Babylon, The Harlot and the Seven Headed Beast Explained

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oh, even worse....:wave: (just joking). my mistake though on your being a Catholic.
That is OK, I know some very nice, Christian Catolics. Their Hierarchy is off, but that is just from the top down, they are different, but remember, we have a lot of fakes amongst us in our churches who will never make heaven also.....HE HE.:amen:

What happens to nephillim and rephillim when they die? What seven beasts? There is the first beast in Revelation 13. And a second beast in Revelation 13. And in Daniel 7, there are 4 beasts.

Those nephillim I do recognize, but overall the bible is not really that clear on them. I assume God destroyed them and they are awaiting their judgment.

The text says 7 kings. Not 7 beasts.
This is where we must learn to decipher Gods word my brother in Christ. God is SUPER INTELLIGENT (No kidding) we aren't. All of these Beasts were Conquerors of Israel, but God wanted us to know this last Beast would be a mere MAN and not so much a Kingdom per se like all the others. So God reduced these Seven down to Kings who have fallen, and of Course God is always correct. There is at least one King in charge of every Beast Kingdom when it Falls/loses power so to speak.

So God, not wanting to confuse us, made sure he sent the message this last Beast would be an Evil Man, whereas Rome was a huge Kingdom Beast ruled by many men over a period of time, but this Last Beast Power will be One Man, in power for a SHORT TIME.

God did not want to confuse us and have us looking to a Country so to speak, but he wanted us to understand that this MAN would be so powerful, that the 10 Kings would GIVE THEIR POWERS unto him, and that HE HIMSELF would be deemed the LAST BEAST...See Rev. 20:10

King James Bible
And the devil that deceived them was cast into the lake of fire and brimstone, where the beast and the false prophet are, and shall be tormented day and night for ever and ever.

Holman Christian Standard Bible
The Devil who deceived them was thrown into the lake of fire and sulfur where the beast and the false prophet are, and they will be tormented day and night forever and ever.

The Beast is the MAN....The Devil is the Devil. Israel's LAST CONQUEROR will be a Man, and he is the Beast. The 8th King is Satan, who is over the Seventh King the Beast/Man of Sin/Little Horn etc.

This brother is why the last BEAST is a Man, because he has so much POWER, more than any man before no doubt. Much of that POWER might be/probably will be Mystical.

The person is the Antichrist at the beginning of the seven years. But he is no longer the Antichrist when he becomes the beast. That is to say, the person is no longer the perceived King of Israel (the messiah) to the Jews.

I used to believe along these lines also , but where God takes me I gladly follow brother. This Man will never be the King of Israel or considered their Messiah. Israel turns to Jesus Christ right before the Abomination of Desolation, the AGREEMENT in the first part of the 7 years only means an Agreement, the word Covenant is an Agreement, it dos not have to be a Religious Agreement. I take it as a Security Agreement.

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All of these Beasts were Conquerors of Israel, but God wanted us to know this last Beast would be mere MAN and not so much a Kingdom per se like all the others. So God reduced these Seven down to Kings who have fallen, and of Course God is always correct. There is at least one King in charge of every Beast Kingdom when it Falls/loses power so to speak.
What seven beasts, I keep asking you? Specifically stated in the bible? What seven beast kingdoms are specifically stated in the bible?

Revelations 17:
9 And here is the mind which hath wisdom. The seven heads are seven mountains, on which the woman sitteth.

10 And there are seven kings: five are fallen, and one is, and the other is not yet come; and when he cometh, he must continue a short space.

11 And the beast that was, and is not, even he is the eighth, and is of the seven, and goeth into perdition.


It doesn't say seven kingdoms, nor seven beasts. To fit what is said in the bible. there are 7 sequential kings associated with the place the woman sits, which is Rome, known as being the city of the seven hills, mountains.

The person becomes the Antichrist and later the beast is from the people who destroyed the city which was the Romans and their fourth empire. Which the little horn person and the ten kings in Daniel 7 come from the fourth empire - in the text.

I used t believe along these lines of , but where God takes me I gladly follow brother. This Man will never be the King of Israel or considered their Messiah. Israel turns to Jesus Christ right before the Abomination of Desolation, the AGREEMENT in the first part of the 7 years only means an Agreement, the word Covenant is an Agreement, it dos not have to be a Religious Agreement. I take it as a Security Agreement.
To become the Antichrist the person must be anointed the King of Israel.

