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Trump and Australian Casino History

It seems Donald Trump was once involved in the casino industry in Australia, although it was nearly forty years ago.

There were claims of mafia links even back then.

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Justice Dept. and Watchdog finds FBI mishandling Child Sexual Abuse Cases

These kinds of crimes, especially involving ones that occur in cyber space often leave most law enforcement agencies "deficient".

Both in terms of resources (financial and staffing), as well as just overall knowledge. "Elite Level Cyber Guru" isn't exactly a super common skill set,

Is that what goes on your resumes @ThatRobGuy? Elite Level Cyber Guru?



often times they're probably forced to rely on people who are a little less "elite" in terms of their subject matter expertise in that area.


The actual field agents, I would presume, can only act on leads and intel that can be procured (or received and verified) by their cyber teams.

Exactly...or else that other Department that makes sure everyone is doing what they're supposed to and nothing else will get involved and tell them to knock it off.

Verification takes time and meticulous research (as it should...we don't want them raiding the wrong house on a civilian tip about who has certain kinds of files on their computer, or based on a crafty hacker being able to spoof someone else's IP address)

The grand total of specialized cyber team agents within the FBI. Drumroll please...... 65.
(plus a small joint task force they run with 20 state & local agencies that have "slightly above average" cyber crime teams when compared to other local law enforcement agencies that they can delegate some of the tasks to)

That's it.

Most Fortune 500 companies have cyber specialist teams that are bigger than that.

And when you consider how many of those companies have been hit by ransomware or phishing campaigns that succeeded.....

Given the vast size and scope of the "dark web" (which is where much of the illegal stuff takes place), the non-tech equivalent would be taking 5 regular uniformed officers, and saying "okay, your job is to keep this 200 mile radius safe and respond to incidents quickly"...of course they're going to come up short much of the time, because in that scenario, they've been set up to fail.

That's an interesting way of looking at it
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‘Patently Anti-Religious’: Tim Walz Has History Of Restricting Faith-Based Institutions

‘Patently Anti-Religious’: Tim Walz Has History Of Restricting Faith-Based Institutions​

Democratic vice presidential candidate Tim Walz has faced multiple lawsuits for allegedly infringing on religious liberty during his time as Minnesota governor.

Walz encountered legal challenges for lockdown policies that religious organizations argued were discriminatory, placing stricter requirements on churches than businesses. He also encountered pushback after signing a law that stripped faith-based schools of funding for a program that offers free college credits to high school students.

Walz determined in a May 13, 2020, executive order that retailers would be allowed to reopen at 50% capacity, but left religious gatherings capped at ten people. After Catholic and Lutheran churches in the state announced plans to resume meeting in-person regardless of the governor’s order, he negotiated to allow religious groups to operate at 25% capacity, according to the Star Tribune.

Two churches nevertheless moved forward with their lawsuit over discriminatory treatment. Walz settled in May 2021 after the state’s motion to dismiss was denied, agreeing to treat religious gatherings the same as “the least restricted secular business regulated by the order.”

Three churches backed by the Thomas More Society also filed a lawsuit in August 2020 arguing Walz violated their religious liberties by mandating masks, limiting capacity and requiring social distancing.

“Governor Walz, a former teacher, gets an F in religious liberties,” Thomas More Society special counsel Erick Kaardal said in a press release at the time.

The Minnesota Supreme Court upheld in May Walz’s declaration of a peacetime emergency in response to COVID-19, according to the Upper Midwest Law Center.

Becket senior counsel Diana Thomson called the state’s decision to exclude faith-based schools “patently anti-religious.”

This is concerning. Between Waltz and Harris if they get in the US will have one of the most radical Leftist governments in the west. I have been following the US election from afar. But I have been following US politics for some time especially relating to Leftist ideology which is not just restricted to the US. In my country Australia similar is happening but not as extreme, 'yet'. But the same is happening in other western nations in Surope, Canada and Brtiain.

This example of the use of government position and power to control people seems to be a common theme with the Left and especially with the current Biden administration and the nominees for the upcoming election.

