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Fatherhood Isn’t Rocket Science, Elon — And You Can’t Outsource It

That's fair. To be honest, I don't like him that much. There's something about him that makes me uneasy. Maybe I'm being too judgmental? I dunno.
It's important to seek to discern rightly; "judging" is something else entirely. It is very dangerous to "judge" another. Whenever we are tempted to judge (and it is a temptation, and one that we must conquer), we ought to ask ourselves, and then God, "Who am I, Lord, to judge another man?"
Related to that thought, I think I'm remembering correctly when I say, Teresa of Avila said and wrote that we must never leave the "Room of Self-Knowledge." Most of us, sadly, have never entered that room of horrors. If by grace He has led us there, then we know the horrors to be seen there and we are convicted even more deeply for ever seeking to escape it to presume to hide ourselves from ourselves, and judge another.
Related also is understanding the nature of the love which we are commanded to live: it is the very love by which Jesus - and the full Holy Trinity - loved and loves all human persons of His own creation, in His own image. We were created to love as He loves, thus He made it possible by creating us in His image. A likeness exists, a place in us exists within our nature to love as He loves; thus His New Commandment is right and righteous. And possible, by His grace, and in His mercy.
Related and helpful, I believe, also is His letter to Ephesus, in the Book of Revelation:
Rev 2:1 "To the angel of the church in Ephesus write: 'The words of him who holds the seven stars in his right hand, who walks among the seven golden lampstands.
Rev 2:2 "'I know your works, your toil and your patient endurance, and how you cannot bear evil men but have tested those who call themselves apostles but are not, and found them to be false;
Rev 2:3 I know you are enduring patiently and bearing up for my name's sake, and you have not grown weary.
Rev 2:4 But I have this against you, that you have abandoned the love you had at first.
Rev 2:5 Remember then from what you have fallen, repent and do the works you did at first. If not, I will come to you and remove your lampstand from its place, unless you repent.
Rev 2:6 Yet this you have, you hate the works of the Nicolaitans, which I also hate.
Rev 2:7 He who has an ear, let him hear what the Spirit says to the churches. To him who conquers I will grant to eat of the tree of life, which is in the paradise of God.'
Those are some things to think about, Riley - a journey that I continue on, a journey that He mercifully is willing to help us on.
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Middle school teacher facing charges of possessing 1,000 images, videos of child porn, including rape of toddler

A man who most recently worked as a math teacher at a public middle school in Manhattan has been arrested and charged with two counts of possession of child pornography after authorities caught him with at least 1,000 images or videos of child pornography, including a male toddler and pre-pubescent boys being raped and exploited in other ways by adult men.

The teacher, identified as 41-year-old Ross Lanvin, most recently taught math at MS 256 Lafayette Academy on Manhattan’s Upper East Side, sources told the New York Post. He was employed by the New York City Department of Education from about 2006 through 2013, and again in 2016, according to a complaint filed against him by the United States Attorney for the Southern District of New York.

“As alleged, Ross Lanvin, who had close contact with students as a teacher at a public school in Manhattan, possessed hundreds of images and videos of child pornography. Together with our partners at the NYPD and Office of the Special Commissioner of Investigations for the NYC School District, we will continue to work to root out those who possess child pornography, especially when those individuals work in positions that give them access to children—some of the most vulnerable members of our community,” Acting U.S. Attorney Matthew Podolsky said in a statement.

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It breaks your heart reading about such trash.
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30 pieces of silver

The price of a female bondservant.

The price of a male bondservant is 50. But Jesus was not sold for 50.

He was sold for 30, because he was taking somebody else's place.
There is a book called NUMBERS in SCRIPTURE , written in 1837-1913 , by E W Bullinger !1

The and says that the number 30 breakdown to #3 and # 10 .


The number 3 breaks down to RESURRECTION ,

The # 10 signifies the perfection of divine order .

He ends at 666 !

