Fantine said:

By their shockingly misguided votes November 5, you mean?
Well of course they did. They failed me, too. They failed themselves.
But that means we just lie down and let the steamroller crush us?

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I tell you, the steamroller option is starting to sound good to mme. Feet first, I want to be able to savor the event.

Glory to God!

What does any of this have to do with biblical hemunutics?

Lady Bug said:

I think I'm just not good at it either. I also don't want to need to take an anti-nausea drug in order to not feel nauseous from fasting.

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If there are health issues, you are not under any fasting obligations.

You completely own this 3D photo of the proven 2700 year old eyewitness picture of the actual siege of Lachish as recorded in Isaiah 36:1-2 and 2 Chronicles 32:9 -
9 After this, Sennacherib king of Assyria, who was besieging Lachish with all his forces, sent his servants to Jerusalem to Hezekiah king of Judah and to all the people of Judah who were in Jerusalem, saying,
The siege of Lachish - Download Free 3D model by danielpett
Free to download. You can drag-flip the photo over for a clearer pic on the backside.
Thanks to Daniel Pett for putting this pic in public domain! The Lord Jesus no doubt moved your heart !
My evangelical pastor friend said even 5 year olds will benefit from this invaluable pic that simply proves that the Bible is true instantly.

Isaiah 37 Miracle Proven by Stone Artifacts in London Says Renowned Professor Alan Millard. Texas high schooler cries because she's told Bible is Myth

True Pic:Baby Jesus's dedication Temple's Menorah. The 2000 year-old Spoils from the Temple frieze(Arch of Titus) proves that Jesus is God by....

Thank you so much our most dearest Father in heaven for sending your most beloved Jesus-God the Son- to die for me and all those who believe in you!

Thank you most dear Lord Jesus for suffering so. so very much and dying on your Cross to save all our Father's children!

Thank you most dear Holy Spirit for everything you do for the Church!
We love you truly and praise you Father, Son and Spirit forevermore!

My take-away is that persistent pride makes us unreceptive to His Grace.

Maori Aussie said:

And possibly Mary and Martha, sisters of Lazarus, as their village Bethany was less than two miles from Jerusalem.

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I hope you don't mind me adding some detail. This Paschal season, I am struck by the significance of the woman who anointed the body of Jesus with very expensive essence of nard at Bethany, five days before Jesus is crucified.
John's Gospel identifies that woman as Mary, sister of Lazurus. Bible Gateway passage: John 12 - New International Version
I am stuck by verse 7 "Jesus replied. “It was intended that she should save this perfume for the day of my burial."
My deduction is that Mary, sister of Lazurus understood much better what was going to happen, than the Twelve.
My deduction is that this Mary was prepared, and may have not been able to watch the events as a spectator...
My humble observation.

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The ancient Hebrew prophet Jeremiah had declared that in the future the LORD would establish a *New Covenant with the house of Israel and the house of Judah.

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So do you believe this prophecy is a latter "New Covenant" (yet to come) than the "New Covenant"of Messiah Yeshua (Luke 22:19-20 and 1 Corinthians 11:24-25)?

Orthodox Judaism's [denying Yeshua as LORD] understanding on their *New Covenant with the house of Israel and Judah, as prophesied by Jeremiah and Zechariah will put to shame man's religious christendom with its denominational disunity and ongoing theological religious debating.


Is not the above verse a reference to when "the house of Israel and Judah" are partakers of a better Covenant as prophesied by Jeremiah, Zechariah, Ezekiel, but not the same as recorded in the B'rit Chadashah (NT) ...


Ezekiel 36:26-27 is speaking of a future time yet to come when the Lord will rule with an iron scepter from Ezekiel's Temple with the 2nd Coming of Yeshua Hamashiach to establish His Kingdom on earth.