I notice issues like how the Biden/Harris adminstration through the FBI were spying on the Catholic church. I notice how Harris has relentlessly persued certain people for political reasons such as the protestors on Jan 6 while trying to excuse the protestors who caused millions of $$$ damage, looting and assulting. There seems to be a number of individual cases like this. I see the manipulation of media by government to censor information that they don't want and manipulation headlines to push their false narratives.

If we step back and take a look whats happening, the bigger picture or rather whats the underlying motivation and ideology behind all this we can see how this is an evolution of greater State interference and control over the years.. In otherwords the evolution of a totalitarian State. But I think the current situation is the culmination of ideology that has been cultivated in academia and into the institutions and onto mainstream society.

So its not something that just happened to happen. The rise of radical Leftist ideology and now having the prospect of having a radical Leftist government in the US is the symptom of the underlying ideology. The underlying ideology is like any political ideology be it Marxism, Feminism, Neo, Libralism or Facism. Its a belief, an assumption about how society is and should be ordered.

Basically I think its a mixture of ideas that have come before like cultural Marism, Postmodernism, Social Constructionism and the end result is what we call Woke, PC and Identity politics.

Theres also a moral basis and I think since God has been taken out of the public square other moral systems will fill the void. Thats being PC or Woke. Compassion in the form of protecting people and upholding their rights is used as the Trojan Horse to bring in the ideology and enforce it in schools, in the public institutions and the wider society.

But I think there is some hope. As this ideology has been going for a while now enough time has passed where we are seeing the reality of this ideology being exposed for what it is, an unreal belief and not fact or reality. We seen this with the winding back of Trans ideology in health, DEI in corporations though still an ongoing issue.

But also with episodes like the Olympic games opening ceremoney mocking Christians. France is an example of how the extreme end of this ideology can take over. Canada is another. But many episodes of good people being cancelled, crazy antisemetic protestors, males in womens sports, millions of illegal immigrants flooding into many western nations and now resulting in chaos and violence.

A big part of this takeover I think is the destruction of the family institute. They say that in totalitarian nations one of the first institutions to go to allow the State to creep further into all areas of life is the family as the family hold a lod of independent power. Also marriage and then religion. It seems that is exactly what we are seeing and another red flag for a coming total control by government.
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Fireballs in the Sky

I heard in the news about a strange boom heard over New York City, then about more like events happening which were seen to be fireballs, and it seems to be happening elsewhere. Here is a description of the one heard this Friday morning in the south near Tennessee. "A bright line shooting across the night sky and the sound of an explosion is what many are describing after a suspected meteor shot across the night sky early Friday morning.

Home security cameras recorded the fireball shooting across the Tennessee and North Carolina night sky around 1:15 a.m. on Friday morning. Witness accounts show the fireball was first visible over eastern Tennesse before crossing into the skies over western North Carolina.

Appearing first as a dot streaking across the night sky, the light grows in intensity as the meteor appears to burn up in the Earth's atmosphere. The bright light was followed a few moments later by an explosion-like sound."
I am not an Adventist, but astronomy is fascinating. This is cool. Nothing wrong with this stuff, as these fireballs are harmless. The verse below applies to all denominations, and tells us to be not afraid. :) Philippians 4 is very comforting. Now, if only those fireballs were visible from Wisconsin.

Philippians 4:6-7 (NIV): "Do not be anxious about anything, but in every situation, by prayer and petition, with thanksgiving, present your requests to God. And the peace of God, which transcends all understanding, will guard your hearts and your minds in Christ Jesus."

Anyways, back to Star Trek Deep Space 9. If you have any astronomy questions, just ask @sjastro or me, preferably in the science section of the forums, as I am not a Seventh Day Adventist, and am posting here in fellowship as a fellow Christian.
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Do we believe Athanasius

Thanks for the link. Besides the mention of Baruch, I note:

1. In paragraph 7, Athanasius puts Esther in the non-canonical category.

2. It's not clear from the list whether Athanasius intends the longer or shorter version of Daniel in his list.

I'd say that, while this is a useful list, the canon still seems to be in flux at this point.

