougg, the NEW COVENANT Gospel foretold by JEREMIAH 31:31-34. The many being the JEWS and at the end of the week to the GENTILES.
for 7 years? The 70 weeks were completed back in the first century?

Therefore, the Pope is not the one who confirms the covenant is he?
 
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for 7 years?

Indeed 3 1/2 years the Messiah was to be cut off 27 AD. Then after his resurrection and through his Spirit (Pentecost) and through his disciples to the JEWS till the end of the week (another 3 1/2 years) to the stoning of Steven (34 AD end of the 70th week - DANIEL 9:24-27) at which time the NEW COVENANT Gospel went to the Gentiles through the conversion of Saul or Paul the Apostle.
 
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Indeed 3 1/2 years the Messiah was to be cut off 27 AD. The after his resurrection and through his Spirit (Pentecost) and through his disciples to the JEWS till the end of the week to the stoning of Steven (34 AD end of the 70th week) at which time the NEW COVENANT Gospel went to the Gentiles through the conversion of Paul

Are you aware of Deuteronomy 31:9-13 the confirming of the Mt. Sinai covenant for 7 years was a requirement of all future leaders of Israel, by Moses ?

I talked to Jews about - has this requirement been done in recent years? And they told me no - because part of the requirement Moses made is that it has to be done from the place of God's choosing - which the Jews take to be the temple mount. Which is an impossibility because of the muslim situation.

The person who will make the big speech from the temple mount to confirm the Mt. Sinai covenant for the 7years will be the Antichrist, illegitimate King of Israel.

Which that 7 years (of Daniel 9:27) is the 7 years (not 7 days) following Gog/Magog in Ezekiel 39. It is a 100% concrete going to happen that way - because in Ezekiel 39:17-20 at the end of the 7 years is the Armageddon feast and Jesus Himself speaking in Ezekiel 39:21-29.

The 7 years of Daniel 9:27 is the seven years which Revelation 6-19 is about.
 
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Are you aware of Deuteronomy 31:9-13 the confirming of the Mt. Sinai covenant for 7 years was a requirement of all future leaders of Israel, by Moses ?

I talked to Jews about - has this requirement been done in recent years? And they told me no - because part of the requirement Moses made is that it has to be done from the place of God's choosing - which the Jews take to be the temple mount. Which is an impossibility because of the muslim situation.

The person who will make the big speech from the temple mount to confirm the Mt. Sinai covenant for the 7years will be the Antichrist, illegitimate King of Israel.

Which that 7 years (of Daniel 9:27) is the 7 years (not 7 days) following Gog/Magog in Ezekiel 39. It is a 100% concrete going to happen that way - because in Ezekiel 39:17-20 at the end of the 7 years is the Armageddon feast and Jesus Himself speaking in Ezekiel 39:21-29.

The 7 years of Daniel 9:27 is the seven years which Revelation 6-19 is about.

Brother, the trouble that you have with that interpretation is that DANIEL 9:24-27 it is not talking about the little horn or Antichrist it is the timeline to the Messiah and him confirming the covenant with the many for 1 week.

The timeline starts at the rebuilding of Jerusalem which EZRA 7:1-27 brings to 457 BC to Messiah (annointing of the Holy Spirit) to 69 weeks (483 years) = 27 AD which was the Baptism of JESUS and the start of his ministry *LUKE 3:1-4; 21-22.

The fulfillment of this time prophecy was proclaimed by JESUS after his baptism and temptation in the wilderness in...

MARK 1:14-15 [14], Now after that John was put in prison, Jesus came into Galilee, preaching the gospel of the kingdom of God, [15], And saying, The time is fulfilled, [What time? DANIEL 9:25 the coming of the Messiah] and the kingdom of God is at hand: repent you, and believe the gospel.

This was a fulfillment of the scriptures to the coming of the Messiah in Daniel 9:25

Can you see how all the timelines meet and can be shown through the scriptures?
 
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Can you see how all the timelines meet and can be shown through the scriptures?
All of the timelines meet at Jesus's return.

The 7 years
The 70 weeks
The 2300 days
The time, times, half times
The little horn's demise
The prince who shall come demise
The king of fierce countenance demise
The willful king's demise
The Kingdom of God
The final redemption (Judaism's concept to mean the return of all Jews to the land of Israel)
The destruction of Satan's Babylon the Great kingdom
 
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All of the timelines meet at Jesus's return.

The 7 years
The 70 weeks
The 2300 days
The time, times, half times
The little horn's demise
The prince who shall come demise
The king of fierce countenance demise
The willful king's demise
The Kingdom of God
The final redemption (Judaism's concept to mean the return of all Jews to the land of Israel)
The destruction of Satan's Babylon the Great kingdom

Not all brother Dougg some timelines are for specific events outlined in each of the scriptures in both DANIEL and REVELATION.
 
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WHAT IS THE MARK OF THE BEAST AND WHEN DO PEOPLE RECEIVE IT?