The term Christ, english version of Greek christos, is derived from the hebrew word for anointed. "The" christ, the messiah, is the special king of Israel, the disciples of their day and Jews of today are expecting.who is supposed to lead Israel and the world into the messiah age of peace, safety, harmony.

Mark 15:32 Let Christ the King of Israel descend now from the cross, that we may see and believe. And they that were crucified with him reviled him.

To become the Anti Christ, the person must become the King of Israel instead of and against Jesus the rightful king. The Jews are highly anticipating the arrival of their messiah, someone other than Jesus who they rejected. The person they will embrace as their King for a short time before he betrays them will be the Antichrist.

There is no "security agreement" for 7 years in the bible. The confirming of the Mt. Sinai covenant on a 7 years cycle is in the bible in Deuteronomy 31:9-13.
 
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no but I am sure about
-mystery
-seven hills
-many waters
-trade
-fallen, fallen
-found no more

-many waters ? How does Constantinople fit the many water which are...

15 And he saith unto me, The waters which thou sawest, where the harlot sitteth, are peoples, and multitudes, and nations, and tongues.

I am seeing the RCC as a fit.
 
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is that all you see?
Well, I asked you the question regarding Constantinople. But I think you agree, by not answering, that Constantinople is not a fit....as having a worldwide presence.

I see the Vatican, the headquarters of the RCC, as being located in Rome, seven hills, which could be considered seven mountains. I see Semiramis and Nimrod beginning false religion and rebellion against God. Which the Semiramis legend religion spread throughout the ancient world. And one of the religions that adapted some of the legend religion into Christianity was the RCC.

And I the Vatican having been historically and presently involved with the leadership of the various nations, Europe in particular. European politicians have had to accommodate the Vatican and Pope. And the hierarchy has had a brutal history of persecution of them who don't go along, under the guise of being declared heretics.

When the beast is worshiped as god and the ten kings get on board, the Vatican will be seen by them as big obstacle to their agenda - so they will have a reason to burn the Vatican to the ground. Probably taking the rest of Rome with it. But we don't know exactly how it is all going to play out... to know how Rome gets detroyed as well.
 
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I will explain what the Lord has shown me recently, I blogged a blog eight months ago and in the blog I stated that Rev. 17:18 was speaking of Rome,(from my perspective) within two months God had Revealed to me who Babylon was, who the Beast is and who the Harlot is. My opinion is my opinion, I never allow it to supersede God's revelation, in other words I do not hold on to the pride of my opinion. If you want to know who the Harlot, Beast and Babylon is read on.

To start with it is not a City, it is not Rome, Babylon proper, Jerusalem, NYC, it is not the RCC, Mecca or America. HINT: The Harlot and Babylon are two different entities. There is also NO MYSTERY BABYLON, I do not understand why we continue to say this, the Angel in 17:7 says this: Rev. 17: 7 And the angel said unto me, Wherefore didst thou marvel ? I will tell thee the mystery of the woman, and of the beast that carrieth her, which hath the seven heads and ten horns.

Since the Angel says I will explain the Mystery of the woman (Harlot) and the beast she rides (Seven Headed Beast) why do we insist that it is still a Mystery and why do we not understand that in Rev. 17:8-18 the Angel explains the Mystery to us ? Why do we miss what is in plain site ? Mystery (Musterion) in the Greek means Secret by Gods Silence, once God reveals the Secret/Mystery, it is no longer a Mystery.

The Seven Headed Beast is explained by the Angel first, many people say it sits on 7 hills, when the passage has nothing to do with hills or location, it is speaking of Seven Rulers who arise, we understand this because in the very next verse it speaks about the Seven Kings. So she sits on Seven Mountains which = Seven Rulers just like the Seven Heads = Seven Kingdoms. Then the Angel says Five have fallen, ONE IS, and one is YET TO COME. This is where we have to use our intelligence a wee bit. Who are these Kings ? Well we see in Rev. 13 when this Seven Headed Beast is described that the Beasts of Daniel are included, the Lion (Babylon) Bear (Persia) and Leopard (Greece) along with Rome of course as the fierce Beast/Dragon. So we are searching for the other three heads, who can they possibly be ? What is the commonality of the Beasts/Heads that are mentioned ? They each Conquered, Enslaved or Ruled Israel, that is what made them a "BEAST", so we need to go through history and find the other three common Beasts/Heads. Well lets see, after a little thought we should get this fairly easily, Egypt and Assyria Conquered/Enslaved Israel, and the Anti-Christ and his 10 Kings will according to prophecy Conquer Israel (Abomination of Desolation). So lets add this up, and see what the Angel has revealed to us.