Indeed, it was in flux; his letter was authoritative only within the Church of Alexandria, but what made the 39th Paschal Encyclical important was that it was the first document that has the 27 book New Testament protocanon that everyone now accepts, which at the time was not the case (you had for example the Peshitta Canon, which excluded 2 Peter, Revelation and 3 other books and was for a time the official canon of the Church of the East, and still is the basis of their lectionary system).
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Why should churches and church leaders be in politics?

I feel like if you are part of a church, the focus should be doing God's work, and politics is a distraction. "Render unto Ceasar". But I agree with your statement above, if we have a vote, why would you want to allow non-Christians to spread their worldview and Godless agendas? Why wouldn't you want to live under Christian values as much as you can?
Truth. The reality of human nature is that it will always fall to the lowest common degeneracy. This is where a pure democracy will take you. If you do not participate, that is where it will inevitably fall. I am not criticizing, only stating a fact. It will inevitably fall if we do not exercise our faith and standards in this culture. Some say it has already started down that "slippery slope" and is beyond the point of no return. Derek Prince said that a nation is like an apple. Once it has started to rot, it will not stop. I do not participate in politics any longer beyond voting. I try to make public displays of faith, like praying over a meal and wearing Jesus/Christian tee-shirts. We cannot allow our culture to cast these behaviors out as abnormal or cultish.
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From Kamala's own words

Dear me. Presented without context. She was talking about recidivism. From here: https://www.reuters.com/fact-check/clip-harris-calling-young-people-stupid-lacks-context-2024-07-26/

'The longer, original footage shows Harris presenting a program aimed at lowering recidivism among young offenders with better reintegration.'

Didn't you check? This is desperate stuff indeed. The full video is here:

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See from 16:30 for more context. But if you have the time, see what she did for young offenders in California when she was DA. Commendable.
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Why are Christians patriotic?

The Russian empire rooted from a different influence, but the earlier root of "state religion Christianity" would have been similar.

I'm pretty sure we see/apply British Israelism differently.

Why are you acting as if we have some strong disagreement if we simply using the term differently? Am I being stuck up on that particular theory? No. I just thought thats what that term refers to. If you think it refers to something else, then fine, tell me what it is. I am asking genuine questions but your one-sentence answers seem to suggest like I am taking some sort of adversarial stance.
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Trump's comments on Florida's abortion ballot initiative, IVF draw mixed reactions from pro-lifers

Pro-life demonstrators hold 'Most Pro-Life President Ever' signs during the 47th annual 'March for Life' in Washington, DC, on Jan. 24, 2020. 'Most Pro-Life President Ever' signs during the 47th annual 'March for Life' in Washington, DC, on Jan. 24, 2020.
Pro-life demonstrators hold "Most Pro-Life President Ever" signs during the 47th annual "March for Life" in Washington, DC, on Jan. 24, 2020. | Nicholas Kamm /AFP via Getty Images

Former President Donald Trump drew mixed reactions from pro-life advocacy organizations Thursday, with some believing he suggested he would vote for an amendment to create a right to abortion in the Florida Constitution, a claim a spokesperson has denied.

Trump, the Republican nominee for president of the United States in the 2024 presidential election, spoke with NBC News' Dasha Burns at one of his campaign rallies in Potterville, Michigan. She asked him how, as a Florida resident, he intended to vote on Florida's Amendment 4 that would "overturn the six-week ban" on abortion.

"I think the six-week is too short," he replied. "It has to be more time."

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A lot of republicans have said they support the Supreme Court's decision to leave it up to the states to decide when it comes to abortion.

Right now there are some states that have no-limit on abortion at all. 9-month abortions are just fine with them. how horrible.