SUMMARY SO FAR AND PUTTING IT TOGETHER

We have looked at and ideitified who the HARLOT WOMAN sitting on the scarlet colored BEAST is and let the scriptures define these symbols which the bible alone says that the MYSTERY HARLOT NAMED BABYLON represents the UNFAITHFUL MOTHER CHURCH of all Churches which also has UNFAITHFUL DAUGHTER CHURCHES * REVELATION 14:8; 17:1-5; 18:1-10. We have also seen through God’s WORD that it is NOT the people in these CHURCHES that God are the problem but what they teach the people which leads them away from God’s Word and that God has his people in ALL of these Churches and is calling them out to worship him in Spirit and in TRUTH according to the Word of God *REVELATION 18:1:4. We also saw that a BEAST in bible prophecy represents a KINGDOM while a HORN on a BEAST represents a KING that may come out of that KINGDOM *DANIEL 7:23-25

We also looked the HEBREW and GREEK meanings of MARK; SEAL and SIGN and compared these word meanings with the scriptures found in REVELATION 13:6; REVELATION 7:4-10; DEUTERONOMY 6:8; EZEKIEL 9:1-11; EXEKIEL 20:11-12; All of which liked the SERVITUDE of OBEDIENCE to God’s 10 Commandments to God’s SEAL; SIGN and MARK (which all have a similar meaning) or SERVITUDE to DISOBEDIENCE to God’s Commandments. *REVELATION 14:8-12. As the MARK is a symbol of SERVITUDE to God’s WORD and OBEDIENCE or SERVITUDE to the BEAST and DISOBEDIENCE we saw that RECEIVING the BEASTS MARK of DISOBEDIENCE in the HAND or the FOREHEAD means; *HAND = To act out or to do action (Ecclesiastes 9:10; Acts 4:28 etc) *FOREHAND = To believe or think (EZEKIEL 3:8-9; JEREMIAH 3:3 see also word meanings).

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CONCLUSION: The MARK OF THE BEAST is a SYMBOL OF SERVITUDE to the BEAST of REVELATION 13 and REVELATION 14; REVELATION 17 and REVELATION 18 which is influenced by the MOTHER OF ALL UNFAITHFUL CHURCHES names BABYLON THE MAOTHER OF HARLOTS *REVELATION 17:1-5.

This MARK is received in the HAND which means to act out and do what the BEAST commands in WORSHIPPING the BEASTS image (you do not have to believe the BEAST), while to receive the MARK in the FOREHEAD means to BELIEVE and do what the BEAST commands *REVELATION 13:15-16.

Those who are SEALED by GOD serve him through OBEDIENCE and SERVITUDE to God’s WORD *REVELATION 12:17; REVELATION 14:12; REVELATION 22:14. They do not bow down to the BEASTS FALSE IMAGE of WORSHIP and before the final judgments of God are poured out GOD calls all his true people to leave these CHURCHES to whorship and follow him in Spirit and in Truth.

The MARK OF THE BEAST AND THE SEAL OF GOD is received over SERVITUDE doing what the BEAST asks resulting in DISOBEDIENCE to God’s WORD or BELIEVING and FOLLOWING what God asks us through his WORD and disobeying what the BEAST asks us. The issue will be over WORSHIP. Who do we worship, God by believing and following his WORD or the BEAST by following the teaching and traditions of men that lead us away from God to break his Commandments *REVELATION 13:8; 13:12; 13:15; 14:7; 14:11; MATTHEW 15:3-9

The issue of worship is over God’s 4th Commandment of the 10 commandments that give us a knowledge of GOOD and EVIL; SIN AND RIGHTOUESNESS *ROMANS 3:20; ROMANS 7:7; JAMES 2:10-11; 1 JOHN 3:4; PSALMS 119:172

This results in a people of GOD who keep ALL THE COMMANDMENTS of God by faith in God’s WORD. REVELATION 22:9; REVELATION 12:17; REVELATION 14:12; REVELATION 22:14. The issue is over OBEDIENCE and DISOBEDIENCE.

No one has received the MARK OF THE BEAST until it become ENFORCED UNDER CIVIL LAW *REVELATION 13:16-17. The issue will be over worship *REVELATION 13:8; 13:12; 13:15; 14:7; 14:11; MATTHEW 15:3-9. Do we BELIEVE and FOLLOW God’s WORD and keep ALL THE COMMANDMETNS of GOD *REVELATION 22:9; REVELATION 12:17; REVELATION 14:12; REVELATION 22:14 or do we BELIEVE and FOLLOW the MOTHER OF HARLOTS *The MOTHER of all UNFAITHFUL CHURCHES, and RECEIVE the MARK of the BEAST? Which will you choose?

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SIN is the breaking of God's Commandments (James 2:9-11; Romans 7:7; 1 John 3:4) Those who CONTINUE in UNREPENTANT SIN will NOT enter into the KINGDOM of HEAVEN.

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God's 4th commandment is one of the ten (Exodus 20:8-11) If we knowingly break it when God asks us not to we stand guilty before God of committing sin (James 2:8-12). If we do not seek him in repentance and forgiveness we are in danger of the Judgement (Hebrews 10:26-27)

Sunday worship is a tradition and teaching of man that has led many to UNKNOWINGLY break the commandments of God. Jesus says that if we follow the traditions of man that break the commandments of God we are not following God (Matthew 15:3-9)

There is not one scripture in all of God's Word that says that God's 4th Commandment is now ABOLISHED and we are now commanded to KEEP Sunday as a Holy day. Who should we follow the teachings and traditions of men or the Word of God? Who should we believe the Words of men or the Word of God?

In times of ignorance God winks at but now, <when a KNOWLEDGE of the truth has come> calls all men everywhere to REPENT (FOLLOW) (Acts 17:30-31).


God bless.
 
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The Mark Of The Beast In Daniel 8 - 12

Dan 7:25 And he [the little horn] shall speak great words against the most High, and shall wear out the saints of the most High, and think to change times and laws: and they shall be given into his hand until a time and times and the dividing of time.

