How are those that are being condemned supposed to react to this? Whose truth and fact are being hated? When there are two opposing views, both parties believe that they are speaking truth and facts.
Thats because Kirk was not speaking about any particular truth should rule. It was the principle of open and free speech itself. That he allowed that freedom to others in prqactice but was not returned that right.
If your talking about personal truths they don't mean fact or first principle truths like say human rights or constitutional rights. Such as the truth principles of freedom to believe, have polical views and associations. Even the right to protest.
How do we determine the truth as opposed to personal truths which are subjective and have no objective way to determine them. I don't know you tell me lol. All I know is that whatever it is, it has to be something outside human personal opinion. Even group opinion because we have a bad track record.
We know these independent truths in democratic and free nations that destinguishes us from other ideas such as Communism, Islam, Marxism or any other ideology. From the Christian truths we at least use to believe in that underpinned our politics.
That depends on if one is on the receiving of Kirk's opinions or not.
But thats exactly what they are, subjective opinions. How is one to know that a word is going to upset a subjective opinion that may be influenced by many factors that may make someone more sensitive to certain words than others.
If this is the basis for truth then we have potentially millions of opinions we need to be careful about before we open our mouths lol. I don't know. Do you have a specific example. But really its more about the idea that there can be multiple truths all competing and equal is the issue I think.
What is behind the idea that personal truths are the most important way to determine what is real.
I don't know about the few faults opinion but of the debates that I have seen, he does allow others people time to speak, without interrupting, before giving his viewpoints. (I wish that he wouldn't speak so fast)
I know and I think he forgets this. Which I think is a presentation problem. But I agree he allows different opinions and asks questions. But he is also good at getting quickly to the point. Because I think he is trying to paint the bigger picture of what is happening. How to think critically.
The Right is famous for their cancel culture but Kirk did allow opposing views.
Yes and I think this is that too and fro, tit for tat politics that happens. In the past there was more unity in the center and the extremes were regarded as out there. Most people generally agreed on the ideas, morals, truth principles such as freedom of opinion and beliefs.
But its gradually become polarised. The political has become the personal. Or is it the personal has become political. Doesn't matter. The extremes have come more into the center on both sides each time ratcheting up to a new level and spreading.
Now we are seeing extremes on both sides in the streets as a result. But I still say that primarily this is a spiritual battle. In becoming the personal it becomes everything including the spiritual.
I believe this is not just a battle of a political ideology or personal truth. But a battle for truth itself. As in Christ. As in how we should order society and the world and reality itself. Either with God or without. Thats what its coming down to. Thats the level it has reached.
Ever hear the song, "Abraham, Martin, and John"? There's something about people who die young that cements their views in the minds of many people.
Yeah I guess. There is something about the (27) club of musos who died at 27 that makes them special. I think there is truth to this and its part of who we are. Martyrs and icons are made so by the society that makes it so.
That Kirk is seen in this way is itself testament to this phenomena. That this is the topic resulting from his death is the manifestation of where the society is at regardless of the right or wrong of what Kirk stood for. This itself is a rare phenomena and significant as far as where a culture is at.
Especially for what I would say is not someone who would come to mind in creating such an outporing or outrage. Maybe someone more related to such a status like Dr King or Diana even. I think in its own way this will be similar as far as culture is concerned.
Maybe and hopefully a time of reflection of where we are at and heading for if we don't unite. Look at whats happening with the rise of antisemetism. This to me is a big red flag for any society to stop in their tracks and think this is not good, this is a sign of an unhealthy society.
In some ways it reminds me of the Tower of Babel where everyone was divided into nations, cultures who are no longer united and fighting with each other over differences.