Five Kings have fallen (Egypt, Assyria, Babylon, Persia, and Greece) ONE IS (Rome of course was Ruling Israel when John wrote Revelation) and one is YET TO COME (The Anti-Christ and his 10 Kings). We understand the Beast with Seven Heads now. This is why the USSR, China, the United States and even the British Empire or Ottoman Empire can not be a Beast or one of the Seven Heads, they never Conquered Israel, while Israel/PEOPLE were in the land. The Brits ruled Palestine as did the Ottoman Empire, but God dispersed Israel all over the World, this was why Ezekiel prophesied that Israel would be as "Dead Men's Bones" but we know those dead men's bones came Alive again in 1948, so after Rome, and up until 1948, there could be no Beast, because there was no Israel in the land. The Seven Headed Beast is revealed.

Now what does the Angel say about the Harlot/Woman ? Well firstly it says the Water she sat on is Peoples, Nations, Tongues and Multitudes. So right off the bat we understand she is Worldwide. A key is in Rev. 17:16 the Kings in league with the Beast destroy her, but why after all these years of being co-mingled together do they burn her and destroy her ? Because she is ALL FALSE RELIGION, and the Anti-Christ right after the Abomination of Desolation will demand to be Worshiped as the ONLY GOD !! The Anti-Christ will come after Israel, who flees to the Wilderness where God protects them for 1260 days (Rev. 12), he then comes after Christians who became Christians after the Rapture to Behead them, and he will destroy Islam, Buddhism and all Religions. He demands worship as the ONLY GOD !! Remember, the Harlot is Judged, this is a Chapter that Judges her. False Religion has the blood of the Saints AND the Martyrs on its hands.

Ever wonder why the Harlot is HATED by the Kings but when Babylon is destroyed the Kings Cry and Lament her demise ? Because they are TWO DIFFERENT ENTITIES !! Babylon is False Government and the Harlot is False Religion. People then say "but what about Rev. 17:18" that verse calls her a city ? Well the Angel was only reminding John what he SAW, and the vision was what ? A woman with four things imprinted on her head, MYSTERY, Babylon the Great, Abominations of the Earth and Mother of Harlots. The Angel just reminded John that she was BABYLON the Mother of FALSE RELIGIONS. Not a City, but a MEMORY which is repulsive to God the Father. Proof of this is in Rev. 16.

There really is no Rev. 17 and 18, Rev. 16 comes right before Rev. 19. Rev. 17 is only the Harlot {False Religion} being destroyed and that happens in Rev. 6 and 7, and Rev. 18 is only Babylon or the Last Beast Head of the Seven Headed Beast coming against Israel, getting the plagues of God rained down on them via the Trumpets and the Vials of God. Rev. 17 and 18 are just an enhanced retelling of things already told, thus in Rev. 16 we are told, IT IS DONE !!

In Rev. 16 the 6th Vial gathers the Nations against Israel (Anti-Christ/10 Kings which is Europe and the Kings of the East) and we know who meets them at Meggido don't we ? Jesus our Lord. After he lands on the Mt. of Olives (Zechariah 14) and splits it into (Earthquake). Rev. 16 tells it like this:

Rev. 16:16 And he gathered them together into a place called in the Hebrew tongue Armageddon. 17 And the seventh angel poured out his vial into the air; and there came a great voice out of the temple of heaven, from the throne, saying, It is done. (IT IS DONE !! No Rev. 17 or Rev. 18 exists per se.)

18 And there were voices, and thunders, and lightnings; and there was a great earthquake, such as was not since men were upon the earth, so mighty an earthquake, and so great. 19 And the great city was divided into three parts (Earthquake splits Jerusalem), and the cities of the nations fell: (BABYLON) and great Babylon came in remembrance before God, to give unto her the cup of the wine of the fierceness of his wrath.