Daniel 7 repeats the empires theme of Daniel 2 and enlarges on the information on the divided Roman Empire by providing more details According to Daniel 7, the little horn power arises after the fall and division of the Roman Empire as represented by the 10 horns, which are introduced in Daniel 2 as the 10 toes of the statue.

The book of Daniel is unsealed in the revelation to John, and carries us forward to the last scenes of this earth’s history. {18MR 15.3} The book of Daniel is understood or unsealed when the book of Revelation is applied to it. Note that there are two specific points that the little horn thinks he can change, the times and laws of the most High.

THE TIMES OF THE MOST HIGH

Acts 1:7 (KJV) And he said unto them, It is not for you to know the times or the seasons, which the Father hath put in his own power.

The times that Jesus refers to here are the prophetic times that have the date of their fulfilment set by the Father. This, as we shall see, is the way "times" should be understood in Dan. 7:25. We will now apply the book of Revelation to Dan. 7:25 to unseal it.

REVELATION 12
Rev 12:17 And the dragon was wroth with the woman, and went to make war with the remnant of her seed [Dan. 11:44], which keep the commandments of God, and have the testimony of Jesus Christ.

In Revelation 12 there are also two specific points that distinguish the true end time church, they keep the commandments of God, and have the testimony of Jesus Christ, which incurs the wrath of Satan. These are the exact same two points mentioned in Daniel 7. The law in Daniel 7:25 equates with the commandments of God in Revelation 12:17. The times in Daniel 7:25 equates with the testimony of Jesus Christ in Revelation 12:17, which is further defined in Revelation 19:

Rev 19:10 And I fell at his feet to worship him. And he said unto me, See thou do it not: I am thy fellowservant, and of thy brethren that have the testimony of Jesus: worship God: for the testimony of Jesus is the spirit of prophecy.

REVELATION 14

So the times in Daniel 7:25 equates with the spirit of prophecy, which is to say prophetic times. Laws in Daniel 7:25 equates with the commandments of God in Revelation 12:17. These same two points are even further defined in Revelation 14:

Rev 14:6 And I saw another angel fly in the midst of heaven, having the everlasting gospel to preach unto them that dwell on the earth, and to every nation, and kindred, and tongue, and people,
Rev 14:7 Saying with a loud voice, Fear God, and give glory to him; for the hour of his judgment is come: and worship him that made heaven, and earth, and the sea (See Exo. 20:11), and the fountains of waters.

We now can see that "times and laws" in Daniel 7:25 explicitly refers to the prophetic time of judgment, and the Sabbath, the fourth commandment (Exo. 20:11), and these are proclaimed as the everlasting gospel. These two points are also found paired together here:

Lev 19:30 Ye shall keep my sabbaths, and reverence my sanctuary: I am the LORD.
Lev 26:2 Ye shall keep my sabbaths, and reverence my sanctuary: I am the LORD.
Ezek 23:38 Moreover this they have done unto me: they have defiled my sanctuary in the same day, and have profaned my sabbaths.

DANIEL 8

Daniel 8 is a vision that repeats and enlarges on the vision of Daniel 7, where we now know the little horn thinks to change the prophetic time of judgment (times) and the seventh day Sabbath (laws), so we should expect to find these two points in Daniel 8 too. The first is easy to find:

Dan 8:14 And he said unto me, Unto two thousand and three hundred days; then shall the sanctuary be cleansed.

The Investigative Judgment which began at the conclusion of the 2300 days (1844) is the prophetic time of Daniel 7:25 that the little horn denies and thinks to change in an effort to obscure it. The sanctuary and the day of atonement illustrate the present truth ministry of Christ our high priest in the process of dealing with the sins of His people. How has this been obscured and changed?

To begin with, the little horn in Daniel is said in the Catholic Douay Rheims Bible to be Antiochus IV Epiphanes, and the 2300 days are said to be the 6 years and about 4 months of persecution that ended with his death. This interpretation rejects the day for a year principle which establishes the associated 70 week prophecy in Daniel chapter 9 as 490 years, which the note in the Douay Rheims accepts. But there is another way the work of atonement by Christ our high priest in the heavenly sanctuary is obscured.

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Pope Tells Catholics Not To Seek Forgiveness Directly From God!

28. ... It is good to renew and reaffirm this faith at a moment when it might be weakening, losing something of its completeness or entering into an area of shadow and silence, threatened as it is by the negative elements of the above-mentioned crisis. For the sacrament of confession is indeed being undermined, on the one hand by the obscuring of the mortal and religious conscience, the lessening of a sense of sin, the distortion of the concept of repentance and the lack of effort to live an authentically Christian life. And on the other hand, it is being undermined by the sometimes widespread idea that one can obtain forgiveness directly from God, even in a habitual way, without approaching the sacrament of reconciliation. A further negative influence is the routine of a sacramental practice sometimes lacking in fervor and real spontaneity, deriving perhaps from a mistaken and distorted idea of the effects of the sacrament.

Source: Pope John Paul II, Apostolic Exhortation RECONCILIATION AND PENANCE, dated December 2nd, 1984.