Is this not the same *New Covenant that Christendom has turned into a religion instead of an intimate relationship in which "Go and Sin No More" and "Stop Your Sinning Or Something Worse May Happen"' is not only expected, but possible. Apparently it was possible before Shavuot (Pentecost) to stop sinning. Now even moreso when truly, truly a new "born gain" (Titus 3:5) creation with the Holy Spirit as one's abiding counselor.

Will the New Covenant finally be realized by Christian Jews (Ezekiel 36:26-27); while way too many gentiles don't believe its possible to renew their minds and Stop Sinning.

Arkansas has become the latest state to require Ten Commandments displays in public school classrooms as debate about the historic document's presence in schools continues.

Arkansas’ Republican Gov. Sarah Huckabee Sanders signed Senate Bill 433into law Monday, one of several measuresshe approved. Sanders’ approval of the legislation follows its passage by the Republican-controlled Arkansas Senate in a 27-4 vote and the Republican-controlled Arkansas House of Representatives in a 71-20 vote.

The vote in the Senate fell along party lines, with all support for the measure coming from Republicans and all opposition coming from Democrats. In the House, two Republicans sided with Democrats in opposing the legislation.

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*You are in the Catholic forum*

Did Jesus say things that aren’t in the Bible?

In this episode of The Catholic Talk Show, Ryan Scheel & Ryan Dellacrosse explore the unwritten and lost sayings of Jesus known as the Agrapha (ἄγραφον) and whether or not they are the authentic words of Christ.

1. Not Everything Jesus Said Was Written in Scripture
Some of Jesus’ words were known by oral tradition and cited later by the Apostles. Scheel says the Bible acknowledges this in John 21:25! For example, Acts 20:35 quotes Paul recalling Him saying “It is more blessed to give than to receive” — a familiar phrase, yet not recorded directly in the Gospels. This proves early Christians preserved sayings of Christ outside written texts.

2. Jesus Was Quoted in Other Writings
The early Church relied on oral tradition to spread Jesus’ teachings, especially before the New Testament was compiled. “For 300 years, there was no Bible as we know it—there were writings everywhere, and people were talking about what Jesus really said,” Scheel explains. Papias, a 2nd-century bishop who we know had direct contact with the disciples, recorded a prophecy Jesus spoke about the abundance of God’s Kingdom: “The day will come when vines shall grow, each having ten thousand branches, and on every cluster, ten thousand grapes.”

3. Lost Sayings Could Change Your Spiritual Life
The Church has always valued sacred scripture and tradition in preserving the full deposit of faith. For example, Scheel says the Church Father Origen recorded a powerful saying of Jesus about remaining close to Him and the trials that come with discipleship: “He who is near me is near the fire, but he who is far from me is far from the Kingdom.” Pope Benedict XVI once quoted this in a homily, showing that these early traditions continue to impact us today.

The guys say that these unwritten sayings reveal deep truths about faith, mercy and the Kingdom of God—truths that can inspire and challenge you!

Watch this episode below

jacks said:

I wonder if Plato got his idea from Greek mythology and The River of Forgetfulness. Lethe

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I think so. It was Plato's worldview. His concept of the preexisting soul was influenced by Greek mythology, particularly ideas related to the afterlife, reincarnation, and the River Lethe (Forgetfulness). While Plato developed his philosophical ideas about the soul more systematically and metaphysically, many of these concepts were already present in Greek mythological traditions.

Spiritual Jew said:

I've had enough, Douggg. No matter what I show you, you will try to find some way around it. I'm done. Thanks for the discussion.

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Okay, we can agree to disagree.

My AI engine says the following was the "loophole".

Kurt Gödel's concerns about a potential loophole in the U.S. Constitution were primarily centered around the process of amending the Constitution itself. He believed that the amendment process could be manipulated in such a way that it might allow for the establishment of a dictatorship. Specifically, he pointed to the fact that if a majority in Congress and the states agreed, they could theoretically amend the Constitution to remove checks and balances or to concentrate power in a way that could undermine democratic governance.

okay said:

I grew up in Eastern Washington and had a friend living in Coeur d'Alene in the mid-1980s. I recall receiving a long letter she wrote because she was trapped in her house - the white supremacists were marching in town again... It apparently was not an unusual event. That would be one of the last places I would want to live.