So we see here that BABYLON is only a MEMORY, God sees the Nations that come against Israel as BABYLON, and gives them the fierceness of his wrath. Of course Jesus lands on the Mt. of Olives and destroys those Nations that come against Israel, that is their demise. God Judges False Religion or the Harlot in Rev 17:16, she is no more after this. This happens when the Anti-Christ places an Image of himself in the Temple and demands all to Worship him, at the MID-WAY POINT or in Rev. 6 and 7.

Babylon is destroyed by Gods plagues, Babylon is the Nations that come against Israel (the World) and God destroys her with His Plagues, which are the Seals/Trumpets and Vials. Babylons commerce is no doubt destroyed, that is what plagues do. Babylon is the habitation of Devils, Satan has been cast to earth and Apollyon and his horde of demons have been released from the pit in Rev. 9. The BOTTOM LINE IS :

The Harlot is FALSE RELIGION

Babylon is FALSE GOVERNMENT that tries to destroy Gods people, come after His authority, and deny His Godhead. It is not a City, it represents all that God sees as EVIL.
Its interesting how it says that he (the beast) is the eighth head, and is of the seven (or seventh, depending on the interpretation), and as far as I can understand it, there is only one way that a seven headed beast can have eight heads, and that is one of the heads is used twice. Only in this way could you have seven kings, and eight heads.
 
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What seven beasts, I keep asking you? Specifically stated in the bible? What seven beast kingdoms are specifically stated in the bible?

Revelations 17:
9 And here is the mind which hath wisdom. The seven heads are seven mountains, on which the woman sitteth.

10 And there are seven kings: five are fallen, and one is, and the other is not yet come; and when he cometh, he must continue a short space.

11 And the beast that was, and is not, even he is the eighth, and is of the seven, and goeth into perdition.


It doesn't say seven kingdoms, nor seven beasts. To fit what is said in the bible. there are 7 sequential kings associated with the place the woman sits, which is Rome, known as being the city of the seven hills, mountains.

The person becomes the Antichrist and later the beast is from the people who destroyed the city which was the Romans and their fourth empire. Which the little horn person and the ten kings in Daniel 7 come from the fourth empire - in the text.
Did you read my Original Post (OP) ? because I explain this in perfect detail.

The Harlot is SITTING on the Seven Headed Beast in Rev. 17, the Angel says let me explain to you the woman and the Beast she sits on. Then he says this woman sits on Seven Mountains which are Seven Kings....They have nothing to do with LOCATION, They are Seven Kings and FIVE have Fallen already !! The word used is the Greek word oro meaning : TO RISE OR REAR G3735. Notice in verse 9 it clearly says the Seven Heads are Seven Mountains (oro) so it is not speaking about Mountains but Rulers that ARISE and the Seven Heads of the Beast and the Seven "Mountains" she sits on are one and the same. Then the very next verse speaks of the SEVEN KINGS....It is not that hard to put this together, I don't know why people over complicate this.

So the Seven Mountains she sits on (Seven Rulers) is the Same as the Seven Headed Beast she sits on in verse 3. So the Seven Kings is the Same as the Seven Headed Beast. So we have this diagnosed, now we need to find out who the Beasts or who the Seven Different BEASTS are since the Beast has SEVEN HEADS.

Lets travel to Rev. chapter 13, let us see if we can figure out who the Seven Heads are.

Rev. 13:1 And I stood upon the sand of the sea, and saw a beast rise up out of the sea, having seven heads and ten horns, and upon his horns ten crowns, and upon his heads the name of blasphemy.

2 And the beast which I saw was like unto a leopard, and his feet were as the feet of a bear, and his mouth as the mouth of a lion: and the dragon gave him his power, and his seat, and great authority.

3 And I saw one of his heads as it were wounded to death; and his deadly wound was healed: and all the world wondered after the beast.

This is KEY: We see this Seven Headed Beast is described with the description of Daniels Four Beasts, or the description of three of the Beasts and another Beast whose Head was wounded, then Healed, which equals four. The Lion, Bear, and Leopard are a part of this Seven Headed Beast, and there is another Head (Rome was the only on left) which was Wounded and then Healed. We know from Daniel that the Last Beast arises out of the Fourth Beast, because a LITTLE HORN is described as arising out of the Fourth Beast. Thus the Head was Healed.