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Wife with disability needs a long term job

Final update: False alarm. Due to insufficient information being given on where to get her work credentials, my wife tried contact her new employer but was unable to. When she reached out to her new boss, she was met with silence. This was just a cheap shot to get our hopes up. Guess this is just his way.
Lord have mercy! I’m sorry to hear that! May God help her find a job ASAP.
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Why can’t non-Catholics receive Communion?

You forgot one of the most important reasons, that the Eucharist is withheld from those not in fellowship out of Christian love, to protect them. The Bible cautions that those who receive in an unworthy manner, not discerning the body and the blood of Christ God's judgement upon themselves, even damnation and may even become sick and die.

As a confessional Lutheran, we practice closed communion also and believe in the presence of the very body and blood in the sacrament. Such is why our practice aligns with the Catholic Church and the Orthodox Church regarding the reception of the Eucharist.
Absolutely! Someone receiving the Eucharist unworthily can harm their own soul!
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We are Kings and Priests

God didn't want Israel to have a king. He wanted them to be kings and priests themselves. How wonderful is our God? Who needs politics when you're a king in Jesus kingdom?

1 Peter 2:9 But you are a chosen race, a royal priesthood, a holy nation, a people for his own possession, that you may proclaim the excellencies of him who called you out of darkness into his marvelous light.

Revelation 3:21 The one who conquers, I will grant him to sit with me on my throne, as I also conquered and sat down with my Father on his throne.

Revelation 1:5 and from Jesus Christ, the faithful witness, the firstborn from the dead, and the ruler over the kings of the earth.
To Him who [a]loved us and washed us from our sins in His own blood, 6 and has made us kings and priests to His God and Father, to Him be glory and dominion forever and ever. Amen.
But the context of 1 Peter 2:9 is Israel !!

So is Rev 1:6 and will be kings and priest !!

Also be kings and priests , in Matt 19:28 !!

The Body of Christ will never be kings and priests !!

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Zelensky met with Democrats before meeting with Trump.

No, as I’ve already pointed out, the article did quote Murphy, however, the quote didn’t support the author’s description, and you incorrectly interpreted the description as a direct quote.


Arguing about whether or not Murphy lied is an odd way to make that point.

Either way, nobody said the quote was from you. Your OP didn’t even include any comments of yours - all you posted was a link.
I'm not saying Murphy lied, not sure where you got that. Posting the link is required in this forum.

Sorry it upsets you! :D
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Did Paul contradict Judges Four?

As a side note: The same pastor drove other people out of the church, for different reasons. Not one person came into the church as a result of his stand in favor of homosexual unions. It is a very small church, which cannot afford to lose members.

This is what happens when Moravian Pietism meets the Social Gospel, Liberation Theology, Postmodern Theology and Queer Theology.

Unfortunately there is not yet a confessing church for Moravians - since the Orthodox Church of the Czech Lands and Slovakia venerates St. Jan Hus and St. Jerome of Prague as martyrs, I think an ideal solution would be if they were to set up a Western Rite Vicarate in partnership with ROCOR or AOCNA which already have Western Rite vicarates in the US. Some aspects or Moravian worship could be preserved, particularly those that aligned with the Utraquist movement as opposed to the more radical Taborite faction or the more extreme and unusual ideas of Count von Zinzendorf, who was a great humanitarian and community leader worthy of veneration for saving the Moravians of Continental Europe from certain death, but his theology was less well developed in my opinion.
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Tiny Jesus figurines left in U.S. Capitol following TikTok trend

In recent days, congressional staff working in the U.S. Capitol have reported seeing something unusual in the normally staid grand corridors and offices where Congress conducts its business: Tiny Jesus figurines are popping up everywhere.

Congressional aides have shared images of the little statues on X after spotting them around the Capitol. One was found perched on a marble column in Statuary Hall, another was seen propped up on a pillar directly outside the doors of the Speaker of House’s office.

Some are a bit more hidden, including a diminutive Jesus placed high on a small ledge and one tucked next to a frame on the wall. Another tiny figurine was even discovered inside a lawmaker’s office in the Cannon House Office Building.

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Impoundment of Funds

Jim,
I don’t know where you got any of that from. Here are a few facts about international aid programs carried out the USAID.

