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CF has always been a site that welcomes people from different backgrounds and beliefs to participate in discussion and even debate. That is the nature of its ministry. In view of recent events emotions are running very high. We need to remind people of some basic principles in debating on this site. We need to be civil when we express differences in opinion. No personal attacks. Avoid you, your statements. Don't characterize an entire political party with comparisons to Fascism or Communism or other extreme movements that committed atrocities. CF is not the place for broad brush or blanket statements about groups and political parties. Put the broad brushes and blankets away when you come to CF, better yet, put them in the incinerator. Debate had no place for them. We need to remember that people that commit acts of violence represent themselves or a small extreme faction.
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Can we talk about the 2020 vote now?
- General Politics
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From the charts in my previous post, there were 16 million more people who voted in 2020 vs 2024, is the quibbling over the other 4 million?This hypothesis doesn't seem to hold much water because Trump still got 74 million votes, and still did significantly better with minority groups than past Republicans. The supposed anti-Trump sentiment was not reflected in his numbers.
Then there's this little doozy...
From 1980 to 2016, 19 counties voted for the winner of the presidential election every single time. The most impressive of those was Valencia County, New Mexico, which voted for the victor in every presidential election from 1952 to 2016.
But in 2020, 18 of these 19 “bellwether counties” voted for former President Donald Trump. Just one — Clallam County, Washington — voted for President Joe Biden."
Where Did All The Bellwether Counties Go?
Many counties used to vote for every presidential winner. What's changed?fivethirtyeight.com
Let that sink in.... for the past forty years 19 counties have voted for the winner every single time... It just so happens in 2020, almost all of them voted for the loser.
Is it really that hard to believe that people cheated in order to "save democracy" ?
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based on the math however, taking 168 million and cutting it in half does explain why Biden got more votes that election. However, for the non-Trump fans, there was a factor of provocation to counter the voter apathy that was setting in prior.
The real failure of democracy is in comparing the number of eligible voters vs how many tend to show up.
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Telling: Deacon Steven Greydanus Goes Full Woke
- By RileyG
- One Bread, One Body - Catholic
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Lord have mercy 
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Robert F. Kennedy Jr.’s protection.
- By Leaf473
- Prayer Wall
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May God guide all of our leaders so that we may lead quiet and peaceful lives
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Pray for our newly elected president
- By actionsub
- General Politics
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Project 2025 is not the place you need to look for what to expect. P2025 is the Heritage Foundation's Christmas list. They put some version of this out every election cycle and have done so since Reagan was in office.
Where you really should look is a much shorter manifesto put out by the America First Policy Institute,
The America First Agenda | America’s Future is America First!
America deserves a better and brighter future. American citizens need policies that put them first instead of policies that stand in their way. The good news is that the America First Policy Institute is pushing back and building a bright American tomorrow, now.
agenda.americafirstpolicy.com
and a website called "Agenda 47"
that was posted by the Trump campaign after P2025 became such a talking point. Compare the two and you'll find they're roughly identical. This would appear to be what the new Administration's priorities would be.
You can thank me later for saving you reading 900+ pages of REALLY BORING POLICY WONK language. All Project 2025 is good for is relieving insomnia.
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This isnt normal....
- By Oompa Loompa
- News & Current Events (Articles Required)
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What about them?And the Yankees; don't forget the Yankees.
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Pope Francis appoints new bishop of the Byzantine Catholic Eparchy in Arizona
- By RileyG
- One Bread, One Body - Catholic
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Praying the eastern Catholic Churches have many more vocations to the priesthood and religious life, and for the Church as a whole 
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A priest responds to the US election: Three priorities for the Church
- By Michie
- One Bread, One Body - Catholic
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The re-election of President Donald Trump held many surprises to pollsters, including that 56% of Catholic voters supported Trump, while only 41% supported Harris. According to the Washington Post, 52% of Catholics supported President Joe Biden in the 2020 election, compared to 47% for President Trump. This is a notable shift, and as Catholics, we shouldn’t just wonder “why” it happened; we should consider what this trend is revealing about the needs of our people and how the Church can better engage our culture.
