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o_mlly · Oct 7, 2025

NxNW said:
Trump's Access Hollywood recording

Nope. Not there. Try again.

GoldenBoy89 · Oct 7, 2025

ThatRobGuy said:
The implication being "mud wrestling is another thing those backwards, under-educated, redneck, conservative hill-folk like to watch"?

No the implication being I’d much rather watch bikini-clad mud wrestling. Lol

ThatRobGuy said:
Is this really about the fact that it's a birthday sporting event instead of a birthday concert? Or does the UFC thing in particular have a little more to do with Dana White's and Joe Rogan's political leanings?

I don’t really care either way. I won’t be tuning in to the Donald Trump birthday celebration.

Are you?

Apple Sky · Oct 7, 2025

Hentenza said:
There are millions of pictures of the earth from space. Take your pick.

iluvatar5150 · Oct 7, 2025

ThatRobGuy said:
I don't think anyone has to pretend they're exactly the same...

Oh?
"Isn't that just splitting hairs over the style of entertainment though?"

ThatRobGuy said:
the same way golf/tennis isn't the same as football/hockey. (the former is obviously a little more low-key, and the latter is obviously more in the realm of "contact sports")

The issue is that people are trying to portray it as one being "classier/fancier -- therefore better" than the other, and it's that latter part that gives some the impression of elitism.

In essence, scoffing at the form of entertainment the blue collar and/or conservative people like as "not worthy of being at the white house" certainly isn't going to win that cohort back over.

You're conflating a bunch of things and it's hard to tell whether you're serious or just being provacative. I agree that some of the elitism surrounding entertainment and the arts needs to die.

However, some appreciation for classiness and decorum should not die and I don't think it's inappropriate to try to keep certain spaces elevated. There is a strong push among the MAGA crowd to not just do away with elitism, but also to lean hard into a deliberate crassness and incivility. I don't think we need to debase ourselves just to protect their fragile egos.

o_mlly · Oct 7, 2025

Belk said:
Anyone who thinks quitting smoking or illegal drugs is easy has no clue what they are talking about.

I quit smoking some time ago. Hardest thing I ever had to do. But I loved my wife and children enough to deny myself this self-destructive habit.

Hentenza · Oct 7, 2025

SabbathBlessings said:
I am not the Judge. Thats going to be up to God. My hope and prayer is everyone will be saved, but I know that is not going to happen, because our Bibles tell us so.

The Bible says

1 John 3:4 Whosoever committeth sin transgresseth also the law: for sin is the transgression of the law.
Jas 2:11 For He who said, "DO NOT COMMIT ADULTERY," also said, "DO NOT MURDER." Now if you do not commit adultery, but you do murder, you have become a transgressor of the law.

The commandments that is being quoted from is the Ten Commandments and God placed them in a unit of Ten Deut4:13 Exo34:28, not nine or eight. They are what sits under His mercy seat Exo 25:21 also revealed in heaven Rev 15:5 Rev 11:19. God promised not to alter His words Psa89:34 Mat5:18 and I am unaware of anyone greater than He to countermand what He said.

Sunday keeping is not a commandment of God, God made the day for works and labors. Exo 20:9 The seventh day Sabbath is a commandment of God, written by God, spoken by God, part of His Testimony that sits under His mercy seat with the other 9 commandments Exo 20:6 Exo 20:8-11. I do not believe God treats the 4th commandment any different than the other commandments in this unit execpt God choose to place His seal on the 4th Exo20:11 because without this commandment, no one would know whose Testimony this is.

Jesus said this, not me, when we keep our traditions, which is what Sunday keeping is, over keeping the commandments of God, which is what Sabbath-keeping is.

I do not think Jesus could condemn this practice more. God wrote His laws in our hearts and minds Heb8:10- His version, not what man edited He warned us would happen Dan 7:25 our heart is far from Him when we are not subject to God's laws Rom8:7-8 because it makes one an enmity to God.