The Pope is saying that a Catholic must seek out a priest to confess their sins and ask forgiveness only through the priest, and that this "sacrament" of confession / penance is undermined by those who think they can approach God directly for forgiveness. This makes the Catholic priest essential in the process of salvation, since he stands in the place of God, as another mediator between man and God. This is not a novel teaching in the Catholic Church, is has a long history:

St. Leo the Great (440-461) writes: "God in His abundant mercy has provided two remedies for the sins of men; that they may gain eternal life by the grace of Baptism, and also by the remedy of Penance. Those who have violated the vows of their Baptism may obtain the remission of their sins by condemning themselves; the divine goodness has so decreed that [pg. 284] the pardon of God can only be obtained by sinners through the prayers of the priests. Jesus Christ Himself has conferred upon the rulers of the Church the power of imposing canonical penance upon sinners who confess their sins, and of allowing them to receive the Sacraments of Christ, after they have purified their souls by a salutary satisfaction. . . . " (Epis. cviii.). [Emphasis supplied]

Source: The Question Box, New Edition, by Rev. Bertrand L. Conway, Copyright 1929 by "The Missionary Society of St. Paul the Apostle, New York, published by The Paulist Press, 401 West 59th Street, New York, pages 283-284.

Note what scripture says about confessing our sins to God:

Heb 4:14 Seeing then that we have a great high priest, that is passed into the heavens, Jesus the Son of God, let us hold fast our profession.
Heb 4:15 For we have not an high priest which cannot be touched with the feeling of our infirmities; but was in all points tempted like as we are, yet without sin.
Heb 4:16 Let us therefore come boldly unto the throne of grace, that we may obtain mercy, and find grace to help in time of need.

1 Tim 2:5 For there is one God, and one mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus;

1 John 1:7 But if we walk in the light, as he is in the light, we have fellowship one with another, and the blood of Jesus Christ his Son cleanseth us from all sin.
1 John 1:8 If we say that we have no sin, we deceive ourselves, and the truth is not in us.
1 John 1:9 If we confess our sins, he is faithful and just to forgive us our sins, and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness.
1 John 1:10 If we say that we have not sinned, we make him a liar, and his word is not in us.
1 John 2:1 My little children, these things write I unto you, that ye sin not. And if any man sin, we have an advocate with the Father, Jesus Christ the righteous:

In Matt 9:2-6, Mark 2:5-12, and Luke 5:18-25 Christ publicly forgives a man's sins, and the scribes and Pharisees thinking Christ a mere man, accuse Him of blasphemy, because as they reasoned: Who can forgive sins, but God alone? Claiming to be able to forgive a man's sins is called blasphemy, it is something only God can do.

The Catholic teaching cited above is clearly in direct opposition to scripture.
This leaves the 4th commandment to be found in Daniel 8.

Dan 8:11 Yea, he magnified himself even to the prince of the host, and by him the daily sacrifice was taken away, and the place of his sanctuary was cast down.

Note that in verse 11 we again have two points, the daily and the sanctuary. As we have seen previously, the parallel to times in Daniel 7:25 is the cleansing of the sanctuary after 2300 days (years) in verse 14, the judgment on the day of atonement. So for the parallel to laws in Daniel 7:25, let's now examine the daily. The word translated daily [H8548 - tamiyd] can also have the meaning perpetual (Exo. 30:8, Lev. 6:20). The word sacrifice in the above verse is supplied by the translators, it is not in the original text and should be ignored.

Dan 8:11 Yea, he magnified himself even to the prince of the host, and by him the daily [perpetual] sacrifice was taken away, and the place of his sanctuary was cast down.
Dan 8:12 And an host was given him against the daily [perpetual] sacrifice by reason of transgression, and it cast down the truth to the ground; and it practiced, and prospered.
Dan 8:13 Then I heard one saint speaking, and another saint said unto that certain saint which spake, How long shall be the vision concerning the daily [perpetual] sacrifice, and the transgression of desolation, to give both the sanctuary and the host to be trodden under foot?

We can see above that the daily / perpetual is taken away and replaced by what is called the transgression of desolation. What truth is cast to the ground by the transgression?

Psa 119:142 Thy righteousness is an everlasting righteousness, and thy law is the truth.
1 John 3:4 Whosoever committeth sin transgresseth also the law: for sin is the transgression of the law.

Clearly the transgression of desolation involves transgressing the law of God. If we use the definition of perpetual instead of daily, does that lead us to the Sabbath? Yes it does!

Exo 31:16 Wherefore the children of Israel shall keep the sabbath, to observe the sabbath throughout their generations, for a perpetual covenant.
Exo 31:17 It is a sign between me and the children of Israel for ever: for in six days the LORD made heaven and earth, and on the seventh day he rested, and was refreshed.

The word tamid in Daniel 8, 11, and 12 should be translated as perpetual, referring to the perpetual covenant of the Sabbath commandment. The transgression which replaces the perpetual covenant and results in desolation is also mentioned in Isaiah.

Isa 24:1 Behold, the LORD maketh the earth empty, and maketh it waste, and turneth it upside down, and scattereth abroad the inhabitants thereof.
Isa 24:2 And it shall be, as with the people, so with the priest; as with the servant, so with his master; as with the maid, so with her mistress; as with the buyer, so with the seller; as with the lender, so with the borrower; as with the taker of usury, so with the giver of usury to him.
Isa 24:3 The land shall be utterly emptied, and utterly spoiled: for the LORD hath spoken this word.
Isa 24:4 The earth mourneth and fadeth away, the world languisheth and fadeth away, the haughty people of the earth do languish.
Isa 24:5 The earth also is defiled under the inhabitants thereof; because they have transgressed the laws, changed the ordinance, broken the everlasting covenant.
Isa 24:6 Therefore hath the curse devoured the earth, and they that dwell therein are desolate: therefore the inhabitants of the earth are burned, and few men left.