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Standpoint is much better.

This time before we celebrate Jesus’ resurrection on Easter is a special time in the Church. So often, we get distracted by holiday plans and preparation that we let the week go by without reflecting on the magnitude of what really happened 2,000 years ago. I’m going to be honest, this was a tough talk for me to write, and it might be tough for you to hear. But that’s what this week is all about. Sit in those feelings and let the events that took place have that impact on you.

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Michie said:

I love both. But they can take their opinions and shove them as far as I’m concerned. A bunch of control freaks.

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Amen. It's beyond ridiculous.

Stephen3141 said:

As this article brings out, there are a lot of strong beliefs about
autism, and some of them are not politely presented, publicly.

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My sincere apologies if I have offended you. But, for the purposes of the discussion I have pointed to a massive change in culture that has occurred simultaneous with the emergence of modern autism. I point to our physically brutal past, which many would prefer to say silent on. I do not want to go back to it. Exodus 21:17 :-<. It was always with us... We are brutal savages, intolerant of difference. It is just our weapons that change with the passing decades, not our nature. We have progressed from rocks and clubs to medications and online bullying...

In the Passion, every detail matters​

This Good Friday, we will hear St. John’s account of the Passion. The entire narrative is moving. But St. John wants one part in particular to stand out to his listeners—Jesus being pierced with a lance. He writes,

When Jesus had taken the wine, he said, “It is finished.” And bowing his head, he handed over the spirit.
Now since it was preparation day, in order that the bodies might not remain on the cross on the sabbath, for the sabbath day of that week was a solemn one, the Jews asked Pilate that their legs be broken and that they be taken down. So the soldiers came and broke the legs of the first and then of the other one who was crucified with Jesus. But when they came to Jesus and saw that he was already dead, they did not break his legs, but one soldier thrust his lance into his side, and immediately blood and water flowed out.
An eyewitness has testified, and his testimony is true; he knows that he is speaking the truth, so that you also may come to believe (19:30-35).

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essentialsaltes said:

Well, that and being good for the economy and bringing prices down.

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So many "reasons"!

May God bless him abundantly!

Lady Bug said:

Oh by the way, there's another woman who loves to create drama, but she's in Pakistan and doesn't really have power to make that drama affect us. It's unrelated to this thread though.

In a nutshell (well, I don't think I can make it short):

- She's toxic and wants to send her son over to America (we know why)
- She warns my dad not to let certain relatives come over because "they're bad."
- DISCLAIMER: She is CORRECT about them possibly being bad but she actually DOES NOT CARE because she is probably (I can't prove it but I feel I'm right) worried that any relative's sons are a "threat" to HER son coming to America. She doesn't know that I don't want any of their darned "sons."
- She HERSELF is toxic and has destroyed both her brother and sister's lives to some degree. Her brother - well, she convinced her brother's stepson (the mother was widowed) that he wasn't really that boy's father, and the boy had thought he was initially, because the mother had died before he could remember it happened. It was a deliberate attempt to impair the bond between her brother and stepson. Her sister - well, the woman sued the sister and took her house away or something, according to my dad.
- As far as I'm concerned, ALL the relatives are toxic, NOT just her.

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She seems to just be planting seeds to further her machinations. Those types are toxic.

Michie said:

No the Church does not condone it. But it seems to be deeply entrenched in their culture.

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Yup. That's what I understand as well.

tonychanyt said:

ESV, 1P 2:


Dr James White said to Steve Gregg:


That's one translation of it.


Is there an eternal decree of God relating to salvation?

This question is overly loaded and needs to be made more precise.


Gregg answered:


Gregg made a distinction between God-determined stumbling and disobedience as two distinct things here.