Mar 7:7 AND IN VAIN THEY WORSHIP ME, TEACHING AS DOCTRINES THE COMMANDMENTS OF MEN.'
Mar 7:8 For laying aside the commandment of God, you hold the tradition of men

Mat 15:3 He answered and said to them, "Why do you also transgress the commandment of God because of your tradition?
Mat 15:4 For God commanded, saying, 'HONOR YOUR FATHER AND YOUR MOTHER'; and, 'HE WHO CURSES FATHER OR MOTHER, LET HIM BE PUT TO DEATH.'
Mat 15:5 But you say, 'Whoever says to his father or mother, "Whatever profit you might have received from me is a gift to God"—
Mat 15:6 then he need not honor his father or mother.' Thus you have made the commandment of God of no effect by your tradition.
Mat 15:7 Hypocrites! Well did Isaiah prophesy about you, saying:
Mat 15:8 'THESE PEOPLE DRAW NEAR TO ME WITH THEIR MOUTH, AND HONOR ME WITH THEIR LIPS, BUT THEIR HEART IS FAR FROM ME.
Mat 15:9 AND IN VAIN THEY WORSHIP ME, TEACHING AS DOCTRINES THE COMMANDMENTS OF MEN.

Jesus never taught to take the wide popular path that everyone else is doing.

Mat 7:13 "Enter by the narrow gate; for wide is the gate and broad is the way that leads to destruction, and there are many who go in by it.
Mat 7:14 Because narrow is the gate and difficult is the way which leads to life, and there are few who find it.

You and I can debate this until we are blue in the face and it’s not going to matter what we think or decide. It only matters what God says. God asked us to Remember, man teaches to forget. God wrote 10 commandments, man teaches we only need to keep 8 or 9. God deemed the Sabbath day holy and sanctified it for holy use, man tried to sanctify another day that God didn't. We are saved by faith and I think we need to have room for faith that if God wrote Ten Commandments, it never was reduced to 9, forgetting the one commandment He had the foresight to know everyone would want to forget so said plainly Remember. Not everyone has forgotten, thankfully God has always had a remnant Rev12:17 but I think we need to have faith in the God of the Bible that His Testimonies are sure perfect for converting the soul Psa 19:7

The logical ending of your teaching is that all that don’t worship on Saturday are living in sin so their salvation is in danger. These are the vast majority of professed Christian who worship on the Lord’s day.

You keep posting random verses from the Old Testament which is the old covenant and random verses from the New Testament which is the new covenant that do not require the sabbath keeping or the Jewish law in total for the Christian.

Even when your theology leads you to such a nonsense conclusion you still push forward with the incorrect teaching. Is really mind boggling.

o_mlly · Oct 7, 2025

BCP1928 said:
OK, The only reason poor people ever get sick is because they are lazy and don't eat right. They never get diseases which a regular check up could detect before they became crippling or fatal or very expensive to treat. That's brilliant. See, I told you we should all turn to you for medical advice.

? I never mentioned being poor as a cause. Medicaid is available for those poor people with health issues.

Belk · Oct 7, 2025

o_mlly said:
Nope. You already know what must be done. If you're overweight, smoke, use illegal drugs, regularly eat fast food then it's easy -- stop living those unhealthy lifestyles. For instance, why should everyone pay for your insulin shots because you will not do some pushups, or at least some push-aways instead of super-sizing that meal. Is it just to require everyone (government) to pay for your care if your Illnesses are caused solely by your bad behaviors?

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Anyone who thinks quitting smoking or illegal drugs is easy has no clue what they are talking about.

stevevw · Oct 7, 2025

BCP1928 said:
The cutting tool in a lathe is positioned by leadscrews. In a manual lathe, the ends of the leadscrews are provided with handwheels fitted with graduated collars so the operator can position the tool. A skilled operator with a good machine can maintain +/- 0.0001" A CNC much the same, but in a CNC machine the handwheels are replaced by electric motors controlled by a digital computer which the operator programs.