This generation is searching for something they aren’t finding in the broader culture. In an era where masculinity is often criticized or misunderstood, young men are looking for models of strength and purpose. Many were drawn to Donald Trump’s platform for his message of confidence and boldness. And while the Church’s vision of masculinity differs from political displays of power, it’s clear that young men are hungry for strong leadership — and this is a need we should take seriously.
As a Church, we have an opportunity and a responsibility to guide young men toward a vision of masculinity that is rooted in virtue and sacrifice. The saints, virtuous fathers, and selfless leaders in our history have shown us what it means to be men who image Christ. We need to model this for our young men, giving them examples that they can look up to, not only as followers but as leaders called to defend and protect their families, their faith and their parish communities. Our youth programs and seminaries have to respond to this need by preparing men to be loving fathers, strong protectors and holy priests and religious who embrace true leadership. The search for confidence and boldness among young men is a powerful sign that the Church must step forward and nurture virtuous masculinity.
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A call for virtuous masculinity
One of the most visible trends in this election has been the support Trump garnered from young men. Men between the ages of 18 and 29 turned to Trump decisively this election. This demographic voted by a 15% margin for Joe Biden in 2020. In 2024, young men shifted 30 percentage points to the right, going for Trump by a margin of 16%, according to the Wall Street Journal.This generation is searching for something they aren’t finding in the broader culture. In an era where masculinity is often criticized or misunderstood, young men are looking for models of strength and purpose. Many were drawn to Donald Trump’s platform for his message of confidence and boldness. And while the Church’s vision of masculinity differs from political displays of power, it’s clear that young men are hungry for strong leadership — and this is a need we should take seriously.
As a Church, we have an opportunity and a responsibility to guide young men toward a vision of masculinity that is rooted in virtue and sacrifice. The saints, virtuous fathers, and selfless leaders in our history have shown us what it means to be men who image Christ. We need to model this for our young men, giving them examples that they can look up to, not only as followers but as leaders called to defend and protect their families, their faith and their parish communities. Our youth programs and seminaries have to respond to this need by preparing men to be loving fathers, strong protectors and holy priests and religious who embrace true leadership. The search for confidence and boldness among young men is a powerful sign that the Church must step forward and nurture virtuous masculinity.
Refocusing the pro-life movement
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A priest responds to the US election: Three priorities for the Church
What does the decision of a majority of Catholic voters to support Donald Trump reveal about how the Church should engage our culture?
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Catholic group urges Biden to commute federal death sentences before Trump takes office
- By Michie
- OBOB General Politics Forum
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A prominent Catholic anti-death penalty group is urging outgoing President Joe Biden to commute the sentences of the 40 people currently on federal death row in anticipation of the second term of President-elect Donald Trump, who strongly favors capital punishment.
Catholic Mobilizing Network (CMN), an advocacy group founded in 2009, said in a statement posted Nov. 6 that the federal death penalty is a “broken” system that “does not deter crime or make communities safer.”
In light of the upcoming jubilee year in the Catholic Church — a special holy year of grace and pilgrimage, emphasizing God’s mercy, that takes place every quarter-century — Krisanne Vaillancourt Murphy, CMN’s executive director, noted that Pope Francis has emphasized forgiveness and an end to the death penalty.
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Catholic Mobilizing Network (CMN), an advocacy group founded in 2009, said in a statement posted Nov. 6 that the federal death penalty is a “broken” system that “does not deter crime or make communities safer.”
In light of the upcoming jubilee year in the Catholic Church — a special holy year of grace and pilgrimage, emphasizing God’s mercy, that takes place every quarter-century — Krisanne Vaillancourt Murphy, CMN’s executive director, noted that Pope Francis has emphasized forgiveness and an end to the death penalty.
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Catholic group urges Biden to commute federal death sentences
Catholic Mobilizing Network said in a Nov. 6 statement that the federal death penalty is a “broken” system that “does not deter crime or make communities safer.”
www.catholicnewsagency.com