There is a degree of common sense that all humans should be able to agree to - even with no Bible at all. And that is -- if a baby is born and the parent kills the baby then it is murder according to a great many states in America. That is the age at which I think abortion should be considered to be illegal - across the board. If the state is willing to charge the parent with the crime of murder for a baby of a certain age to be killed after having been born -- then a 'human' capable of rational thought - should then be able to agree that killing that same baby 20 minutes before it is born - is ALSO a crime.

people may also argue that x-months before the state would charge the parent who killed the baby with murder - if the baby was born at that early stage --- (I for one would be very glad if that were indeed the debate that we had, rather than the existing horrific case we a saddled with at this point)
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#33 in Christian persecution, Tunisia

Christians comprise a tiny minority in Tunisia. Traditional churches such as the Roman Catholic and Orthodox churches, which largely serve foreign Christians, are officially recognised by the government and enjoy a relative amount of freedom, although public evangelism isn’t tolerated.
Tunisian Christians, however, aren’t officially recognised and do not have officially recognised church buildings. Tunisians who convert from Islam to Christianity face a level of hostility that forces many to keep their faith secret. This is especially true in the south, where the Muslim population is more conservative.
Gathering with other Christians brings risk of exposure due to monitoring by the Tunisian security services. If a believer’s faith is discovered, it can have a damaging impact on their daily life, including verbal and physical abuse, rejection by loved ones and job insecurity.
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Meet Aizah​

“I trust that God is with us as we see more hardship. We have resilience because we know who our Saviour is. I also rejoice as more hardship makes young people come to Him.”
Aizah (name changed) from North Africa, who comes from a Muslim background.

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Newsboys - Shine (1994)

I think I have the radio/single version of this song on CD, somewhere.
I met an earlier version of the Newsboys (pre-fame) in '88.
Wow, Newsboys in the 1980s? That is pretty awesome. It is good that you have the radio version on CD. Was the radio version on a full sized CD, or one of these strange devices that are smaller versions of the CD, the Mini CD (80 mm), not to be confused with the encased minidisk.

Mini CD (aww, they are so tiny). Sadly, I never owned a mini CD, plus those could only store 21-24 minutes of music:

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State gov't attacks on pro-life pregnancy care centers on the rise, legal expert says

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New York Attorney General Letitia James speaks during a press conference at the office of the Attorney General on July 13, 2022 in New York City. NY AG James announced today that her office has reached a settlement of $500,000 for more than a dozen current and former employees of the Sweet and Vicious, a bar in Manhattan, after a 16-month investigation into allegations of sexual harassment, discrimination and wage theft at the establishment.
New York Attorney General Letitia James speaks during a press conference at the office of the Attorney General on July 13, 2022 in New York City. NY AG James announced today that her office has reached a settlement of $500,000 for more than a dozen current and former employees of the Sweet and Vicious, a bar in Manhattan, after a 16-month investigation into allegations of sexual harassment, discrimination and wage theft at the establishment. | Getty Images/Michael M. Santiago

State government legal attacks on pro-life pregnancy care centers have been increasing since the U.S. Supreme Court overturned Roe v. Wade in June 2022, according to a conservative legal expert.

Daniel Schmid, associate vice president of Legal Affairs at Liberty Counsel, told The Christian Post in an interview Thursday that he believed "there's no question" that such attacks are on the rise.

"You see it with the efforts by the attorney general in New York; you're seeing it in Massachusetts right now with the AG there and the governor engaging in this campaign to smear a bunch of pro-life centers to the point where there is a lawsuit now against the attorney general and the Commonwealth of Massachusetts," he said.

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Harris' record is even more extreme-left than Bernie Sanders - so expect more aggressive gov't actions against the right to life under such a regime not less.
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Catholic Theological Journals

No offense,
None taken. When I share this stuff with friends they are like, :scratch:

And I find some of it over my head and yet still challenging my intellect and my understanding of who Christ is and what it is all about.
I come across things that never would have occurred to me on my own yet worth considering. I am loving the "dangerous memory of Jesus".