So the mark of the beast, the little horn, is indeed found in Daniel 8, it is the transgression of desolation. It is also the abomination that maketh desolate in Daniel 11:31 and Daniel 12:11 and the abomination of desolation in Matthew 24:15 and Mark 13:14.

THE SEAL OF GOD

If we also now apply the refined definitions of "times and laws" of Dan 7:25 provided to us by Revelation 12:17, 14:7 and 19:10, and read them into Isaiah 8, notice the result:

Isa 8:16 Bind up the testimony (of Jesus, the spirit of prophecy), seal the law (7th day Sabbath) among my disciples.
Isa 8:20 To the law (7th day Sabbath) and to the testimony (2300 day prophecy / pre-advent judgment): if they speak not according to this word, it is because there is no light in them.

In conjunction with Exodus 31:16-17, this clearly confirms the 7th day Sabbath to be the sign or seal of God, the perpetual covenant of Daniel 8.

In the very time in which we live, the Lord has called His people and has given them a message to bear. He has called them to expose the wickedness of the man of sin who has made the Sunday law a distinctive power, who has thought to change times and laws, and to oppress the people of God who stand firmly to honor Him by keeping the only true Sabbath, the Sabbath of creation, as holy unto the Lord. He has called them to bear the sign of God, to exalt the Lord in keeping holy His law; for it is a transcript of His character. No part of the law of God and their covenant obligation to keep that law holy is to lose its binding claims upon all the world. Those who have had the light upon keeping the law of Jehovah are to stand firmly in the faith, and to make that light shine forth in clear, distinct rays. {18MR 33.1} (Biblelight)

Something to think about.
 
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the little horn power arises after the fall and division of the Roman Empire as represented by the 10 horns, which are introduced in Daniel 2 as the 10 toes of the statue.
Which means the little horn is not the pope/papacy because the ten kings are not in place yet. It is in the days of the ten kings that God will set up the everlasting kingdom here on earth to supercede all human kingdoms.

So the ten kings have to be alive at the time of Jesus's return.
 
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Clearly the transgression of desolation involves transgressing the law of God. If we use the definition of perpetual instead of daily, does that lead us to the Sabbath? Yes it does!
What he transgresses regarding God's law that Israel agreed to - is not to have any other god(s). Which the little horn claiming to be God is that transgression.

The daily sacrifice is every day. The little horn stops that, and claims to be God , by going into the temple, sitting, showing (his claim) that he is God.
 
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So the mark of the beast, the little horn, is indeed found in Daniel 8, it is the transgression of desolation. It is also the abomination that maketh desolate in Daniel 11:31 and Daniel 12:11 and the abomination of desolation in Matthew 24:15 and Mark 13:14.
No, it is not, because it is the Mark of his name. (see below)

Not the transgression of desolation. Which is an act, that causes the temple to be desolate.

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11 And the smoke of their torment ascendeth up for ever and ever: and they have no rest day nor night, who worship the beast and his image, and whosoever receiveth the mark of his name.

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To figure out what the mark is, first it is necessary to figure out his name. For example, if the person assumed to be Zeus in the flesh, and assumed that name, then the mark of Zeus would be a thunderbolt.

note: at this time, I do not know what his name is.
 
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Which means the little horn is not the pope/papacy because the ten kings are not in place yet. It is in the days of the ten kings that God will set up the everlasting kingdom here on earth to supercede all human kingdoms.

So the ten kings have to be alive at the time of Jesus's return.

Not really brother you are not correct here. These KINGS were from the 10 conqoured KINGDOMS from the of the ROMAN EMPIRE which make up the 10 HORNS from the 4th BEAST of DANIEL 7. Three have been plucked up (no more) the others are continuing as part of Europe all as God's WORD has said it would.

DANIEL 7:23-25
[23], Thus he said, The fourth beast shall be the fourth kingdom on earth, which shall be diverse from all kingdoms, and shall devour the whole earth, and shall tread it down, and break it in pieces.
[24], And the ten horns out of this kingdom are ten kings that shall arise: and another shall rise after them; and he shall be diverse from the first, and he shall subdue three kings.
[25], And he shall speak great words against the most High, and shall wear out the saints of the most High, and think to change times and laws: and they shall be given into his hand until a time and times and the dividing of time.

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Daniel states that the ten horns are ten kings. To be consistent in our interpretation of Scripture, the ten kings would each have a kingdom. Thus, the Roman empire would be divided into ten kingdoms with a king over each kingdom. Furthermore, according to Daniel 7, an eleventh horn will come out of these ten. That horn speaks great things and makes war against the saints. These are the same characteristics of the first beast mentioned in Revelation 13.

The fourth kingdom of Daniel 2 (legs of Iron) is the same fourth kingdom of Daniel 7 (Daniel 2:40; Daniel 7:7; 23). There is important parallels in DANIEL 2 on the fourth Kingdom as it show this kingdom was to eventually be divided into two as represented by having two legs. This represented the eastern (leg one - Daniel 2) and western (leg two - Daniel 2) sections of the Roman empire. Consistent with Daniel’s vision of the statue’s two legs in Daniel 2, near the end the Roman Empire was split into two sections – the east (leg one - Daniel 2) whose capital was Constantinople, and the West (leg two - Daniel 2) whose capital was Rome.