Since we know Daniels Beasts are a part of the Seven Headed Beast, our job is to figure out what makes a Beast. So what did Babylon, Persia, Greece and Rome all have in common ? They all Conquered, Enslaved or Ruled Israel, thus they were seen as Beasts !! Now we have to find the other three Heads which were Beasts also. Since we have that which what qualifies a Beast to be a Beast all we have to do is search history for the other THREE BEAST HEADS.

Egypt and Assyria are a given, we know they Conquered/Enslaved Israel. We also know the Anti-Christ and His 10 Kings (10 Horns with 10 Crowns in Rev 13:1) will Conquer Israel, this is why the whole ISRAEL ACCEPTS HIM AS THEIR MESSIAH is (sorry) hogwash, he is a BEAST and is called the BEAST because he Conquers Israel, he is a BEAST, he is not nor was he ever seen in the bible as Israels Accepted Messiah, that is just bad interpretation of the Holy Word of God, imho.

So we now understand the SEVEN HEADED BEAST and who each Head represents. This is why John (Jesus/Angel) told us that the Lion, Leopard and the Bear was a part of this Beast that Arises out of the Sea. ITS A CLUE !! The book of Revelation is ENCODED with the Old Testament, when I finally got that, when that finally sunk in, I understood how to interpret the book of Revelation. THAT IS THEY KEY, it is encoded with the Old Testament.
 
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To become the Antichrist the person must be anointed the King of Israel.
Why ? If I wanted to become Anti-president of the United States I don't have to become the president do I ? To become Anti-U.N. Chief I do not have to head the U.N. do I ? You see how off base you are in your critical thinking without even realizing it ? You have it stuck in your mind that the Anti-Christ has to be be a FAKE MESSIAH, and that is just not factual, all this man has to be is ANTI everything the Christ/Messiah stands for. ANTI- Israel, Anti- Christs Church, Anti peace etc. etc.

He only has to be ANTI the Anointed one, h doesn't have to be ANOINTED BY ISRAEL.

The term Christ, english version of Greek christos, is derived from the hebrew word for anointed. "The" christ, the messiah, is the special king of Israel, the disciples of their day and Jews of today are expecting.who is supposed to lead Israel and the world into the messiah age of peace, safety, harmony.

And the Holy Word says they accept their Messiah, (Zechariah 12:10 and Malachi 4:5-6) before the Day of the Lord, which is the Days of Coming Wrath, so they accept Jesus before the Abomination of Desolation happens.

To become the Anti Christ, the person must become the King of Israel instead of and against Jesus the rightful king. The Jews are highly anticipating the arrival of their messiah, someone other than Jesus who they rejected. The person they will embrace as their King for a short time before he betrays them will be the Antichrist.

No he doesn't, as I explained above, that is just not factual, it is something that has creeped into your thinking from somewhere and it is just not the case. This man makes a SECURITY/PEACE DEAL with Israel, Danial 9:27 basically says he forces this deal upon Israel, then reneges on the Deal. Nowhere does the bible, and I repeat NOWHERE dos it say this Man of Sin/Anti-Christ/Beast becomes the King of Israel, that is just a fabricated position.

There is no "security agreement" for 7 years in the bible. The confirming of the Mt. Sinai covenant on a 7 years cycle is in the bible in Deuteronomy 31:9-13.
The Bible says different. There is an AGREEMENT in Danial 9:27. In Daniel 9 it says by Peace (Security) he Destroys many. COVENANT MEANS AGREEMENT.

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Its interesting how it says that he (the beast) is the eighth head, and is of the seven (or seventh, depending on the interpretation), and as far as I can understand it, there is only one way that a seven headed beast can have eight heads, and that is one of the heads is used twice. Only in this way could you have seven kings, and eight heads.

Well we have a Seven Headed Beast, the body of the Seven Heads make up the 8th, but there is no 8th as per conquering Israel, what this signifies, imho, is that all Seven of the Beasts that Conquer Israel are a part of the Satanic plan to conquer Israel, they are all one and OF SATAN so to speak if you get my point. In other words the 8th King (Satan) was of the Seven meaning he was a party to every one of these Beasts in that he influenced them. Only Satan a Demon could be of all Seven, we know it couldn't be a man, so we must assume this 8th King that is of all Seven is a Demonic being. Satan or Apollyon.