Ok I understand what you mean. But even in a manual lathe its really not a manual lathe in that an unaided hand with a cutting tool or grinding stone being held and doing the cutting. Where the unaided hand can move and apply varying pressure. That cannot be fixed or set to cut certain lines or symmetry. But is free form and can deviate all over the place.

Either way whether manual lathing or CNC the cutter is being fixed in position or guided by computers to cut certain lines and not deviate. The tech is achieving the precision and not the freehand of the craftsman. The greater the precision the greater the tech involved. Basic lathes or the 50s won't be as tight and streamlined as modern lathes. Which wont be as precision as CNC for precision tooling like Nasa.

Some vases fall into the high precision on par with modern machining such as CNC.

BCP1928 said:
I have no idea what they know. Since they seem to be academics, they probably have some theoretical understanding of the situation, but they will not know as much about it as somebody who actually cuts stone for a living.

There are different ways of knowing lol which is sort of the point of the thread. A metrologist or engineer will see these vases different to an archeologists or stone mason.

There is a well known stone mason on the research team Yousef Awyan. He is the son of Abd'El Hakim Awyan well known for his knowledge of Egyptian heritage and practices. Even he says that this was impossible for the traditional tools and methods. He gives many great insights into Egtptian works.

Hentenza · Oct 7, 2025

Apple Sky said:
You are correct; Computer-Generated Imagery (CGI) was not invented or widely available in 1969, so it could not have been used to create footage of the first moon landing.

The supposed fake footage and photographs from the Apollo missions were supposedly captured using technology such as specialized slow-scan television (SSTV) cameras and film, which were subject to the limitations of the time.

Nope.

BCP1928 · Oct 7, 2025

o_mlly said:
Nope. You already know what must be done. If you're overweight, smoke, use illegal drugs, regularly eat fast food then it's easy -- stop living those unhealthy lifestyles. For instance, why should everyone pay for your insulin shots because you will not do some pushups, or at least some push-aways instead of super-sizing that meal. Is it just to require everyone (government) to pay for your care if your Illnesses are caused solely by your bad behaviors?

Home - Welcome to Obecity, USA
Obesity-related costs surpass $1.5 trillion a year, impacting every aspect of American life. 50% of adults and 26.3% of children ages 5 - 9 have obesity.

OK, The only reason poor people ever get sick is because they are lazy and don't eat right. They never get diseases which a regular check up could detect before they became crippling or fatal or very expensive to treat. That's brilliant. See, I told you we should all turn to you for medical advice.

Hentenza · Oct 7, 2025

Apple Sky said:
What do you mean, all of them ? There was only one.

There are millions of pictures of the earth from space. Take your pick.

NxNW · Oct 7, 2025

o_mlly said:
Can you provide a link? No one else can.

Because of the obscenities, it's best if I don't link it. Google up Trump's Access Hollywood recording. You've heard it or at least read the text.

fhansen · Oct 7, 2025

Brightfame52 said:
Draw means to convert, save

It means to draw, to appeal to, to coax, to prompt, to inform, to grace, to call, to knock on our door. And then, as we respond, we draw near to Him, and the nearer we draw to Him, the nearer yet He draws to us. That's the whole point of our faith; that's man's purpose, that's man's state of justice, his wholeness, his holiness, his complete and uncompromised happiness, to be near to God and to remain there in this life, and then be there eternally as this union is fully consummated in the next.

Amo2 · Oct 7, 2025

Valletta said:
Let's discuss the many translation and versions of the Bible put out by the Catholic Church, and the priests and monks who copied and preserved and preached the Word of God over the centuries.

Let's discuss that in the topic Censorship? Not here, thank you.

Strong in Him · Oct 7, 2025

Apple Sky said:
The supposed fake footage and photographs from the Apollo missions were supposedly captured using technology such as specialized slow-scan television (SSTV) cameras and film, which were subject to the limitations of the time.

And you say that my posts don't make sense!

Either you meant to say, "the fake footage ...." or "the supposed genuine footage ....".
If you say "the supposed fake footage ...." that means it is supposed to be fake, but you don't believe it is. Which, I think, is the opposite of your position.
If the footage was supposedly captured using technology such as SSTV, that means it was, but you don't believe it.

