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‘You Catholics Are Divided, Too!’
- By fide
- One Bread, One Body - Catholic
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Maybe this essay would win a debate between an articulate canon law expert with Master's level theology and morality and liturgy, and a correspondingly similarly armed non-Catholic; maybe not. I am saddened by such legal, rational, discursive (in the philosophical/archaic sense of the word) arguments over any or all of the divisive symptoms of division that bring such deep grief to the faithful today. The sickness is much simpler and deeper than such prescriptions can heal. "Church" is found in the supernatural realm.*Permission to post full text*
There's an important difference between Catholic 'disunity' and thousands of Protestant denominations.
“You Catholics are divided, too!”
It’s a common objection from Protestants when confronted with a certain Catholic critique that Protestantism, in its emphasis on the individual’s ability to properly interpret Scripture for himself, and its fundamental opposition to any kind of magisterial authority, necessarily results in an ever-increasing diversity of ecclesial communities and theologies. Yes, the Protestant apologist acknowledges, there are Lutherans, Presbyterians, Anglicans, Wesleyans, Baptists, and a wide assortment of other branches and sub-branches of Protestantism. But self-identifying Catholics disagree about abortion, contraception, homosexuality, female ordination, and even whether Pope Francis is a legitimate pope!
Not so fast. As I explain in my book The Obscurity of Scripture, relying on the excellent work of Catholic philosopher (and former Protestant seminarian) Bryan Cross, we need to first understand what the Church means by disagreements of faith and disagreements not of faith. Disagreements of faith are concerned with what has been divinely revealed either in Scripture or Tradition. The Catholic Church, either by solemn judgment or by the ordinary and universal Magisterium, has promulgated teachings from Scripture or Tradition that must be believed because:
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‘You Catholics Are Divided, Too!’
Protestants consider this the ultimate argument against Catholics who notice the extreme disunity of Protestantism. But here's why the rejoinder fails.www.catholic.com
Jesus was explicit in the first step, speaking with Jews who had believed in Him:
More than "believing" was needed: remaining - dwelling - continuing in Him - finding one's 24-7-365 home in Him is. Jesus came to make disciples who could make disciples.
Who and where are the true believers and disciples of Jesus Christ? Jesus was even more specific. His Church of His disciples can and will be known by "all men:"
If anyone thinks "it's not that simple," I'd suggest it's not Jesus who is confused: we are.
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Trump holding off on tariffs after Colombia agrees to accept deported migrants on military planes, White House says
- By RDKirk
- General Politics
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We weren't planning on growing any coffee anyway.Washington — President Trump will hold off on imposing steep tariffs on Colombia after the country's government agreed to accept deported migrants being returned on military planes, the White House said Sunday night.
Mr. Trump earlier on Sunday vowed swift and punishing retaliation after the Colombian government over the weekend blocked the arrival of deportation flightsfrom the U.S., objecting to the Trump administration's efforts to use military planes to deport migrants.
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Trump holding off on tariffs after Colombia agrees to accept deported migrants on military planes, White House says
Earlier Sunday, Colombian President Gustavo Petro said he rejected deportation flights because the deportees were being transported in military aircraft.www.cbsnews.com
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Christian YouTuber Recommendations?
- By RileyG
- The Junk Drawer
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Let your loins be girded about, and your lights burning - Luke 12:35 Promoting the Spiritual E (Warmth as in love) /c2 (Light as in Faith, Hope, and Charity)... An everlovin' shiner of light in dark places! Note that I do not make money off these videos. Schambach Ministries is kind enough to...www.youtube.com
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'Trump Effect' credited for 74% plunge in migrant encounters at southern border: report
- By Michie
- General Politics
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Migrant encounters at the United States southwest border have reportedly fallen by 74% since the Republican President Donald Trump took office last month.
Within the first 15 days of Trump taking office for the second time, the southwest border saw a total of 12,500 migrant encounters in total, averaging around 833 each day, according to new U.S. Department of Homeland Security data obtained by NewsNation. DHS sources have referred to the decline as "The Trump Effect."
"That's lower than the president's first-week average, 1,050," the outlet reported. "In the past eight days alone, encounter averages have sunk further to 650 daily."
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Within the first 15 days of Trump taking office for the second time, the southwest border saw a total of 12,500 migrant encounters in total, averaging around 833 each day, according to new U.S. Department of Homeland Security data obtained by NewsNation. DHS sources have referred to the decline as "The Trump Effect."
"That's lower than the president's first-week average, 1,050," the outlet reported. "In the past eight days alone, encounter averages have sunk further to 650 daily."
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'Trump Effect' credited for 74% plunge in migrant encounters at southern border: report
As President Donald Trump s administration continues to crack down on illegal immigration, officials have reported that migrant encounters at the southwest border have fallen by 74 since the
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Standing firm after husband murdered. Mob attacks Pastor’s home. Pastor dies in custody.