I think we only have Seven Heads with 8 Kings. Meaning Satan is the ultimate King of all Seven Heads.

God Bless
 
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Well, I asked you the question regarding Constantinople. But I think you agree, by not answering, that Constantinople is not a fit....as having a worldwide presence.
constantinople was the greatest city of the world
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the world center of trade
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rome has never been and will never be famous for trade
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can you just ignore that?
 
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The harlot is worldly Christianity, as opposed to the 144,000 who are spiritual Christianity. The entire world is deceived by the teachings of worldly Christianity into corrupt understanding of the Word of God. Spiritual Christianity destroys worldly Christianity at the appointed time by revealing the pure unworldly understanding of the Word of God. This is why we see heaven opened and the Word of God slaying all flesh (which flesh is a symbol of corrupt worldly understanding).

The harlot is Christianity as taught by the false teachers, the tares; which deceives the world, and fornicates the spiritual understanding with the carnal understanding. Worldly Christianity is Babylon the Great who awaits the coming of her king on Tevet 10.
 
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The harlot is worldly Christianity,
so why don't you and others think it is a city?
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And the woman which thou sawest is that great city
17:18
that great city Babylon, that mighty city
18:10
alas that great city
18:16
What city is like unto this great city
18:18
alas that great city
18:19
that great city Babylon
18:21
 
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so why don't you and others think it is a city?
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And the woman which thou sawest is that great city
17:18
that great city Babylon, that mighty city
18:10
alas that great city
18:16
What city is like unto this great city
18:18
alas that great city
18:19
that great city Babylon
18:21

I believe she is a city: a spiritual city. Specifically, Jerusalem. But, not worldly Jerusalem; one who understands these things according to the worldly mind are the worldly Christianity who is, the harlot. But, spiritual Jerusalem: the identity of this harlot is a replay of Ezekiel 16, except in a spiritual way. First, there was the natural; afterward, the spiritual.

The book of Revelation is about spiritual things, and, not worldly things. Those teaching worldly understanding of these things are part of the harlot. She represents corrupt understanding of the Word of God with the wine of her worldly fornication; she deceives the people of the earth with corrupt understanding of the Word of God, causing strife, division, and confusion among the nations: the way of peace she does not know. The warring in the Revelation is a war of teachers; the elected ones coming to make war against the false teachers and overcome them with the Word of God; to the glory of God.

The things are symbols, much like a mountain is the symbol of a kingdom (which is why the 144,000 stand on Mount Zion): the candlesticks are symbols of churches; etc. The city of Babylon is a symbol of worldly Christianity which teaches "another Jesus" than the Jesus of the everlasting gospel.
 
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what other Jesus is there?

This one: 2 Corinthians 11:2-4 He is the Jesus of the worldly Christians, who receive the spirit of the world: 1 Corinthians 2:12 and became the servants of corruption: 2 Peter 2:19 who have deceived the world by the teaching of a worldly Word of God: 2 Peter 2:12 (notice "as natural brute beasts" which is why we are seeing this "beast" in the Revelation) but they are burned up by the fire which proceeds from the mouths of the two witnesses (the spiritual teachers who teach the Word of God uncorrupted by the worldly understanding): Revelation 11:5, Jeremiah 5:14: they are the saviours who judge the mountains: Obadiah 1:18, Obadiah 1:21, Revelation 14:1, Revelation 11:15: and having the worldly understanding destroyed by the Word of God; the creation is liberated from the corruption of the worldy Christian teachings: 2 Corinthians 2:17, Romans 8:21
 
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Why ? If I wanted to become Anti-president of the United States I don't have to become the president do I ? To become Anti-U.N. Chief I do not have to head the U.N. do I ? You see how off base you are in your critical thinking without even realizing it ? You have it stuck in your mind that the Anti-Christ has to be be a FAKE MESSIAH, and that is just not factual, all this man has to be is ANTI everything the Christ/Messiah stands for. ANTI- Israel, Anti- Christs Church, Anti peace etc. etc.

He only has to be ANTI the Anointed one, h doesn't have to be ANOINTED BY ISRAEL.
no, I am not off at all. You misread and misunderstand what I wrote, as well as the scriptures. "the" messiah, is one and only one special person to become the King of Israel, Son of David, sent by and chosen by God. It is not an office like the president of the United States, or head of the U.N.