So is your position; "this footage was captured using SSTV - but this technology had limitations and was not reliable", or "this footage was supposed to have been captured using SSTV, but I don't believe that it was"?

Amo2 · Oct 7, 2025

CHAP. XIX.—PRAISE OF THE MARTYR POLYCARP.

This, then, is the account of the blessed Polycarp, who, being the twelfth that was martyred in Smyrna (reckoning those also of Philadelphia), yet occupies a place of his own in the memory of all men, insomuch that he is everywhere spoken of by the heathen themselves. He was not merely an illustrious teacher, but also a pre-eminent martyr, whose martyrdom all desire to imitate, as having been altogether consistent with the Gospel of Christ. For, having through patience overcome the unjust governor, and thus acquired the crown of immortality, he now, with the apostles and all the righteous [in heaven], rejoicingly glorifies God, even the Father, and blesses our Lord Jesus Christ, the Saviour of our souls, the Governor of our bodies, and the Shepherd of the Catholic Church throughout the world.

Alexander Roberts, James Donaldson, and A. Cleveland Coxe, eds., “The Encyclical Epistle of the Church at Smyrna,” in The Apostolic Fathers with Justin Martyr and Irenaeus, vol. 1, The Ante-Nicene Fathers (Buffalo, NY: Christian Literature Company, 1885), 43.

2Ti 4:6 For I am now ready to be offered, and the time of my departure is at hand. 7 I have fought a good fight, I have finished my course, I have kept the faith: 8 Henceforth there is laid up for me a crown of righteousness, which the Lord, the righteous judge, shall give me at that day: and not to me only, but unto all them also that love his appearing.

Paul expected to receive his crown of immortality at Christ’s appearing, not at death. Was this Polycarp greater than the apostle Paul? Or perhaps those who have stated such regarding Polycarp consider that they know what really happens at death, better than Paul did.

Jhn 6:39 And this is the Father's will which hath sent me, that of all which he hath given me I should lose nothing, but should raise it up again at the last day. …………………………
40 And this is the will of him that sent me, that every one which seeth the Son, and believeth on him, may have everlasting life: and I will raise him up at the last day. ………………….
44 No man can come to me, except the Father which hath sent me draw him: and I will raise him up at the last day. ………………….
54 Whoso eateth my flesh, and drinketh my blood, hath eternal life; and I will raise him up at the last day.

According to holy scripture, the dead do not praise or glorify God.

Psa 30:1 A Psalm and Song at the dedication of the house of David. I will extol thee, O LORD; for thou hast lifted me up, and hast not made my foes to rejoice over me. 2 O LORD my God, I cried unto thee, and thou hast healed me. 3 O LORD, thou hast brought up my soul from the grave: thou hast kept me alive, that I should not go down to the pit. 4 Sing unto the LORD, O ye saints of his, and give thanks at the remembrance of his holiness. 5 For his anger endureth but a moment; in his favour is life: weeping may endure for a night, but joy cometh in the morning. 6 And in my prosperity I said, I shall never be moved. 7 LORD, by thy favour thou hast made my mountain to stand strong: thou didst hide thy face, and I was troubled. 8 I cried to thee, O LORD; and unto the LORD I made supplication. 9 What profit is there in my blood, when I go down to the pit? Shall the dust praise thee? shall it declare thy truth? 10 Hear, O LORD, and have mercy upon me: LORD, be thou my helper. 11 Thou hast turned for me my mourning into dancing: thou hast put off my sackcloth, and girded me with gladness; 12 To the end that my glory may sing praise to thee, and not be silent. O LORD my God, I will give thanks unto thee for ever.