The western (leg one - Daniel 2) Roman empire ended in 476 AD when the Germanic mercenary Odoacer seized power it was divided into 10 divisions or kingdoms.

The eastern (leg two - Daniel 2) Roman empire ended on May 29, 1453, when Mohammed II and his Ottoman armies destroyed Constantinople. When the eastern empire was defeated, it was not divided, but taken over by the Ottoman Turks. The Ottoman Empire fell in the early 20th century.

So the 10 kingcoms from the Romans Empire from DANIEL 7:24 come from the western Roman Empire.

The ten horns represent the ten kingdoms into which the western Roman Empire was divided when it fell apart. These ten kingdoms, according to the historian Edward Gibbon and their names today, were:

1. Alemanni, = GERMANY
2. Franks, = FRANCE
3. Burgundians, = SWITZERLAND
4. Vandals, = NO MORE (Uprooted - Daniel 7:24)
5. Suevi, = PORTUGAL
6. Visigoths, = SPAIN
7. Saxons, = ENGLAND
8. Ostrogoths, = NO MORE (Uprooted - Daniel 7:24)
9. Lombards, = ITALY
10. Heruli, = NO MORE (Uprooted - Daniel 7:24)

The Roman empire did not fall with one event. Many factors contributed to the fall of the Roman empire over a long period of time. This is a direct fulfillment of DANIEL 2 and DANIEL 7:24 and documented in history.

“The historian Machiavel, without the slightest reference to this prophecy, gives the following list of the nations which occupied the territory of the Western Empire at the time of the fall of Romulus Augustulus [476 A. D], the last emperor of Rome: The Lombards, the Franks, the Burgundians, the Ostrogoths, the Visigoths, the Vandals, the Heruli, the Sueves, the Huns, and the Saxons: ten in all.” (H. Grattan Guinness, The Divine Program of the World’s History, p. 318)

Already in the fourth century, Jerome had spoken of the fragmentation of the Roman Empire in the following terms: “Moreover the fourth kingdom, which plainly pertains to the Romans, is the iron which breaks in pieces and subdues all things. But its feet and toes are partly of iron and partly of clay, which at this time [note that Jerome was living when this was happen
ing] is most plainly attested. For just as in its beginning nothing was stronger and more unyielding than the Roman Empire, so at the end of its affairs nothing is weaker.” (Jerome, Commentary on Daniel , comments on 2:40, column 504).

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So the 10 Kingdoms are a continuation of modern Europe today. One thing your not considering however is that three of the kingdoms were plucked up by the little Horn on its rise to power. Let's look at this in the next post.

to be continued...
 
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History is also unmistakable as to who uprooted the three exterminated kingdoms. It can be attributed to one power only and this power is the little horn of Daniel 7, which is synonymous with the beast from the sea in Revelation 13 and the power that enforces the mark of the beast, the Papal Church of Rome.

Identifying Features of the Little Horn (Dan 7)
Prior to the 1260 days.

DANIEL 7
1.
Arises out of the fourth beast/Rome, Vs 8, 24.
2. Arises after the 10 horns/10 divisions of western Rome, Vs 8, 24.
3. Arises among the 10 horns/10 divisions of western Rome, V 8.
4. As he arose he plucked up 3 horns by the roots/exterminated 3 kingdoms of western Rome, Vs 8, 24.
5. Began little but became more stout, greater or more arrogant than his fellows, Vs 8, 20.
6. Diverse, or different, from the others, V 24.
7. Eyes like the eyes of man, speak great words, which is blasphemy against the Most High, Vs 8, 25. The Bible defines blasphemy as; when being only a man you make yourself as God. (John 10:30-33) Also claiming to be able to forgive sins when only a man. (Mark 2:5-7)
8. Thinks to change times and laws, V 25.
9. Wears out, that is persecutes the saints, V25.
10. He would reign for a time, times, and the dividing/half a time, V 25.

The word time in the original language here means a year, thus it would be a time = 1 year, times = 2 years, half a time = 1/2 a year. Making 3 1/2 years in total. In Revelation 12:6 it is known as 1260 days and in Revelation 13:5 42 months, showing us that each year had 360 days in it. A day in Bible prophecy = a year. (In Ezekiel 4:6, Ezekiel was acting out a prophetic parable, and the Lord gave him each day for a year and in Numbers 14:34, the Lord prophesied that each day the spies searched the land, 40 days in total, they would spend a year wandering in the wilderness, 40 years in total). So we find a day = a year in prophecy, thus we have here this little horn reigning for 1260 years.

These are the 10 identifying marks of the little horn, commonly known as the Anti-Christ power. To be this power, all 10 marks must be fulfilled. There is only one power that fulfils every identifying mark, that is the Papacy/Roman Catholic Church. The people are not the antichrist but the system is the system of antichrist.

We will now go through and show how the Papacy/Catholic Church meets these requirements. The Papacy rose out of the fourth beast/Rome. It also rose after the 10 divisions of the western Roman empire in 476 A.D., as it rose to full supremacy in 538 A.D. The Papacy rose out of Rome itself, showing that it came up amongst the 10 divisions of the western Roman empire.

The 3 horns were the Heruli, Vandals and the Ostrogoths. All three held to the doctrine of Arianism, (this teaches that Jesus is not “God” but that is in fact a created being, he came forth from the Father at some time in eternity past). These were vehemently opposed to the Papacy and were obstructing them from rising to full supremacy.

