Anything he creates is good, but if he creates something with moral agency---which he did, angels and humans that we know of---now they have a responsibility of perfect moral obedience. And if there is present with them in the Garden of Eden, one who has already transgressed moral obedience,
The propensity to transgress had to "come from somewhere" though. Somewhere outside of the good intention God created with. Could any creature created "good" generate out of "only good" "evil"? And thus the framework I'm thinking of as to why "the absence of good" is "evil" could be an "opposite reaction" byproduct of God's creative action.
Of which why, I started looking at the duality of "light" / "darkness".
Now, obviously because God possessed the knowledge of evil; we know that "evil" "existed", at least in theory; even in the absence of any material creation.
One caution, and I know you use the word "space" because we have no other word, but it could lead to the conclusion of next steps that God is the space.
Which we can't surmise because if space existed God would have to create it.
Yeah, this is a tricky one. We tend to assume that something that exists must "take up space". An idea rooted in not knowing anything other than material existence.
But if we look at the end of the story previewed in
Is. 11 and shown if Rev 21-22, the central purpose is the destruction of evil, and the central this purpose from Gen -Rev is Christ. He does this
through Jesus redeeming men. It is such a perfect and awesome plan.
Are you familiar with the Covenant of Redemption?
Agreed, the central purpose of the design of the cosmos was to destroy evil; and in doing so prevents the "reinfection" of corruption of the recreated cosmos.
I know there was a divine plan among the persons of the Godhead that existed before action was put to the creation plan. Assuming that's what's meant by Covenant of Redemption.
I mean that the properties of things created (matter) is not an invention by God. Those things we deem, of necessity, in science as biology, physics, mathematics etc. We discover them, but they always existed in the knowledge, and wisdom, and purpose of God, before they were placed inside material objects that he created.
Existing in the knowledge and wisdom of God is not the same thing as bringing a concept from theory to material reality. And God being omniscient; I'm sure there were plenty of ideas in His head that.... I suppose one could argue "were always there"? Although I'm not sure the concept matters. After all it's not provable and not possible to guess all of what God thinks about.
As to "dark" and "light" I see your statement as counter to the creation account. Light came forth to dispel the darkness that was over the face of the deep. before the markers of time of day and night. Time markers.
Light coming forth to dispel darkness though would mean darkness preexisted light and I don't see how that's possible; as nothing existed before God was. And light can't expel something that doesn't exist prior to lights existence.
Thus why it makes the most sense that "darkness" comes about as the "reaction" to God's action of creating. Thus why I think the "darkness / light" duality, is not only the commencement of something created; but also the commencement of time. Because darkness and light both existed before God separated them into "day" and "night".
Thus from the initiation of God's action comes a 4 demential cosmos. Of which I would agree; nothing material can exist outside of time.
You are correct in that nothing was taken away from God in the incarnation, but rather humanity was added to the eternal Son. An absolute necessity for humans to be redeemed as he came as a substitute. He had to be of the same kind as those he substituted for. And he had to enter into time, the plan of redemption had to take place in time---that is historically reality, and in history (time).
Interestingly though, Revelation says that Jesus is "the lamb slain from the foundation of the world". (Revelation 13:8)
Obviously the incarnation can't take place outside of the material cosmos. I've always looked at it though, as "time" exists within all that's outside of it. What ever "eternity" constitutes is the "ball" around the "ball" of "time". And God being the nature of the entity that He is can enter "time" at any point He so desires. Thus we see theophanies in the Old Testament; which are not the same thing as incarnation. The theophanies stopped though after the incarnation took place.
We can't because we don't. We are what God created us to be and nothing else is possible.
Provided God doesn't / didn't design us to eventually be able to transverse three dimensional space in material bodies. Look at the Mt. of Transfiguration event. Moses and Elijah "came back" into "three demential space" at the same time Jesus "technically" didn't leave three demential space. Although the disciples did see some form of manifestation of the "union" / "uniting" of heaven and earth.
Apart from the atonement; being incarnated would not instill any desire for the "SON" to "self sever" from the "son". As God is the God of life and not of death. That's what I mean by Jesus would never die outside of his own volition to do so. Death being willfully taken on for the sake of the atonement; being the final enemy to overcome
My suggestion here would be for you to return to why it was that I brought up the seed and seed bearer and keep the response within that framework instead of throwing it into a whole other framework not identified or the reason for doing so not identified. I was not identifying the "seed bearer line" in order to make a claim that that phrase applied to the elect. It does not. I gave it as an interpretive tool to the statement in Gen 6, "the sons of God went into the daughters off men".
And here you are suggesting that what I said made the "seed bearer line" metaphoric, something about Christ and God's righteousness living in the created world. and that I am saying it is indicative of the elect. And the "seed of Christ" being the material body that died and rose again in real world action. None of that is in any way related to why I brought up the lineage of Seth being given in Gen 4 and 5. Nor is my actual purpose in any way related to the previous posts on "darkness", "light" or "time". They are all separate posts dealing with the post being quoted on the topic being discussed in the post being quoted. To jumble them all together like you have as one subject, one category, makes an unintelligible mish mash.
Well first, we'd need to define what purpose the "seed bearer" idea occupies. Jesus tells Nicodemus "You must be born from above." If Spiritual rebirth is the requirement for redemption; what's the point of there being a "seed bearer" and what is the "seed" that bearer is bearing? All humanity, except Jesus conceived by the Holy Spirit; came from Adam. And this included Seth. So the "sons of God" and the "daughters of men" all come from the same "seed".
Thus the only possible understanding of "seed bearer line" ultimately bringing forth Christ, would have to be of a spiritual application. Because the flesh (descendants of Adam) are all the same and of equal standing. People get into this "serpent seed" thing too; and God being the only One who's the giver of life; that doesn't make sense either.
Now Jesus as a biological entity, obviously was capable of producing children. Yet Scripture says that he as the "kernel" went into the ground (John 12:24); as opposed to being the material progenitor of a sinless race. Yet, to be born again is to be born from above. Which was secured through the material body of Christ.
So.... what's the point of the "seed bearer" with the "sons of God" / "daughters of men" verses?
I don't understand the purpose of the "seed bearer line" when all besides Christ, are sinners as descended of Adam. The concept seems pointless in the grand scheme of how redemption is accomplished.
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