Psa 88:1 A Song or Psalm for the sons of Korah, to the chief Musician upon Mahalath Leannoth, Maschil of Heman the Ezrahite. O LORD God of my salvation, I have cried day and night before thee: 2 Let my prayer come before thee: incline thine ear unto my cry; 3 For my soul is full of troubles: and my life draweth nigh unto the grave. 4 I am counted with them that go down into the pit: I am as a man that hath no strength: 5 Free among the dead, like the slain that lie in the grave, whom thou rememberest no more: and they are cut off from thy hand. 6 Thou hast laid me in the lowest pit, in darkness, in the deeps. 7 Thy wrath lieth hard upon me, and thou hast afflicted me with all thy waves. Selah. 8 Thou hast put away mine acquaintance far from me; thou hast made me an abomination unto them: I am shut up, and I cannot come forth. 9 Mine eye mourneth by reason of affliction: LORD, I have called daily upon thee, I have stretched out my hands unto thee. 10 Wilt thou shew wonders to the dead? shall the dead arise and praise thee? Selah. 11 Shall thy lovingkindness be declared in the grave? or thy faithfulness in destruction? 12 Shall thy wonders be known in the dark? and thy righteousness in the land of forgetfulness? 13 But unto thee have I cried, O LORD; and in the morning shall my prayer prevent thee. 14 LORD, why castest thou off my soul? why hidest thou thy face from me? 15 I am afflicted and ready to die from my youth up: while I suffer thy terrors I am distracted. 16 Thy fierce wrath goeth over me; thy terrors have cut me off. 17 They came round about me daily like water; they compassed me about together. 18 Lover and friend hast thou put far from me, and mine acquaintance into darkness.

Psa 115:1 Not unto us, O LORD, not unto us, but unto thy name give glory, for thy mercy, and for thy truth's sake. 2 Wherefore should the heathen say, Where is now their God? 3 But our God is in the heavens: he hath done whatsoever he hath pleased. 4 Their idols are silver and gold, the work of men's hands. 5 They have mouths, but they speak not: eyes have they, but they see not: 6 They have ears, but they hear not: noses have they, but they smell not: 7 They have hands, but they handle not: feet have they, but they walk not: neither speak they through their throat. 8 They that make them are like unto them; so is every one that trusteth in them. 9 O Israel, trust thou in the LORD: he is their help and their shield. 10 O house of Aaron, trust in the LORD: he is their help and their shield. 11 Ye that fear the LORD, trust in the LORD: he is their help and their shield. 12 The LORD hath been mindful of us: he will bless us; he will bless the house of Israel; he will bless the house of Aaron. 13 He will bless them that fear the LORD, both small and great. 14 The LORD shall increase you more and more, you and your children. 15 Ye are blessed of the LORD which made heaven and earth. 16 The heaven, even the heavens, are the LORD'S: but the earth hath he given to the children of men. 17 The dead praise not the LORD, neither any that go down into silence. 18 But we will bless the LORD from this time forth and for evermore. Praise the LORD.

Ecc 9:5 For the living know that they shall die: but the dead know not any thing, neither have they any more a reward; for the memory of them is forgotten. 6 Also their love, and their hatred, and their envy, is now perished; neither have they any more a portion for ever in any thing that is done under the sun. 7 Go thy way, eat thy bread with joy, and drink thy wine with a merry heart; for God now accepteth thy works. 8 Let thy garments be always white; and let thy head lack no ointment. 9 Live joyfully with the wife whom thou lovest all the days of the life of thy vanity, which he hath given thee under the sun, all the days of thy vanity: for that is thy portion in this life, and in thy labour which thou takest under the sun. 10 Whatsoever thy hand findeth to do, do it with thy might; for there is no work, nor device, nor knowledge, nor wisdom, in the grave, whither thou goest.

o_mlly · Oct 7, 2025

BCP1928 said:
Obviously, we should all turn to you for our healthcare advice.

Nope. You already know what must be done. If you're overweight, smoke, use illegal drugs, regularly eat fast food then it's easy -- stop living those unhealthy lifestyles. For instance, why should everyone pay for your insulin shots because you will not do some pushups, or at least some push-aways instead of super-sizing that meal. Is it just to require everyone (government) to pay for your care if your Illnesses are caused solely by your bad behaviors?

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