Odoacer, king of the Heruli, took the throne of Italy in 476 A.D. Gibbon, Decline and Fall of the Roman Empire, Vol 4, chapter 36, pg 58. The Heruli were an oppressing power to the Papacy and thus needed to be removed. Zeno, emperor of the East, and a friend of the pope, was anxious to drive Odoacer out of Italy. Machiavelli, pg 6.

This he saw done by Theodoric who had taken the throne of the Ostrogoths, and was on friendly terms with him. Theodoric wrote a letter to Zeno asking permission to take his Goths to some more favourable region, which they might conquer and possess. Zeno gave permission to march against Odoacer and take possession of Italy. The war lasted 3 years until in 493 A.D. the Heruli were overthrown and Odoacer treacherously slain. At this time we think it appropriate to quote from Machiavelli’s History of Florence, pg 14; “Nearly all the wars which the northern barbarians carried on in Italy, it may be here remarked, were occasioned by the pontiffs; and the hordes with which the country was inundated, were generally called in by them.” So though the hands of the Roman pontiffs might not be visibly manifest in the movements upon the political board, they constituted the power working assiduously behind the scenes to secure their own purposes.

The Vandals were the second to be uprooted. In 533 A.D. Emperor Justinian, who ruled from Constantinople in the east, decreed that the Bishop of Rome was the Universal Bishop over the entire church (today the Pope remains the universal bishop over the Roman Catholic Church by reason of this decree). But the Catholics were suffering a violent persecution from the Arian Vandals of northern Africa. They were intolerant of the Catholics and termed them heretics. Thus unless they could be removed the Papacy could not rise to the power of Justinian’s decree. Justinian sent his ablest General Belisarius to north Africa and totally wiped the Vandals from the face of the earth in the year 534 A.D., thus uprooting the second horn.

This only left the Arian tribe of the Ostrogoths, who had the throne of Italy and were restraining the power of the Papacy. They too were defeated by Belisarius in the year 538 A.D., leaving not enough of them to have their heritage remain. Justinian’s decree could take effect now as the three horns of opposition had been removed (Heruli, Vandals, and the Ostrogoths). The Papacy now had full supremacy, 538 A.D.

More stout or greater than his fellows, arrogant. The Papacy began as a church in the city of Rome. A member of the sisterhood of Christian churches around the world, and the bishop or elder of the city of Rome, was no more important than the bishops in any other major city including Jerusalem, Antioch, or Alexandria. However, by 538 A.D. the Papacy was no longer just a little church, it was a controlling political force that controlled kings and queens of Europe. An example of the Pope’s power is seen in the experience of Pope Gregory VII in 1076, when he informed the subjects of Henry IV, emperor of Germany, that due to Henry’s disloyalty to the Papal See, they were under no obligation to obey him. Henry was the most powerful monarch in Europe at the time, but he nonetheless made a pilgrimage to Cannosa in the Alps, where the Pope was residing, and waited three painful days, barefoot in the snow, until Pope Gregory forgave him. It is of note that those who supported the Papacy were to be found in all nations, instead of owing allegiance only within one nation’s boundaries.

The Papacy was diverse or different from the other powers before it. It was not just a political nation but was in fact a church, which had gained temporal or political power.

Eyes like the eyes of a man, speak great words against the Most High. This shows that this organization was to be headed by a man and that this man would speak great words or blasphemies against the Most High. We have found blasphemy to be claiming the power to forgive sins. (Mark 2:5-7) and also a man making himself God. (John 10:30-33) We will now see how the Papacy fulfils this in the following quotes;

Making himself God.
The Pope is of so great dignity and so exalted that he is not a mere man, but as it were God, and the vicar of God...the Pope is as it were the vicar of God on earth...Chief king of kings, having plentitude of power.Prompta Bibliotheca Canonica Juridiea Moralis Theoloogica, by Lucii Ferraris.

All names which in the scripture are applied to Christ, by virtue of which it is established that He is over the church, all the same names are applied to the Pope.On the Authority of Councils, 1619 ed., book 2, Ch 17.

We hold upon this earth the place of God almighty.The Great Encyclical Letters of Leo XIII, pg 304.

But the supreme teacher in the church is the Roman Pontiff. Union of minds, therefore requires, together with a perfect accord in the one faith, complete submission and obedience of the will to the church and to the Roman Pontiff, as to God Himself.Ibid.

Claiming to forgive sins.
And God Himself is obliged to abide by the judgment of His priest and either not to pardon or pardon, according as they refuse to give absolution, provided the penitent is capable of it.Duties and Dignities of the Priest, by Ligouri, pg 27.

Were the Redeemer to descend into a church, and sit in a confessional to administer the sacrament of penance, and a priest to sit in a confessional, Jesus would say over each penitent, ‘ego te absolvo”, the priest would likewise say over each of his penitents, ‘ego te absolvo’, and the penitents of each would be equally absolved.Ibid., pg 34.

The priest does not only declare that the sinner is forgiven, but he really forgives him...so great is the power of the priest, that the judgments of heaven itself are subject to his decision.The Catholic Priest, by Michael Meuller, Kreuzer Bros., 1876.

Think to change times and laws. It is interesting to note that the Bible says that he thinks to do this, for the reality is that he cannot actually do it. But this is also true of the Papacy as we will see by the following quotes:

The pope has the power to change times, to abrogate laws, and to dispense with all things, even the precepts of Christ. He can pronounce sentences and judgments in contradiction to the rights of nations, to the law of God and man.Decretalia de translat. Ep Cop. Cap.