“ In April 2022, as part of USDA’s and U.S. Agency for International Development’s global food insecurity response, the fund was drawn down by the full balance of $282 million in order to procure U.S. food commodities to bolster existing emergency food operations in six countries facing severe food insecurity – Ethiopia, Kenya, Somalia, Sudan, South Sudan and Yemen.”

“The program was established in 2018 and authorizes annual appropriations of $5 million. In fiscal year 2020, Texas A&M and Catholic Relief Services received funding for projects in Ghana and Uganda, respectively.”

Is Catholic Relief Services part of this “corruption” that you point to?

On the Biotechnology and Agricultural Trade Program:
“The program lapsed in 2007 and was re-authorized $2 million annually under the 2018 farm bill until fiscal year 2023.”

This means that, as President, Donald Trump signed the bill to reauthorize this program.

Here is what the Federation of Farm Bureaus thinks about international aid programs.

“Trade and international aid programs in the Farm Bill provide a critical link to international markets, deliver critical humanitarian support and help develop foreign countries to become better partners and customers.”

“A study released in 2022, commissioned by USDA's FAS as required by Congress ... showed that on an annual basis between 2002 and 2019 ag export revenue increased by an average of $9.6 billion because of MAP and FMD program activities. At the farm level, the MAP and FMD programs led to an annual increase in farm cash receipts of $12.2 billion (3.4%) and an annual increase of $3.1 billion in net cash farm income.”

Source

https://www.fb.org/market-intel/revisiting-agricultural-trade-and-food-assistance-programs-in-the-farm-bill
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European leaders flamed for 'creepy' pro-Zelenskyy posts that read exactly the same

What I want to know is this. Just how do those European leaders expect Ukraine to defeat Russia? No matter how many weapons and ammunition that is sent to Ukraine, that nation is simply not strong enough to cause a military end to this war against Russia.
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Sound the Alarm by Disciple

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"Sound The Alarm"

I get the feeling that
I'm not the only one
Left in the aftermath
Waiting to see the sun

I've bolted every door
Replaced my bandages
Something beneath the floor
Keeps playing with my head

Is there anyone out there?
Someone getting the message?
Are you waiting for rescue?
Have you loaded your weapon?

I'm trying to sound the alarm
I'm trying to sound the alarm
I'm trying to sound the alarm
I'm trying to sound the alarm
I'm trying-
Can you hear it?

This plague of ignorance
Has eaten through my bones
I'll tell you all my sins
Don't let me die alone

All I see is suffering
Spreading out and poisoning my soul
If I make it out alive
You'll be the only one who knows

Is there anyone out there?
Someone getting the message?
Are you keeping a secret?
Are you praying to heaven?

Is there anyone out there?
What'd you hear in the basement?
Does it wanna destroy you?
Are you ready to face it?

I'm trying to sound the alarm
I'm trying to sound the alarm
I'm trying to sound the alarm
I'm trying to sound the alarm
I'm trying-
Can you hear it?

Can you hear it?

Come on, try to take me, I'm ready
I'm ready, I'm ready
Come on, try to take me, I'm ready
I'm ready, I'm ready
Come on, try to take me, I'm ready
I'm ready, I'm ready
Come on, try to take me, I'm ready
I'm ready, I'm ready

Well it's come for me but I'm taking it head on

Is there anyone out there?
Are you getting the message?
Something's coming to get you
Are you ready to face it?

I'm trying to sound the alarm now

Well it's come for me but I'm taking it head on

Is there anyone out there?

William Craig conflated series with sequence

William Lane Craig wrote:

Is it possible to add a new integer to the series of natural numbers? Of course not, for the natural number series is determinate and complete.
Bold emphases added.

Mathematically, a series is the sum of the terms of a sequence. The natural number series diverges to infinity. This means that as you add more terms, the sum grows larger and larger without approaching any finite limit. I have no idea what he means by "the natural number series is complete".

Further, when I first read the above question, I experienced anterior cingulate cortex dissonance. His question made no sense to me.

If you use math terminology, it is better to stick to the technical definitions.

