Isn't it interesting how there are five gifts apostles, prophets evangelist pastors and teachers, and yet the one Pastor gift is the one that dominates. This is not scriptural and came out of the false clergy laity divide in history. There is much that could be shown from history to show where this unbiblical modern role of the pastor today came from.
we also read an interesting verse in 1 Cor
"28 And God hath set some in the church, first apostles, secondarily prophets, thirdly teachers,..."9 1 Cor 123:28 KJV)
Isn't it interesting how no pastors are mentioned here. Yet these are set in the church. And yet many would have us believe that the pastor gift is to be over all and the main ministry and none else is free to minister as God commands in scripture (1 Cor 14_26-38, 1 Peter 4:10,11 etc etc etc etc etc)
Proverbs 14:16 A wise
man feareth, and departeth from evil: but the fool rageth, and is confident.
Proverbs 12:15 The way of a fool
is right in his own eyes: but he that hearkeneth unto counsel
is wise.
Proverbs 3:5 Trust in the LORD with all thine heart; and lean not unto thine own understanding.
1 Thessalonians 5:12-13 And we beseech you, brethren, to know them which labour among you, and are over you in the Lord, and admonish you; And to esteem them very highly in love for their work's sake.
And be at peace among yourselves.
Matthew 18:15-20 Moreover if thy brother shall trespass against thee, go and tell him his fault between thee and him alone: if he shall hear thee, thou hast gained thy brother. But if he will not hear
thee, then take with thee one or two more, that in the mouth of two or three witnesses every word may be established. And if he shall neglect to hear them, tell
it unto the church: but if he neglect to hear the church, let him be unto thee as an heathen man and a publican. Verily I say unto you, Whatsoever ye shall bind on earth shall be bound in heaven: and whatsoever ye shall loose on earth shall be loosed in heaven. Again I say unto you, That if two of you shall agree on earth as touching any thing that they shall ask, it shall be done for them of my Father which is in heaven. For where two or three are gathered together in my name, there am I in the midst of them.
1 Timothy 5:19 Against an elder receive not an accusation, but before two or three witnesses.
Hebrews 13:17 Obey them that have the rule over you, and submit yourselves: for they watch for your souls, as they that must give account, that they may do it with joy, and not with grief: for that is unprofitable for you.
You have accused elders of the church openly without going to them. There is no pastors present to defend themselves. You gossip about their actions, as if you, yourself dictates if the Holy Spirit has called them to this office. You are correct in your own eyes in spite of scripture saying that their are people of this office. I'm not one who is worshipping pastors as kings. They are elders of the church who have had training in the word and are apt to teach and shepherd the flock. They are and will be accountable for their own actions to the Lord. You have no forgiveness in the matter. If you have problems with a pastor, go to them directly as the Bible instructs.
To confront your pastor of sin is a very serious charge and should be taken extremely seriously. John Piper once provided the following counsel to his pastoral staff about unity:
"The New Testament warns against gossiping. The Greek word translated “gossip” means whisper or whisperer. In other words, the focus is not on the falsehood of the word but on the fact that it needs to be surreptitious. It is not open and candid and forthright. It has darkness about it. It does not operate in the light of love. It is not aiming at healing. It strokes the ego’s desire to be seen as right without playing by the rules of love."
John MacArthur "There are always people eager to falsely accuse a man of God. They may do so because they resent his calling, reject his teaching, resist biblical authority, resent virtue, or are jealous of the Lord’s blessing on his life. Ultimately, however, they demonstrate by making such accusations that they have become messengers of Satan. Such false accusations are one of his most dangerous weapons. Joseph, Moses, David, Jeremiah, Nehemiah, and our Lord Jesus Christ all suffered from false accusations."
My pastor teaches the Word of God. Supports our missionaries. (Missionaries are frequently in our church). We have a large outreach program. Bible studies from other members of our church. Youth program from other members of our church.
As I stated before, there are some, NOT ALL, who are wise in their own eyes and spread their own message. Those few pastors may need to be addressed, but in a biblical way. Not on here like some hooligan gossiping behind people's backs.
These accusations have not been in the spirit of love, fellowship, brotherhood, or forgiveness.
Remove the mote from your own eye and rebuke the dark spirit that has accompanied your speech.
Love in Christ.