"In the phrase made popular in theological circles by Johannes Baptist Metz, the story of Jesus’ passion and death constitutes a “dangerous memory.” His memory confronts us with the terrible realities of misunderstanding, injustice and innocent suffering. And his memory places before us the surprising possibility that God can and does accomplish great things even in the midst of terrible sufferings. Holy Week helps us keep Jesus’ memory alive."
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Psalm 70: A Prayer in Time of Need Psalm 70:1-5

Text:
“Make haste, O God, to deliver me; make haste to help me, O Lord. Psalm 70:1.
Good morning, active service Christian! Not for you the weekly ‘I have a new suit’, or ‘I have a new hat’ formal church meeting Christianity. No! You realise exactly what depths of sin you have been saved from, and have almost felt the heat of the coals of the Hell you were going to, before the Sovereign Lord God quickened your spirit by His Spirit, and delivered your Eternal soul from your sin and its dire consequences. Praise God, you are saved to serve the risen Christ Jesus. Hallelujah! Thank the Lord for genuine active service Christians! Glory to the Lamb!
Psalm 70 is a Psalm of David which correspond closely, or is perhaps even David’s later appendage to, Psalm 40:13-17. It has a similar focus as this latter section of Psalm 40, and contains also the imprecatory theme of Psalm 69, and Psalm 109.
Dictionary Definition: Imprecate – (verb transitive) to call down by prayer (especially something evil); to invoke evil upon, to put a curse on; to curse or blaspheme. (The Chambers Dictionary, page 807)
“Other imprecatory Psalms are Psalm 35; Psalm 58; Psalm 83; Psalm 109; and Psalm 137 – and of course, Psalm 69…. All of these Psalms may be utilised in prayer by the Christian being severely persecuted by the world, the flesh, and the Devil. Christians are NOT POWERLESS, but POWERFUL.”
(Dr C.K. McClinton, Searching in Psalms, Book 2, www.ulsterchristians.org)

Psalm 70 seems to break down into five themed verses of prayer, which I have noted below.
1. Present Danger Need: Psalm 70:1
2. A Curse for Pursuers: Psalm 70:2
3. A Curse Upon Scoffers: Psalm 70:3
4. Encouragement for fellow saints: Psalm 70:4
5. A Return to Urgent Need: Psalm 70:5
1. Present Danger Need: “Make haste, O God, to deliver me; make hast to help me, O Lord.”

Active service Christians are more familiar with the urgency of this serious prayer contained in verse 1 of Psalm 70, probably due to the fact that the ‘Sunday-going-to-meeting’ Christian knows little of praying this type of prayer, or in fact the need to pray such prayers at all! They often sit comfortably behind an imagined righteousness that comes from regular attendance at ‘church’ meetings; charity works and membership of charitable organisations; and mingling with the so-called ‘great and good’ of social and political society.
Doing the Devil and his vile kingdom no harm, the Devil and his myrmidons feel no need to attack such ‘Sunday Christians’, therefore, they tend to drift through life as professing Christians, yet seldom experience the very real dangers and torments of active service saints.
“Examine yourselves, whether ye be in the faith; prove your own selves, how that Jesus Christ is in you, except ye be reprobates. But I trust that ye shall know that we are not reprobates?... For we can do nothing against the truth, but for the truth.” (2 Corinthians 13:5-8)
Now, look again at David’s urgent cry for God’s prompt help: “Make haste, O God, to deliver me; make hast to help me, O Lord.” This is the cry of one in real danger, the hounds are biting at his ears as he, like a fox, runs for a hole in which to hide! ‘Help, Lord!’
2. A Curse for Pursuers: “Let them be ashamed and confounded that seek after my soul: let them be turned backward an put to confusion, that desire my hurt.”
The Psalmist can almost be seen as fleeing hard on horseback, his pursuers racing behind, and him flinging back this curse, this imprecation, over his shoulder to put a prompt end to the present danger pursuing his very soul! This is very real active service for the Lord God.
3. A Curse Upon Scoffers: “Let them be turned back for a reward of their shame that say, Aha, aha.” “They thought to shame the godly, but it was their shame and shall be their shame forever. How fond men are of taunts, and if they are meaningless aha’s, more like animal cries than human words, it matters nothing, so long as they are a vent for scorn and sting the victim. Rest assured, the enemies of Christ and His people shall have wages for their work; they shall be paid in their own coin; they loved scoffing, and they shall be filled with it, - yeah, they shall become a proverb and a by-word forever.” (C.H. Spurgeon, Treasury of David, page 304)
4. Encouragement for fellow saints: “Let all those that seek Thee rejoice and be glad in Thee: and let such as love Thy Salvation say continually, Let God be magnified.”
Being so well-aware of what other active service believers were going through - via his own personal experience of temporal and Satanic oppositions – the Psalmist shows both his compassion for his fellow-serving saints, and his love for the true and genuine active church by asking the Lord God to grant them a full rejoicing and gladness in Him. Then he almost shouts the victory shout: “…Let God be magnified!” Hallelujah! Active service praise.
5. A Return to Urgent Need: “But I am poor and needy: make haste unto me, O God: Thou art my help and my Deliverer; O Lord, make no tarrying.”
We have often heard the adage, ‘Charity starts at home’, and thus, we understand that if we are to be of any active service to our wonderful Holy Lord God and Saviour, Jesus Christ, we must first put our own house in order; our own personal circumstances and daily state – before we can more profitably be of active service and help to other needy souls.
“Thou hypocrite, first cast out the beam out of thine own eye; and then shalt thou see clearly to cast out the mote out of thy brother’s eye.” (Matthew 7:5) (1 John 1:8-19)
Thought: The Psalmist first confesses his own urgent needs before crying out with confidence for the help of his Holy Saviour and Lord. The Lord always hears the pleas of His repentant servants, and comes swiftly to our aid. Pray on, active Christian.