Now, the question becomes:

Is it possible to insert a new integer into the sequence of natural numbers?
Yes, if the sequence is finite. A sequence is not a set.

But I don't think that's what Craig had in mind.

Let i1 be a natural number. Is it possible to append i1 to the infinite sequence of all natural numbers, such that i1 has not appeared before?

No, by definition.

Perhaps, that wasn't what Craig had in mind either.

Finally, is it possible to add (i.e., adjoin) a new natural number to the set of all natural numbers, thereby changing its cardinality?

No. I think Craig also had trouble distinguishing different orders of infinities.

Craig conflated the math concepts of series with sequence—and probably with the concept of set too. By misusing terminology, Craig risked confusing readers and weakening the rigor of his reasoning.

Are we saved, or being saved?

"18 For the message of the cross is foolishness to those who are perishing, but to us who are being saved it is the power of God." 1 Corinthians 1:18

Any comments on this one? It was the lesson in my local church today. I never thought of it quite like this before. I am not saved yet, but I believe and confess, so I am in the process of being saved. I am intrigued...
We have been saved from the penalty of our sin (Ephesians 2:5), we are belong saved from continuing to live in sin (Philippians 2:12), and we will be saved from God’s wrath on the day of the Lord (Romans 5:9-10). Our salvation from sin would be incomplete if we were only saved from the penalty of our sin while our lives continued to be directed at being doers of sin, so there must be an aspect of our gift of salvation from sin the we are experiencing in the present by directing our lives towards being a doer of God’s law. In Titus 2:11-13, our salvation is described as being trained by grace to do what is godly, righteous, and good, and to renounce doing what is ungodly, so we are not required to have first done those works in order to earn our salvation as the result and we are not required to do those works as the result of having first been saved, but rather God graciously teaching us to be doer of those works is the aspect of His gift of salvation that we are experiencing in the present. In Titus 2:14, Jesus did not just give himself to pay the penalty for our sins, but also to purify for himself a people of his own possession who are zealous for doing good works.
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Wide is the gate, and broad is the way, that leads to destruction, and many there be which go in thereat...

The Greek word for 'narrow' in this text is the word thlibo which also means persecution
It may, in some other context, but Jesus is talking about two ways of life...righteous and unrighteous.
Destruction and life.
Matt 7:13-14..."Enter ye in at the strait gate: for wide is the gate, and broad is the way, that leadeth to destruction, and many there be which go in thereat:
(14) Because strait is the gate, and narrow is the way, which leadeth unto life, and few there be that find it."
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Terror attack in Haifa, Israel leaves 1 dead, 4 wounded

Israeli PM Netanyahu condemns 'horrific terrorist attack in Haifa'​


A stabbing attack left one person dead and four others wounded in Haifa, Israel, on Monday.

Police said they were treating the stabbing, which took place in a central transit hub, as a militant attack. A security guard and a civilian killed the attacker, who police said was an Arab citizen of Israel who had recently returned to Israel after some time abroad.

"My wife Sara and I extend our deepest condolences to the family of the victim of the horrific terrorist attack in Haifa, and we send our wishes for a speedy recovery to the injured," Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu said in a statement.

"We will continue to fight those who seek to harm us – wherever they are – and we will defeat them," he added.

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Feds bust massive alleged Guatemalan human smuggling ring operating out of California

Operation ringleader is accused of moving 20K illegal immigrants into the US from Guatemala for up to $18K per person​

Federal agents arrested two Guatemalan men on Friday accused of operating one of the largest human smuggling operations in the United States.

The two were picked up near downtown Los Angeles and are accused of moving 20,000 illegal immigrantsinto the U.S. from Guatemala since 2019.

Eduardo Domingo Renoj-Matul and Cristobal Mejia-Chaj each appeared in federal court hours after their arrests, and a judge ordered each held without bond. If convicted, they could each face the death penalty.

"These smuggling organizations have no regard for human life and their conduct kills," said acting U.S. Attorney Joseph McNally. "The indictment and arrests here have dismantled one of the country’s largest and most dangerous smuggling organizations. This work saves lives, and the members of the organization will now face significant consequences."

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