"I am a spirit, I have a soul and I live in a body." - Just one question: What's the difference between you soul and your spirit?
Sorry for delayed response, been busy.
From the scriptural use as well as the definitions of those words, I feel like the best definition is the
spirit is the 'animating life force' for the body. It's what allows the flesh/body we live in to move/live. The word
soul, comes from the Greek word
PSUCHE. It's the 'derivative source word' from which we get
psyche (ward),
psychology,
psychologist in English from. IOW the
soul is the 'brain functioning' as
mind, will, emotion. The best definition of
soul is the 'motivating life force' of the body. IOW I
will', 'I won't, 'I can', I can't'.....because of a'stinking thinking
mind' or because of past
emotional pain ect. Those are all things we work out the salvation AFTER our spirit is saved or born again. And that happens when we first come to Christ Jesus as savior. Only your spirit got saved on day one.
"And if you quote better bibles your beloved eternity is missing also." Are you referring to the "had been thrown" thing? The word eternity to me is anything but beloved.
I have multiple bibles which don't have the word eternity in them. Other than the two times which use the only Greek word which really means timelessness both forward and backward. And that word is
Adios.
"You want Him to be a gas or propane torch holder like some cosmic Hitler torturing to death in annihilation. I see Him as glorious and purgative in his work to kill us all." - Huh?
You are an annihilationist right? So you therefore believe that most of His beloved creation which He never "
called, chose, drew, predestined, foreordained that they might believe" in order that they might be saved in this age...all get to be incinerated right?
"But I do believe I 'one up' your kinder annihilationist POV with a better plan." - So I take it your a universalist? Everyone gets saved? How do you explain verses like John 3:16, and every other verse that talks about how the wages of sin is death? Why did Jesus need to die on the cross in the first place?
We've already explained this, and this is the third time. Where do you put '
perishables' after grocery shopping? In the refrigerator. Why? So they don't rot. Spirit and soul don't decay or rot, only flesh does. Immortality is for the flesh not the soul, spirit. John 3:16 isn't saving you from hell, it's saving you from PERISHING.
Nominal Christianity thinks Jesus came to save everyone from eternal hell.
That's not even the first sermons message from Peter on the day of Pentecost to the first church.
ACT 2:40 And he testified with many other words and exhorted them, saying, "Save yourselves FROM this crooked generation."
Did Jesus' spirit die on the cross? Did His soul die on the cross for you, or did his body die on the cross? I'm going with his sinful flesh (natured) body died. BTW Jesus never yielded to his sinful flesh nature, therefore he never sinned.
ROM 8:3 For God has done what the law, weake ned by the flesh, could not do: sending his own Son in the likeness of sinful flesh and for sin, he condemned sin in the flesh,
4 in order that the just requirement of the law might be fulfilled in us, who walk not according to the flesh but according to the Spirit.
Brilliant carnal minded theologians should have never capitalized
Spirit in this verse above. It is talking about the
holy spirit of Christ in you, and that spirit is not the Holy Spirit of God. It is the same spirit Jesus yielded to the Father on the cross. And that is the same spirit which led Jesus unto a perfected life qualifying him to die sinless in our place. It is also the spirit which vivified the body of Christ after it went to
preach to the spirits of those who died in the days of Noah. Hmmm, spirits that did not die when the bodies they indwelt did? Hello!
1CO 6:17 But he who is united to the Lord becomes one spirit with him.
And it is "
Christ in you the hope of glory" or
immortality on this side of glory.
Where is the verse that explicitly states that he will save everyone? WHat about the verse that talks about the people whose names are not written in the Book of Life get cast into the lake of fire? There are so many MASSIVE holes in Universalism that it just doesn't make a lick of sense.
Show me where the book of the life of the lamb' is about you going to heaven? And not really about you apprehending the life of the lamb for your body here and now as "
you work out the salvation of your soul with fear and trembling."
And Annihilationism isn't "kind" or "nice". It is simply what the bible clearly states.
For the body, I agree ashes to ashes dust to dust. Yep.
"Paul knew the difference between immortality and eternal life I wonder if you do." - What's the difference? The first resurrection is talking about Jesus' resurrection, and the second is talking about the resurrection of the dead is talking about Revelation 20:5. But I don't see any important distinction between immortality and eternal life. They are essentially interchangeable.
Don't be offended, but there is a saying; The dumber people are the quicker they are to go to the Revelation to prove their point. John was "
in spirit" on the day of the Revelation. And if you aren't in spirit in your understanding of what he saw, you will not arrive at the truths that would "
soon take place" because "
the time is near" Rev1:1,3