The Catholic Church for over one thousand years before the existence of a Protestant, by virtue of her divine mission, changed the day from Saturday to Sunday.The Catholic Mirror, Sept 23 1893.

You may read the Bible from Genesis to Revelation, and you will not find a single line authorizing the sanctification of Sunday. The Scriptures enforce the religious observance of Saturday, a day which we (Catholics) never sanctify.James Cardinal Gibbons, The Faith of Our Fathers, pg 111.

Question : What Bible authority is there for changing the Sabbath from the seventh to the first day of the week? Who gave the Pope the authority to change a command of God?
Answer : If the Bible is the only guide for the Christian, then the Seventh-day Adventist is right in observing the Saturday with the Jew. But Catholics learn what to believe and do from the divine, infallible authority established by Jesus Christ, the Catholic Church...Is it not strange that those who make the Bible their only teacher should inconsistently follow in this matter the tradition of the Church?Question Box, by Conway, 1903 edition, pgs 254-255.

Question : Which is the Sabbath day?
Answer : Saturday is the Sabbath day.
Question : Why do we observe Sunday instead of Saturday?
Answer : We observe Sunday instead of Saturday because the Catholic Church, in the Council of Laodicea (336 A.D.), transferred the solemnity from Saturday to Sunday.Peter Geiermann, The Converts Catechism of Catholic Doctrine, Second Edition, 1910, pg 50.

It is interesting to note that the Catholic Church has removed the second Commandment from her doctrinal books and catechisms, because it condemns the worship of images. Thus they split the tenth Commandment into two so as to still have Ten Commandments. See Catholic change to the Ten Commandments and who changed the Sabbath to Sunday or the Sabbath to Sunday change.

Wear out the saints of the Most High. The Papacy is well known for its persecution of so called heretics. Pope Gregory XIII executed a plot in which he killed 70,000 in one day on St. Bartholomew's Day massacre in France, 24th August 1572. In July 1209, 60,000 Albigenses slaughtered at Beziers. On the 24th April 1655, 18,000 Waldenses were killed. 1,000,000 Waldenses perished in France. 900,000 orthodox Christians were slain in less than thirty years after the institution of the order of the Jesuits. The inquisition destroyed, by various tortures, 150,000 within thirty years.

...it is estimated by careful historians that more than fifty millions of the human family have been slaughtered for the crime of heresy by Popish persecutors, an average of more than forty thousand religious murders for every year of the existence of Popery.History of Romanism, Dr J Dowling pgs 541-542.

The Catholic Church...loudly proclaims that she has a horror of blood. Nevertheless when confronted by heresy she...has recourse to force, to corporal punishment, to torture. She creates tribunals like those of the inquisition...encourages a crusade or a religious war...especially did she act thus in the sixteenth century with regards to Protestants...she lit in Italy the Low Countries and above all in Spain the funeral fires of the inquisition. In France...and in England...she tortured the heretics whilst both in France and Germany...she encouraged and aided, the religious wars. No one will deny that we have a great scandal to our contemporaries...Indeed even among our friends and our brothers we find those who dare not look this problem in the face. They ask permission from the church to ignore or even deny all those acts and institutions of the past which have made orthodoxy compulsory.The Catholic Church, the Renaissance and Protestantism, Professor Alfred Baudrillart, London, 1908 pgs 182-184. (He was rector of the Catholic Institute of Paris and later was made a Cardinal).

Even so, the Papacy still justifies her position:
...that the church of Rome possesses the supremacy of both powers, the spiritual and the temporal, that she has the right to employ both swords in the extirpation of heresy; that in the exercise of this right she has never exceeded by a hairs breadth her just prerogatives and that what she has done aforetime she may do in time to come as often as occasion shall require and opportunity may serve.Encyclical Quanta Cura (Syllabus of Errors) 1864, Pope Pius IX.

As we have seen, the Papacy rose to full supremacy in 538 A.D., identifying mark number 4, and it came to its end exactly 1260 years later in 1798 A.D. when Napoleon’s General Berthier, under orders from the French ruler, marched into Rome and took Pope Pius VI prisoner thus taking from the Vatican it’s political or temporal power.

The Papacy was extinct: not a vestige of its existence remained and among all the Roman Catholic powers not a finger was stirred in its defence. The eternal city no longer had prince or pontiff; its bishop was a dying captive in foreign lands, and the decree was already announced that no successor would be allowed in his place.The Fall of the Western Empire, George Trevor, pg 440.

The Papacy had received its deadly wound, but this wound was to be healed. (Revelation 13:3)

Daniel 7:27 “And the kingdom and dominion, and the greatness of the kingdom under the whole heaven, shall be given to the people of the saints of the most High, whose kingdom is an everlasting kingdom, and all dominions shall serve and obey him.

In verse 14 we see the kingdom being given to Christ, but here it is given to the saints of the Most High. How can this be?

In Romans 8:14-17, it tells us that if we are being led by the Spirit of God we are the sons of God and adopted into the family of God. Thus we have become heirs of God and joint-heirs with Christ. Jesus has received a kingdom which is an everlasting one, thus we being joint-heirs with Him also receive this kingdom. What a promise!

The Lord will reign supreme in the end.

So brother as you can see the the little Horn of DANIEL 7 fit the PAPACY or Roman Catholic Church perfectly.

God bless
 
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