- By LoricaLady
- Persecuted Christians
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- Victorie and her husband had become followers of Christ, but their families and most of the people in their village follow traditional Voodoo practices. Victorie's in-laws were not happy that the young couple had become Christians. They threatened them and tried to scare them into converting back to pagan beliefs. "We would see blood around the house," Victorie said. One day her husband's parents threatened her. "They told me, ‘If anything happens to our son, it is your fault.'" As Victorie and her husband were returning home from a visit to his family one night, he suddenly collapsed and died shortly afterwards. Read More.
Feb. 06, 2025 | Bangladesh
Pastor's Mob-Wrecked Home Cultivates Christian Unity
[3] prayers in [1] nation have been posted for Pastor Dulal.
Pastor Dulal had received threats because of his Christian witness in his village. But when political upheaval in the summer of 2024 left the area without police or army protection, Muslim extremists took the opportunity to fulfill those threats. Attackers destroyed his home, gouging large holes in the walls and ripping out windows and doors while carrying away anything of value. Dulal said he was thankful that he and his family were not home at the time because he believes the attackers would have killed them. Read More.Feb. 06, 2025 | Vietnam
Imprisoned Pastor Dies in Custody
[4] prayers in [1] nation have been posted for Xa and family.
Pastor Diem and his wife, Xa, lived in a majority-Christian community, so they did not face persecution locally. When Diem would travel beyond the village for ministry, however, he was always under scrutiny. On Jan. 5, 2018, police and security officials surrounded the couple's house and announced Diem's arrest on suspicion of anti-government activities. Months of secret court proceedings ended with a 16-year prison sentence for Diem. On Dec. 14, 2022, Diem was permitted to call home and wish his family a merry Christmas. It was the last time Xa heard his voice. Read More.
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How Trump’s Executive Orders Stack Up Against Church Teaching
- By Michie
- One Bread, One Body - Catholic
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In a flurry of executive actions, the president has made moves on everything from gender ideology to the death penalty, with mixed results from the perspective of the Church’s social doctrine.
President Donald Trump has wasted no time in putting his campaign promises into action — with mixed results from a Catholic perspective
Since his inauguration on Jan. 20, Trump has signed off on a flurry of executive orders, making big changes on everything from abortion funding to capital punishment, parental choice in education to care for creation.
As of Feb. 5, the Republican has issued more than 50 presidential decrees, according to the White House’s website. That figure is nearly a quarter of the 220 executive orders he approved during his entire first four-year presidential term and is the most signed by a president in his first 100 days in office in 40 years, according to NBC News.
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President Donald Trump has wasted no time in putting his campaign promises into action — with mixed results from a Catholic perspective
Since his inauguration on Jan. 20, Trump has signed off on a flurry of executive orders, making big changes on everything from abortion funding to capital punishment, parental choice in education to care for creation.
As of Feb. 5, the Republican has issued more than 50 presidential decrees, according to the White House’s website. That figure is nearly a quarter of the 220 executive orders he approved during his entire first four-year presidential term and is the most signed by a president in his first 100 days in office in 40 years, according to NBC News.
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How Trump’s Executive Orders Stack Up Against Church Teaching
In a flurry of executive actions, the president has made moves on everything from gender ideology to the death penalty, with mixed results from the perspective of the Church’s social doctrine.
Pope Francis calls potential U.S. deportation plans ‘a disgrace’
- By jamiec
- One Bread, One Body - Catholic
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Illegals have no place in the country to which they are immigrants. They are criminals, not Christlike, so the much-abused passage St Matthew 25.31-46 does not apply. The should be expelled from all countries where they are illegal immigrants, not just from the USA. Pres. Trump is to be praised for setting a good example to the leaders of other countries with similar problems.Pope Francis criticized potential plans for mass deportations in the United States under President-elect Donald Trump during a wide-ranging Italian television interview on Sunday.
“If this is true it is a disgrace because it makes the poor unfortunate who have nothing pay the price of imbalance. This is not how things are solved,” the pope said on Italian broadcaster Nove’s “Che Tempo Che Fa” program on Jan. 19, speaking about plans to deport immigrants who are in the U.S. illegally.
The U.S. bishops said in November they would speak out forcefully if Trump does advance the proposal in a way that undermines human dignity.
There are an estimated 11.7 million undocumented immigrants in the U.S., according to July 2023 statistics from the Center for Migration Studies.
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Pope Francis: U.S. deportation plans ‘a disgrace’
“If this is true it is a disgrace because it makes the poor unfortunate who have nothing pay the price of imbalance. This is not how things are solved,” the pope said on Italian TV.www.catholicnewsagency.com
If he were the "Nazi" some people's fantasies say he is, he would be killing migrants, by the thousands; not expelling them. He would also be passing legislation to outlaw all opposition parties, and all other opposition.
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