(c) Dr C.K. McClinton
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Kamala's 3rd-world America: if she gets "elected", this will only get worse

Colorado city council member fires back after governor's office dismisses armed gang takeover as 'imagination'​

Democrat governor of Colorado Jared Polis dismissed outrage over a video showing what appears to be armed Venezuelan gang members in an apartment building as "imagination" despite significant evidence.

Aurora City Council member Danielle Jurinsky fired back after the governor's denial, saying "I am so disappointed."

In a statement shared to the New York Post, Polis' spokeswoman Shelby Wieman claimed, "The Governor has already let the Mayor know that the State is ready to support the local police department with assistance from state troopers and the Colorado Bureau of Investigation if needed."

"But, according to police intelligence this purported invasion is largely a feature of Danielle Jurinsky’s imagination," added Wieman.

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Why cover a well with a large stone?

Genesis 29:

1 Jacob went on his journey and came to the land of the people of the east. 2 As he looked, he saw a well in the field, and behold, three flocks of sheep lying beside it, for out of that well the flocks were watered. The stone on the well’s mouth was large, 3 and when all the flocks were gathered there, the shepherds would roll the stone from the mouth of the well and water the sheep, and put the stone back in its place over the mouth of the well.
Wouldn't it be more convenient if the well wasn't covered by a large stone?

There were some reasons for covering the well with a large stone:

  1. It prevented easy access to the water. Supposedly, the stone could only be removed through a group effort.
  2. It provided a measure of security. It was an indication of who owned the water.
  3. It minimized evaporation by lowering the temperature inside the well.
  4. It kept dirt, debris, and animals from falling into and contaminating the water supply.
  5. It prevented wind erosion of the mouth of the well.
  6. It prevented people from accidentally falling into the well.
Covering wells with large stones was common in ancient Near Eastern cultures, reflecting the vital importance of water sources in these regions.

More specifically, in the romantic story of Jacob meets Rachel, the stone symbolizes his super-strength to overcome.

Oklahoma eliminates Grocery tax!

Ah, then before Oklahoma eliminated the food tax we were already paying less than those in Germany -

I love Germany, I'm there three to four times a year. I'll be in Berlin this time, with a stop in Stuttgart. The Netherlands in December, Greece in January and then back to Germany in February.

Good people, good food! Great Churches.
Taxes in germany are generally higher than in the USA.
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