Israel does not "anoint" anyone. The first four kings of Israel, beginning with Saul, then David, then Solomon were anointed by prophets. Saul and David, by Samuel. Solomon, by Nathan. There have only been those three kings over united Israel.

It is likely that the false prophet of Revelation 13 will anoint the Antichrist.

The rider on the white in Revelation 7 is given a crown. That crown is that he will become the King of Israel, illegitimate. Being the rider on the white horse is the only time the person is pictured as the Antichrist in Revelation. The other places the person is found in Revelation is as the beast after his stint as the Antichrist is over.

The person first becomes the little horn; then becomes the prince who shall come; then becomes the Antichrist; then becomes the revealed man of sin; then becomes the beast. There is no alternative interpretation.

No he doesn't, as I explained above, that is just not factual, it is something that has creeped into your thinking from somewhere and it is just not the case. This man makes a SECURITY/PEACE DEAL with Israel, Danial 9:27 basically says he forces this deal upon Israel, then reneges on the Deal. Nowhere does the bible, and I repeat NOWHERE dos it say this Man of Sin/Anti-Christ/Beast becomes the King of Israel, that is just a fabricated position.

Daniel 9:27 says confirms the covenant for seven years in the text - not forces a security peace deal with Israel for 7years. It is not me who is fabricating. "the" covenant is the Mt. Sinai covenant and is the covenant referred to by Daniel as he was praying to God. The for 7 years is the cycle for confirming the Mt. Sinai covenant right in the text of Deuteronomy 31:9-13.

The person is not in the man of sin stage, nor the beast stage, when he is in the Antichrist stage. The person becomes the Antichrist before he reveals himself as the man of sin. Which that action will end his time as the King of Israel, because the Jews will reject him as continuing as their King.

The person is killed for his act, Ezekiel 1-10; then find himself in hell, Isaiah 14; then is cast out of hell, Isiaha14:18-19 because he destroys his land and his people; and becomes the beast of Revelation 13 the remaining 42 months.

The person first becomes the little horn; then becomes the prince who shall come; then becomes the Antichrist; then becomes the revealed man of sin; then becomes the beast. There is no alternative interpretation.

A good pastor isn't necessarily a great end times expert. I am not a pastor, or preacher, nor called to be such, but I have been taught by Jesus to be an expert on the end times.
 
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So the Seven Mountains she sits on (Seven Rulers) is the Same as the Seven Headed Beast she sits on in verse 3. So the Seven Kings is the Same as the Seven Headed Beast. So we have this diagnosed, now we need to find out who the Beasts or who the Seven Different BEASTS are since the Beast has SEVEN HEADS.
The translators of the KJV have already translated the Greek.

But you have decided to do you own translating, I guess.

The bible doesn't say anything about seven different beasts. It is one beast with 7 heads John did not see seven (different) beasts each with it own head.
 
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This is KEY: We see this Seven Headed Beast is described with the description of Daniels Four Beasts, or the description of three of the Beasts and another Beast whose Head was wounded, then Healed, which equals four. The Lion, Bear, and Leopard are a part of this Seven Headed Beast, and there is another Head (Rome was the only on left) which was Wounded and then Healed. We know from Daniel that the Last Beast arises out of the Fourth Beast, because a LITTLE HORN is described as arising out of the Fourth Beast. Thus the Head was Healed.

Since we know Daniels Beasts are a part of the Seven Headed Beast, our job is to figure out what makes a Beast. So what did Babylon, Persia, Greece and Rome all have in common ? They all Conquered, Enslaved or Ruled Israel, thus they were seen as Beasts !! Now we have to find the other three Heads which were Beasts also. Since we have that which what qualifies a Beast to be a Beast all we have to do is search history for the other THREE BEAST HEADS.
You wrote: "The Lion, Bear, and Leopard are a part of this Seven Headed Beast,"

What part? The beast's body, his feet, his mouth - but none of his heads. None of heads represent the lion, bear, leopard kingdoms.
 
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constantinople was the greatest city of the world
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the world center of trade
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rome has never been and will never be famous for trade
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can you just ignore that?
Have you never heard - All roads lead to Rome?
 
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