Let's examine the Greek:

Actually the word 'because' was not in the Greek. Instead, there were

stumble [because]
προσκόπτουσιν (proskoptousin)
Verb - Present Indicative Active - 3rd Person Plural
Strong's 4350: From pros and kopto; to strike at, i.e. Surge against; specially, to stub on, i.e. Trip up.

they disobey
ἀπειθοῦντες (apeithountes)
Verb - Present Participle Active - Nominative Masculine Plural
Strong's 544: To disobey, rebel, be disloyal, refuse conformity. From apeithes; to disbelieve.

The second verb functioned as an adverbial participle for the first verb.

Berean Literal Bible:


ὃ (ho)
Personal / Relative Pronoun - Accusative Neuter Singular
Strong's 3739: Who, which, what, that.

Grammatically, the disobedient stumbling was a singular unit.

It was wrong for Gregg to separate the two verbs as two distinct units. Certain individuals are destined to stumble disobediently in the context of accepting or rejecting Jesus.

Does this stumbling imply that they will go to hell?

I want to be extra careful when it comes to eternal condemnation. Peter's passage suggests that this is the case to some degree, but I don't think it's a universal 100% implication, as claimed by White. For one thing, the strings 'condemn' or 'hell' are no where in the chapter. See double predestination.

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They are both wrong. White is wrong in that he thinks they stumble beyond recovery. Gregg is wrong for exactly the reasons you indicated. He failed to look at the Greek text like you did here.

We need to look at other scripture to get the truth of this matter.

Romans 11:11 Again I ask: Did they stumble so as to fall beyond recovery? Not at all! Rather, because of their transgression, salvation has come to the Gentiles to make Israel envious. 12 But if their transgression means riches for the world, and their loss means riches for the Gentiles, how much greater riches will their full inclusion bring! 13 I am talking to you Gentiles. Inasmuch as I am the apostle to the Gentiles, I take pride in my ministry 14 in the hope that I may somehow arouse my own people to envy and save some of them.

We need to look at 1 Peter 2:8 in light of other scripture like this. It's not talking about someone stumbling and then falling beyond recovery and ending up in hell. No, God made the unbelieving Israelites stumble and not understand the gospel for a time so that it could go to the Gentiles which would then make the unbelieving Israelites who stumbled envious and want to be saved like the Gentiles were. Paul indicated that he wanted to lead some of those who had stumbled to salvation himself, so they clearly did not stumble beyond recovery with no hope of salvation as a Calvinist like James White believes.

Scripture teaches that God commands all people everywhere to repent (Acts 17:30). Does He command all people to repent and then cause some of them to not repent, thereby making His command pointless? Of course not. But, that is what Calvinists like James White believe.

Rather than an “artificial” intelligence, Christ’s death teaches us the authentic “intelligence of the cross,” which is the freedom to choose self-giving love in relationship with God and others, the papal preacher said at the Vatican on Good Friday.

Preaching during a two-hour Liturgy of the Lord’s Passion in St. Peter’s Basilica, Father Roberto Pasolini, OFM Cap, underlined how, “in a time like ours, so rich in new intelligences — artificial, computational, predictive — the mystery of Christ’s passion and death proposes to us another kind of intelligence: the intelligence of the cross, which does not calculate, but loves; which does not optimize, but gives itself.”

The intelligence of the cross, he continued, is not artificial “but deeply relational, because it is entirely open to God and to others. In a world where it seems to be algorithms that suggest to us what to desire, what to think, and even who to be, the cross restores to us the freedom of authentic choice, based not on efficiency but on self-giving love.”

According to custom, the preacher of the papal household writes and delivers the homily at the Vatican’s Good Friday liturgy. This year, Cardinal Claudio Gugerotti, prefect of the Dicastery for Eastern Churches, celebrated the liturgy in Pope Francis’ place as the 88-year-old pontiff continues his slow recovery from double pneumonia and other respiratory infections.

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